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Social Security child benefits going to non-custodial parent - can I change representative payee as custodial mom?

I'm really confused about who should be receiving my kids' Social Security benefits. My ex-husband started collecting Social Security disability last year and our three children (ages 8, 11, and 13) qualified for auxiliary benefits on his record. The problem is, HE is receiving these payments as their representative payee even though I have full physical custody of the kids and they live with me 100% of the time.I've been told different things by different people. Some say only the custodial parent can be the payee, but others say whoever applies first gets to be the payee. My ex barely contributes to their expenses and I'm struggling to make ends meet while he's getting about $1,850 monthly for the kids and not sharing it.Does anyone know the actual rules on this? Can I request to become the payee since I'm the custodial parent? I tried calling SSA but couldn't get through to a real person after waiting 2+ hours.

As a representative payee consultant, I can confirm you absolutely CAN and SHOULD request to become the representative payee. While survivor benefits must go to the custodial parent, with disability/retirement auxiliary benefits, SSA has more discretion in choosing the payee. However, they strongly prefer the custodial parent because the funds are intended to help support the children's day-to-day needs.You'll need to visit your local field office and file form SSA-11 (Request to be Selected as Payee). Bring proof of custody (court documents), proof the children live with you (school records, medical records with your address), and explain why changing the payee arrangement is in the children's best interest. The SSA will investigate and likely contact your ex-husband as part of the process.

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Thank you so much! This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll download the SSA-11 form tonight. Do you know roughly how long this investigation process usually takes? The kids need new winter clothes and school supplies, and I'm really struggling financially.

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my ex did SAME THING!!! took me 3 months to get it switched to me but i finally did. they dont just automatically give it to custody parent, you gotta FIGHT for it. bring ALL your custody paperwork and proof kids live with u!

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3 months?! That's so long to wait when you're struggling. Did they make your ex pay back any of the money he received during those 3 months?

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nope they didnt make him pay anything back to me. they just switched it going forward. so frustrating but at least i get it now

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The rules for auxiliary benefits (when the wage earner is still alive) are different from survivor benefits. For auxiliary benefits, SSA looks at who would best serve the interests of the child, with a strong preference for the custodial parent, but it's not automatic.I'd recommend documenting all the children's expenses you're covering (housing, food, clothing, school needs, medical) to demonstrate you're providing their daily care. Also document any instances where your ex has failed to use the benefits for the children's needs.When you file the SSA-11, request an in-person interview and explain the situation clearly. Bring a detailed budget showing how you'll use the benefits.

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Your situation sounds EXACTLY like what I dealt with in 2021!! My ex got SSDI and was getting almost $2300 for our 4 kids even though they lived with me. He kept

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Definitely legit. It's just a service that helps you get through the phone system faster. I was skeptical too but was desperate after trying for weeks to reach someone. They don't handle any of your personal SS info - just help connect the call.

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I just wanted to point out that SSI and auxiliary benefits are completely different things. Some of the advice here seems to be mixing them up. Your kids are getting auxiliary benefits (sometimes called dependent benefits) based on your ex-husband's record, not SSI which is needs-based.The good news is that for auxiliary benefits, SSA actually DOES prefer the custodial parent as payee, but they don't automatically know who has custody unless you tell them. They probably made your ex the payee because he was the one who applied for the benefits.Also, be aware that your ex may claim he's using the money for things like

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You're right - these are definitely auxiliary dependent benefits on my ex's record, not SSI. He did apply first without even telling me the kids were eligible. He's definitely not saving it for college... he bought himself a new truck last month while telling me he couldn't help with the kids' dental work. I'll make that detailed list of expenses - great idea!

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just wundering does anyone know if this effects the amount of child support he has to pay? my ex is saying if he starts getting SS for our kid then his child support should be lower by that amount

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That's actually a separate issue that varies by state. In many states, Social Security auxiliary benefits paid for a child can be credited against child support obligations. You should check with your family court or attorney about your specific state's rules. This wouldn't change who should be the representative payee though.

