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Can I switch to ex-spouse's higher survivor benefits if I claim SS at 63 and he dies later?

Hi all, I'm really confused about ex-spouse survivor benefits and need some clarity. I'm turning 64 next year (currently 63) and my ex-husband is 75 (11 years older than me). He waited until 70 to claim his Social Security and gets around $4,900 monthly now. I'm trying to figure out what happens if I start collecting MY retirement benefits early, but then he passes away in a few years. Would I be able to switch to his full survivor benefit amount that he was receiving at 70? Or would my survivor benefits be permanently reduced because I started MY own benefits early? I've heard conflicting things from friends and the SSA website is confusing me even more. Has anyone navigated this situation successfully?

Jeremiah Brown

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This is a great question with a relatively straightforward answer! If you claim your own retirement benefits early (before your FRA), and your ex-spouse passes away later, you CAN still receive his full survivor benefit amount when you reach your Full Retirement Age. Your early filing of YOUR benefits doesn't permanently reduce survivor benefits. However, if you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, then those survivor benefits would be reduced. In your specific situation, you could start your own benefits at 63 (reduced), and if he passes away when you're 68, you could switch to his full $4,900 survivor benefit if you're at or past your FRA at that point. Just make sure you contact SSA immediately after his passing to initiate the switch.

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JacksonHarris

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Thank you SO much for explaining this! I've been stressing about this for months. So just to make sure I understand completely - if I claim my own benefits now at 63 (reduced), and then wait until my Full Retirement Age (which is 66 and 8 months I think) to claim survivor benefits after he passes, I'd get his full $4,900? That would be life-changing compared to what I'd get on my own.

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Royal_GM_Mark

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The previous response has one important error. You CAN'T get the full $4,900 unless you wait until your own FRA to claim survivor benefits. If your ex passes away and you immediately claim survivor benefits before reaching your FRA, they'll be reduced permanently - up to 28.5% if claimed at 60. Here's what you should do: Take your own reduced retirement now if you need the income. If your ex passes away before you reach your FRA (66+8mo), wait until your FRA to switch to survivor benefits to get the full $4,900. If you can't wait financially, you could switch earlier but accept a permanent reduction. Remember: early filing reductions for retirement and survivor benefits are calculated separately. One doesn't affect the other.

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This is EXACTLY what happened to my sister!!! She took her own SS at 62, then her ex died when she was 65. She switched right away to survivor benefits and got WAY less than what he was getting!!! She didn't realize she should've waited until her FRA. Now she's stuck with reduced survivor benefits FOREVER and regrets not waiting those extra months. Listen to this advice!!!

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Chris King

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i went thru this with my ex husband. started my benifits at 63 then he died unexpectidly 2 years later. the social sevurity office told me i could switch to his higher benifits even tho i started mine early. but they reduced it because i wasnt at my full retirment age yet. something about FRA and a reduction formula by month. CALL THE SS OFFICE!!! dont trust what people here say including me! lol

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JacksonHarris

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Thanks for sharing your experience! I've been trying to call SSA for weeks but can't get through. The hold times are ridiculous and I've been disconnected three times after waiting over an hour. Did you have to wait a long time to talk to someone?

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Rachel Clark

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Rachel Clark

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Yes, it definitely worked for me! The agent I spoke with was super helpful and explained all the survivor benefit rules clearly. Made me realize I had been misunderstanding how the reductions work. Much better than trying to figure it out from the website.

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Zachary Hughes

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My aunt is going through this right now! Her ex-husband passed away last year and she's getting like $1200 less than what he was getting because she took survivor benefits at 62. Wish she had waited until her FRA. The reduction is permanent too which really stinks.

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JacksonHarris

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That's exactly what I'm afraid of! Did she try to appeal or anything? I'm wondering if there's any way around the reduction if you have financial hardship.

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Zachary Hughes

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No, there's no appeal process for this. It's just how the rules work. Once you make the choice to take reduced benefits, it's permanent. She talked to 3 different agents hoping for a different answer.

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The WHOLE system is designed to CONFUSE US!!! I spent 20 years working in insurance and STILL couldn't figure out my own SS benefits without calling THREE TIMES and getting THREE DIFFERENT ANSWERS!!! They want us to take benefits early so they pay out LESS over our lifetimes!!! I'm 68 and STILL fighting with them about my ex-spouse benefits calculation. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and get NAMES of who you talk to!!!

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Mia Alvarez

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This is so true. My dad worked for SSA for 30 years and even he says the rules are intentionally complicated. He always tells people to get everything in writing because verbal answers from agents vary so much.

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Jeremiah Brown

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To clarify a few technical points that might help with your decision: 1. For survivor benefits, your Full Retirement Age is slightly different than for regular retirement benefits. For survivors, FRA is 66 and 2 months for someone born in 1961. 2. The reduction for taking survivor benefits early is approximately 0.396% per month before your FRA. So if you took survivor benefits at 63, that's about 38 months early, resulting in roughly a 15% permanent reduction. 3. Ex-spouse survivor benefits work the same as regular spouse survivor benefits as long as your marriage lasted at least 10 years and you haven't remarried before age 60. 4. You need to actually apply for the survivor benefits when the time comes - the switch isn't automatic even if the SSA knows about the death.

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JacksonHarris

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Thank you for these details! My marriage lasted 22 years so that part is fine. I think based on all the feedback here, my best plan is to take my own reduced benefits now since I need the income, but if he passes away, wait until my FRA to switch to survivor benefits to get his full amount. Does that sound right?

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Jeremiah Brown

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Yes, that sounds like the optimal strategy for your situation. Take your own reduced retirement now if needed, then if he passes away, wait until your survivor FRA (66+2mo) to switch to maximum survivor benefits. Just make sure to contact SSA right after his passing to understand your exact options at that time.

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Chris King

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my friend said theres a lump sum death benefit too dont forget to claim that its not much but its something

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Royal_GM_Mark

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One additional consideration: If your own benefit at Full Retirement Age would be more than 50% of your ex-spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), you might want to run the numbers on a different strategy. It might be worth delaying your own retirement claim and taking reduced ex-spouse benefits now (if you're eligible). The math gets complicated, but a good SSA agent can help you compare scenarios. Also, when calculating potential survivor benefits, remember that your ex receiving $4,900/month means he delayed until 70, receiving 132% of his PIA. Survivor benefits are based on that higher amount (including the delayed retirement credits), not his original PIA.

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