Social Security suddenly combined my SSI and survivor benefits into retirement - didn't apply for this!
I've been getting SSI disability and survivor benefits from my ex-husband for the past 2 years. Everything was normal until January 1st when suddenly all my benefits got switched to one single "retirement account" payment. I'm confused and worried! I never applied for retirement benefits and I'm not even retirement age yet (only 57). I didn't work enough quarters to qualify for SS retirement on my own - that's why I originally got SSI after my accident. When I called, the wait time was 3+ hours and I got disconnected. Has anyone had their benefits suddenly recategorized like this? Will my payment amount change? I'm afraid they'll realize the mistake and I'll have no income for months while they fix it.
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Mia Roberts
This sounds like a potential administrative error. SSI and survivor benefits are completely different programs with different funding sources. They don't typically get "combined" into retirement benefits, especially if you're not at retirement age. Was there any notice sent to you before this happened? Did you check your mySocialSecurity account to see if there are any messages or status updates?
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Grace Lee
•I got no notice at all before this happened! Just logged into my account in January and saw everything had changed. My mySocialSecurity account shows I'm now receiving "retirement" but doesn't explain why. I'm terrified they'll cut me off completely if I point out their mistake. The payment amount is about $175 less than what I was getting combined before.
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The Boss
did u turn 57 recently? sometimez they automatic switch people at certain ages. happened to my cousins wife too but she got more money not less
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Grace Lee
•Yes, I just turned 57 in December. But I thought retirement age was at least 62? I don't understand why they'd switch me automatically without sending any notice. And I'm definitely getting LESS money now, not more.
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Evan Kalinowski
This is likely related to a specific Social Security rule about survivor benefits. If you were receiving disability-based SSI plus survivor benefits, there are certain age milestones where benefits can automatically convert. At 57, you wouldn't convert to standard retirement benefits (those begin at 62 earliest), but there are special provisions for survivors and disabled individuals. That said, the SSA should absolutely have notified you before making this change, and any change that results in a reduction of benefits should have a formal notice with appeal rights. You need to speak directly with a Social Security representative to understand exactly what happened. Looking at your situation, the most likely explanation is that you've been converted to disabled widow(er) benefits, which can happen at age 50 or older if you're disabled. These are based on your ex-husband's record rather than SSI, which could explain the benefit change.
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Grace Lee
•Thank you so much for explaining this! The disabled widow benefit makes so much more sense. I've been trying to get through to SSA for days but can't get past the endless hold times. Do you know if I can still get SSI if I'm on the disabled widow benefit? That $175 difference really impacts my budget.
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Victoria Charity
The SAME EXACT THING happened to my sister last year!!! SS is TERRIBLE about explaining these changes!!! She spent WEEKS trying to get someone on the phone and they kept disconnecting her. When she finally got through they told her it was some kind of "automatic conversion" thing but couldn't even explain why her payment went down too!!! The whole system is rigged!!!
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Jasmine Quinn
•Automatic conversion is a real thing, but they're supposed to send notices explaining the change. You should have received something in the mail with an explanation and appeal rights information. Did you check if your address is updated in their system? Sometimes these important notices get lost if they have old contact info.
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Jasmine Quinn
I've been through something very similar. This sounds like an automatic conversion to disabled widow's benefits. Here's what likely happened: 1. At age 50+ (you're 57), disabled former spouses can receive benefits from their ex's record 2. This can sometimes replace SSI if the benefit amount is higher 3. However, if the conversion results in LESS money overall, you should be eligible for partial SSI to make up the difference The $175 reduction suggests they didn't properly calculate the SSI supplement you might still be entitled to. You absolutely need to speak with SSA directly to fix this.
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Grace Lee
•That makes perfect sense - it explains why my benefits changed! I'll definitely ask about the SSI supplement when I finally reach someone. I'm so grateful for this explanation.
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Oscar Murphy
After trying for days to reach someone at SSA about a similar issue, I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a representative in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I got through, the agent explained that any time there's an automatic conversion that results in a payment reduction, you have appeal rights. Make sure to ask specifically about continuing to receive partial SSI to supplement the widow's benefits to maintain your previous payment level. Also ask them to explain why you weren't notified about this change beforehand.
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Grace Lee
•Thank you! I've been so frustrated with the endless hold times. I'll check out that service - at this point I'm desperate to talk to someone who can explain what happened and if I can get that $175 back somehow. I'll definitely ask about partial SSI and appeal rights.
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Nora Bennett
I'm confused about something. You said survivors benefits from ex husband but did he pass away? Because survivors benefits only come if the person died. If he's still alive and you were getting benefits based on his record, those would be spousal benefits not survivors. Might help figure out what happened if we know which one it actually was?
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Grace Lee
•Yes, my ex-husband passed away 3 years ago. We were married for 12 years before divorcing, and I started receiving the survivor benefits about a year after he died. Sorry for not being clearer!
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Nora Bennett
•Ok that makes sense! Then @profile2 is probably right about the disabled widow benefit conversion. When you call SSA make sure to use those exact words "disabled widow benefits" so they know exactly what you're talking about. And definitely mention the reduction in benefits! You might be entitled to continuing partial SSI.
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Jasmine Quinn
I'm curious - did you get a letter saying you were eligible for Medicare? Sometimes when these conversions happen, it also triggers Medicare eligibility, which could be a silver lining here.
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Grace Lee
•Now that you mention it, yes! I did get a Medicare letter a few weeks ago but I set it aside because I thought it was a mistake. I didn't realize it could be connected to this benefit change. I'll definitely look at that letter again!
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Mia Roberts
Please update us after you speak with SSA! I'd like to know what happened in your case as it might help others in similar situations. The disabled widow benefit conversion makes the most sense, but the lack of notice and reduction in benefits is concerning. Document everything during your call - representative's name, date/time, and what they tell you about the conversion and your options moving forward.
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Grace Lee
•I will definitely post an update! I'm going to try that Claimyr service tomorrow to get through to a representative. I've written down all my questions based on everyone's helpful advice here. Thank you all so much for helping me understand what's happening with my benefits!
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The Boss
my mom got switched from SSI to disabled widoes benefits and got EXTRA money but also got medicare too. maybe check if u got medicare now cuz that worth something too even if money went down a little
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Grace Lee
•Yes, someone else mentioned Medicare too! I'm going to look at that letter I got. Maybe the Medicare will help make up for the lower cash benefit. I still need to understand why this all happened with no warning though.
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