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I know this isnt exactly what you asked but my sister had this problem and she ended up having to go back to family court to get the child support order modified because her ex was getting the kids SS benefits and still paying the same child support, but then he took her to court saying he should pay less support since kids were getting benefits. Judge ordered him to pay the difference between original support and the benefits instead. Just something to think about might happen after you get the benefits switched.

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To give you an update on your timeline question - the investigation process typically takes 30-90 days. During this time, SSA will contact both you and your ex to gather information. They may also contact other sources like schools or doctors to verify living arrangements.Since you mentioned urgency with winter clothes and school supplies, be sure to emphasize this when you file your SSA-11. In some cases where there's immediate need, SSA can expedite the process or make a temporary payee determination.Also, be prepared that your ex might fight this change. If he does, it could extend the timeline. Document any evidence that the current funds aren't being used for the children's benefit, as this will strengthen your case substantially.

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Thank you for this timeline info. I'm going to try to get an appointment at the local office this week. My ex will definitely fight it - he's already told me he's

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I'm sorry your message got cut off but I can imagine what you were going to say about your ex fighting it. Document everything you can - text messages where he refuses to help with expenses, receipts showing what you're paying for the kids, school enrollment forms with your address, medical appointments you've taken them to. The more evidence you have that you're the one actually caring for and supporting the children day-to-day, the stronger your case will be. Don't let his threats discourage you - those benefits are meant to help support YOUR kids who live with YOU.

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I went through something very similar last year. My ex was getting disability benefits and automatically became the payee for our kids' auxiliary benefits even though they live with me full-time. What really helped my case was keeping detailed records of everything - not just receipts for expenses, but also screenshots of his social media posts showing expensive purchases while claiming he couldn't help with the kids' needs. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: make sure to ask SSA about getting retroactive benefits from the date you first requested the payee change. In my case, they were able to redirect some of the payments that had been sent to my ex during the investigation period. It's not guaranteed, but it's worth asking about, especially since you mentioned struggling financially. Also, don't be surprised if your ex tries to claim he's been "saving" the money for the kids' future. SSA sees through this excuse pretty quickly when you can show proof that you're covering all their current living expenses. The benefits are meant to help with their day-to-day needs, not to sit in someone else's savings account. Good luck with your SSA-11 filing - you're doing the right thing for your kids!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about asking for retroactive benefits during the investigation period - that could make a huge difference. I've been keeping receipts for everything but the social media documentation is a great idea too. My ex posts about his new purchases all the time while telling me he can't help with school fees. I'll screenshot those posts before I file the SSA-11. It's encouraging to hear from someone who went through the same situation and came out successful. Did you end up needing a lawyer or were you able to handle everything directly with SSA?

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! My ex started receiving SSDI benefits and somehow became the representative payee for our two kids' auxiliary benefits even though they live with me full-time. I had no idea this was even happening until I saw him posting about expensive purchases on social media while constantly telling me he couldn't help with their school expenses. Reading through these comments has been incredibly helpful - I didn't know about the SSA-11 form or that I could request to become the payee as the custodial parent. I thought once someone was designated as the payee, that was it. Now I understand I need to gather all my documentation showing the kids live with me and that I'm covering all their daily expenses. One question for those who have been through this process - did you need to provide proof that the current payee isn't using the funds appropriately for the children, or is it enough to just show that you're the custodial parent who should be receiving them? I'm worried about creating more conflict with my ex, but these benefits could really help with rent and groceries for the kids. Thank you to everyone sharing their experiences - it's given me hope that I can actually change this situation!

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Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds frustratingly familiar to what many of us have dealt with. To answer your question - while having proof that the current payee isn't using funds appropriately for the children definitely strengthens your case, it's not strictly required. The fact that you're the custodial parent providing day-to-day care is often sufficient grounds for SSA to make the change. That said, documenting everything you can will only help your case. Keep receipts for housing, food, clothing, school supplies, medical expenses - anything that shows you're the one actually supporting the kids. If your ex is posting about expensive purchases while claiming he can't help with school expenses, definitely screenshot those as supporting evidence. Don't worry too much about creating conflict - you're advocating for your children's needs, and those benefits are meant to help support them where they actually live. The SSA-11 form process is designed exactly for situations like yours. Good luck, and keep us posted on how it goes!

