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Can I switch from ex-spouse's survivor benefits to my own SS retirement at 70 after starting at FRA?

I'm trying to maximize my Social Security and need some guidance. I'm planning to retire at my full retirement age of 67 next year. My ex-husband passed away last December, and we were married for 22 years before divorcing in 2011. I've been looking at the numbers, and it seems like his benefit amount would be about $2,150/month if I claim survivor benefits based on his record at 67. Meanwhile, if I delay my own retirement benefits until 70, they would increase to around $3,500/month. Would it be possible for me to claim the survivor benefits at 67 based on my ex-husband's record, and then switch to my own higher retirement benefits at 70? Or does Social Security force you to choose one path and stick with it? I've been getting conflicting information from friends and even when I called SSA (couldn't get through to an actual person). Thanks in advance for any help!

Yes, you absolutely can do this! This is actually a smart strategy. You can claim survivor benefits based on your ex-husband's record at your FRA (67) and then switch to your own retirement benefits at 70 when they've reached their maximum value. Since you're waiting until your full retirement age to claim the survivor benefits, you'll get the full survivor benefit amount, and your own retirement benefits will continue to grow with delayed retirement credits until 70. Just make sure when you apply at 67 that you're specifically applying for survivor benefits ONLY, not your retirement benefits. Be very clear about this with SSA.

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Thank you so much for confirming! I was really worried because my neighbor said once you choose a benefit type you're stuck with it forever. When I apply, do I need to specifically tell them I plan to switch to my own benefits at 70, or just apply for survivors now and then contact them again when I turn 70?

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This won't work! They make you take the highest benefit amount available to you when you apply. My sister tried something similar and they automatically gave her the higher amount and said she couldn't switch later. The SSA doesn't let you pick and choose benefits that way - it's an either/or situation.

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That's actually not correct for this specific situation. What you're referring to is the deemed filing rule, but this rule does NOT apply to survivor benefits. You can absolutely claim survivor benefits and later switch to your own retirement benefits (or vice versa). This is one of the few remaining strategic claiming options after the 2015 law changes. Your sister's situation was likely different in some important way.

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I did exactly what you're planning to do. I took my deceased ex-husband's survivor benefits at my FRA (which was 66 in my case) and then switched to my own higher benefit when I turned 70. It worked perfectly and increased my monthly income by almost $900. The key is making it very clear when you apply that you are ONLY applying for widow's benefits and you want to delay your retirement benefit. I recommend getting an appointment at your local SSA office - don't try to do this online or just by phone as it can get confusing. Bring your marriage certificate, divorce decree, and ex's death certificate to the appointment.

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That's so helpful to hear from someone who's successfully done this! I've been trying to get an appointment at my local office but they're scheduled months out. Did you have any trouble getting them to understand what you were doing when you applied?

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my mom tried to do this exact thing last year and the ssa rep she talked to had no idea what she was asking about!!! took her 3 different calls to finally get someone who understood the rules. definitely be persistent if the first person says no.

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This happens more often than you'd think! Not all SSA reps are equally knowledgeable about these somewhat complicated claiming strategies. If someone tells you it's not possible, politely ask to speak with a technical expert or supervisor who specializes in survivor benefits.

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THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE SS SYSTEM!!! Why do we need special "strategies" just to get our benefits? The whole system is designed to confuse people so they claim early and get less money. My cousin lost out on thousands because no one told her she could do what you're planning. The SSA should be required to tell people ALL their options instead of making us figure it out ourselves!!!

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100% agree with you. My parents both just took benefits at 62 because they didn't know any better and no one at SS explained they had options. Now they're stuck with permanently reduced amounts for life.

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Thanks everyone for all this helpful information! I'm feeling much more confident about my plan now. One more question - when I eventually switch to my own benefits at 70, will I need to submit a completely new application, or just notify them that I want to switch?

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You'll need to submit a new application specifically for your retirement benefits. About 3 months before you turn 70, contact SSA and tell them you want to apply for your retirement benefits to begin at age 70. They'll switch you from the survivor benefit to your own retirement benefit. Make sure to follow up if you don't see the change after your 70th birthday.

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Just wondering... what happens if you take your own benefit at 67 and then try to switch to survivor benefits later? Can you do it that way too?

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No, that approach wouldn't be beneficial. If you take your own retirement benefit first, any survivor benefit would be reduced to account for the retirement benefit you're already receiving. You wouldn't get the full amount of both. The strategy the original poster is considering works because survivor benefits have different rules than retirement benefits, allowing for this particular switching strategy.

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make sure u have all ur documents!!! birth certificate, marriage license, divorce papers, death certificate for ex, etc. i forgot my divorce decree and had to reschedule my whole appointment and wait another 6 weeks!!

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Oh that's a great reminder! I'll definitely make a checklist of all the documents I need to bring. Did they require original documents or were copies acceptable?

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they wanted originals of everything! and u might need proof u were married 10+ years for ex-spouse benefits. bring as much as u can

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One other important thing to know - when you're receiving survivor benefits from 67-70, you can still work without any earnings limit penalties. The earnings test doesn't apply after you reach your full retirement age. So if you want to work part-time during those years, your survivor benefits won't be reduced no matter how much you earn.

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That's really good to know! I was planning to do some consulting work in retirement, so it's nice to hear I won't be penalized for that income while on survivor benefits.

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