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Social Security survivor benefits question - will husband's early filing reduce my survivor benefits at FRA?

I'm trying to figure out our Social Security strategy and I'm confused about survivor benefits. My husband filed for his retirement benefits last year at 62 because of some concerning health issues (heart problems running in his family). I'm currently 61 and planning to wait until my full retirement age (67) to claim my own benefits. Here's what I don't understand: If my husband passes away before I reach my FRA, would I receive his REDUCED benefit amount as a survivor, or could I get his FULL Primary Insurance Amount even though he claimed early? His PIA is about $2,650 while mine would be around $2,520 if I claim at 67. If I claim at 62, mine would only be about $1,800. Basically, I want to know if his decision to claim early permanently affects what I might get as a survivor, or if I can still get his full PIA by waiting until I'm 67? The difference isn't huge but every dollar counts in retirement.

Carmen Diaz

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Great question! As a survivor, you would be eligible to receive the higher of: (1) your own retirement benefit, or (2) a survivor benefit based on your husband's record. The good news is that even though your husband claimed early, you can still receive up to 100% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) if you claim survivor benefits at or after your full retirement age. His early claiming decision does NOT permanently reduce what you could receive as a survivor benefit. If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, then you would receive a reduced amount (approximately 71.5% of his PIA if claimed at age 60). You also have flexibility - you could claim survivor benefits first and then switch to your own retirement benefit at age 70 to maximize your own benefit (if your own benefit at 70 would be higher than the survivor benefit).

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thank you so much for that clear explanation! That's a huge relief. So just to confirm - if he passes away and I wait until my FRA at 67, I could get 100% of his PIA ($2,650) even though he claimed at 62? That's really good to know for planning purposes.

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Andre Laurent

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my husband took SS at 62 and passed last year. i got less than his full amount cuz he claimed early. maybe the rules changed? i dunno but thats what happened to me

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Carmen Diaz

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I'm sorry for your loss. The amount you received might have been reduced for a few reasons: 1) If you claimed survivor benefits before reaching your own FRA, or 2) If you were already receiving your own retirement benefit that was higher than the survivor benefit. The rules state that if you wait until your FRA to claim survivor benefits, you're eligible for 100% of what your spouse was receiving OR what they would have received at their FRA (their PIA), whichever is higher.

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Emily Jackson

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This was really helpful for me too - I'm in a similar boat. My husband is thinking about claiming early but I've been worried about what that means if he passes before me. Glad to know I have options!

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Liam Mendez

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The SSA rules for widows are so confusing...I spent hours on their website trying to figure this out. Had a friend who thought she'd get her husband's full amount but ended up with much less. Something about her own benefit offsetting it? Make sure you talk to someone at SSA directly before making any decisions.

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Yuki Tanaka

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That's concerning... I wonder if there's some exception I don't know about. Did your friend claim before her full retirement age? Or was she already getting her own benefit?

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Liam Mendez

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I think she was already getting her own benefits. The whole system is just so complicated! She ended up getting something called a partial survivor benefit because her own benefit was pretty high too.

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Sophia Nguyen

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I went through this exact situation last year after my husband passed. I was trying to call Social Security for weeks! Always busy signals or 2+ hour holds only to get disconnected. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a Social Security agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed that I could get my husband's full PIA amount even though he claimed early, as long as I waited until my full retirement age to claim survivor benefits. They also explained I could take reduced survivor benefits earlier and then switch to my own retirement benefit later if mine would be higher. Having that conversation directly with SSA gave me peace of mind.

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Yuki Tanaka

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I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing that resource - I've been trying to get through to SSA for a different question and keep hitting the same wall of long hold times. I'll check out that service. And I'm relieved to hear they confirmed the same information about survivor benefits!

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One thing to consider in your planning: look at the exact amounts carefully. Since your husband's PIA ($2,650) is only slightly higher than what your own benefit would be at FRA ($2,520), you might actually come out ahead by: 1. Taking survivor benefits at your FRA if he passes 2. THEN switching to your own benefit at age 70 if your benefit with delayed retirement credits would exceed the survivor benefit At age 70, your own benefit would be 124% of your PIA, which works out to about $3,125 - significantly higher than the survivor benefit would be. This strategy is called "restricted application for survivor benefits" and it still works even after the 2015 law changes that eliminated it for most spousal benefits.

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TERRIBLE ADVICE! Restricted application doesn't work anymore!! The government took that away years ago! My financial advisor told me Obama eliminated that in 2015 so stop spreading WRONG information!!!

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Emily Jackson

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This thread has been so useful. I had no idea there were so many options with survivor benefits. Has anyone used a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning? Worth it?

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I feel much better knowing that my husband's early claiming won't permanently reduce what I might receive as a survivor benefit if I wait until my FRA. I'm also intrigued by the strategy of possibly taking survivor benefits at FRA and then switching to my own benefit at 70 if it would be higher with the delayed retirement credits. I've been trying to call SSA to confirm all this for my specific situation but haven't been able to get through. I'll try that Claimyr service someone mentioned. It's such a relief to understand this better - these decisions affect the rest of our lives and it's so hard to find clear information sometimes.

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