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I'm going through something very similar and wanted to share what I've learned so far. My ex became the representative payee for our kids' Social Security benefits even though they live with me full-time, and I had no idea I could change this until recently. What's been really helpful is documenting EVERYTHING - not just the big expenses like rent and groceries, but also the smaller daily costs that add up: school lunch money, gas for driving them to activities, co-pays for doctor visits, even things like haircuts and new shoes when they outgrow their old ones. I started keeping a detailed log with dates and amounts, which really shows the reality of who's actually supporting these kids day-to-day. One thing that surprised me during my research is that SSA doesn't automatically monitor how representative payees are using the funds unless someone reports a problem. So your ex could theoretically be using that money for whatever he wants without any oversight. That's why the SSA-11 form process exists - to ensure the money is going to whoever can best serve the children's interests. I haven't filed my SSA-11 yet but plan to do it next week. Reading everyone's experiences here has given me the confidence that this is absolutely the right thing to do for my kids. Those benefits should be helping with their actual living expenses, not sitting in someone else's account or funding their parent's lifestyle. Keep fighting for what's right - our kids deserve to have these benefits used for their intended purpose!

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This is such great advice about documenting everything! I never thought about keeping track of those smaller daily expenses, but you're absolutely right - they really add up and show the reality of who's actually caring for the kids. I'm going to start a detailed log like you suggested before I file my SSA-11 form. It's shocking that there's so little oversight on how representative payees use the funds. My situation is similar - my ex has been receiving benefits for my kids who live with me full-time, and I had no idea this was even happening until I started researching after seeing him make expensive purchases while telling me he couldn't help with school costs. Thank you for sharing your research and experience. It's encouraging to see so many people in similar situations supporting each other and sharing practical advice. Good luck with filing your SSA-11 next week - I hope the process goes smoothly for you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

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I'm new to this situation but unfortunately dealing with something very similar. My ex started getting SSDI last month and I just found out he's automatically became the representative payee for our twin daughters' benefits even though they've lived with me exclusively for over two years. I had no clue this was even possible! Reading through everyone's experiences here has been both eye-opening and frustrating. It sounds like this happens way more often than it should. I'm definitely going to file the SSA-11 form, but I'm worried about the timeline since I'm already behind on some bills and could really use those benefits to help with the girls' expenses. One question - has anyone had success getting an emergency or expedited review? My ex just bought a motorcycle last week while telling me he can't contribute to daycare costs, and I'm wondering if evidence like that might help speed up the process. The girls need new car seats and winter gear, and I'm struggling to cover everything on my own. Thank you all for sharing your stories and advice - it gives me hope that I can actually fix this situation for my daughters!

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Welcome to the community, and I'm sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! Your case sounds particularly urgent given your immediate needs for car seats and winter gear. While I haven't personally been through an expedited review, I've seen others mention that SSA can sometimes prioritize cases where there's clear evidence of immediate need and misuse of funds. That motorcycle purchase while refusing daycare contributions could definitely be compelling evidence - make sure to screenshot or document that along with any text messages where he refuses to help with the girls' expenses. When you file your SSA-11, emphasize the urgent safety needs (car seats) and seasonal necessities (winter gear) in your written statement. Some people have had success calling ahead to explain the urgency before their appointment, though getting through by phone can be challenging. Also consider reaching out to local social services or churches in the meantime - many have emergency assistance programs for families with young children who need car seats or winter clothing. It's not a permanent solution, but it might help bridge the gap while SSA processes your request. Keep documenting everything and don't give up - those benefits are meant to help support your daughters where they actually live. Good luck with your SSA-11 filing!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this - it's unfortunately more common than it should be. As someone who went through a similar battle last year, I want to emphasize that you absolutely have the right to request becoming the representative payee as the custodial parent. A few key things that helped in my case: First, gather every piece of documentation showing the kids live with you full-time - school enrollment records, medical records with your address, any custody agreements. Second, create a detailed monthly budget showing exactly how you'll use the benefits for housing, food, clothing, and other necessities. Third, document any evidence that your ex isn't using the funds appropriately for the children. When I filed my SSA-11, I also included a letter explaining the financial hardship the current arrangement was causing and how it was affecting the children's wellbeing. The investigator told me later that this personal statement really helped them understand the urgency of the situation. One practical tip - if you're having trouble getting through to SSA by phone, try calling right when they open at 7am or during lunch hours when call volume is typically lower. You can also visit your local field office in person, which is often more effective than trying to handle everything over the phone. Don't let your ex intimidate you about fighting this. Those benefits belong to your children, and they should be going to whoever is actually caring for them day-to-day. You've got this!

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This is such comprehensive and encouraging advice! I especially appreciate the tip about calling SSA right when they open at 7am - I've been trying to reach them during regular business hours with no luck. The idea of including a personal statement with the SSA-11 form explaining how this situation affects the children's wellbeing is really smart too. I'm already starting to gather all the documentation you mentioned - school records, medical records, custody papers. It's actually helpful to have a clear checklist of what I need to prepare before filing. The monthly budget showing how I'll use the benefits is something I hadn't thought of but makes perfect sense from SSA's perspective. Your point about not letting my ex intimidate me really resonates. I've been hesitating partly because I know he'll be angry about this, but you're absolutely right - these benefits belong to my children and should go to whoever is actually providing their daily care. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice - it gives me confidence to move forward with this process!

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now and wanted to add something that might be helpful - when you file your SSA-11 form, ask specifically about getting a "payee accounting" from your ex. SSA can require current payees to provide detailed records of how they've been spending the benefits money. In my case, when SSA requested this accounting from my ex, he couldn't provide adequate documentation showing the money was being used for our kids' needs. This actually strengthened my case significantly because it demonstrated he wasn't properly managing the funds for their benefit. Also, I learned that if there's a significant change in living arrangements (like kids moving to live with the other parent full-time), SSA is supposed to review the payee designation automatically, but this often doesn't happen unless someone specifically requests it. So don't feel bad that this wasn't caught earlier - the system isn't perfect and relies on parents advocating for their children. One more thing - document any communications where your ex acknowledges that the kids live with you full-time. Text messages, emails, even social media posts can serve as evidence of the living arrangement. This helped establish my case without needing to rely solely on formal custody documents. You're absolutely doing the right thing by pursuing this. Those benefits are meant to help with your children's daily living expenses, and they should be going to whoever is actually providing that care. Stay strong and don't give up!

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This is incredibly helpful information, thank you! I had no idea I could request a "payee accounting" from my ex - that could be a game-changer in my case since I know he's been using the money for his own expenses rather than the kids' needs. The fact that your ex couldn't provide adequate documentation really shows how important it is to keep detailed records. Your point about documenting communications where he acknowledges the kids live with me is brilliant. I actually have several text message threads where he's complained about not being able to see them because they're "always at my house" and references to me handling all their school and medical appointments. I never thought to save these as evidence, but they clearly establish the living arrangement. The information about SSA being supposed to automatically review payee designations when living arrangements change is both helpful and frustrating. It makes me wonder how many other custodial parents are dealing with this same issue without realizing they can do something about it. I'm definitely going to mention this when I file my SSA-11 and ask why this review didn't happen automatically when my custody situation was established. Thank you for sharing your experience and these practical tips. It's encouraging to hear from someone who successfully navigated this process and got the payee designation changed. Your advice gives me confidence that I can build a strong case for my kids!

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I'm new to this community and unfortunately finding myself in a very similar situation. My ex recently started receiving SSDI benefits and somehow became the representative payee for our son's auxiliary benefits, even though my son has lived with me full-time for the past 18 months under our custody agreement. Reading through all these comments has been both enlightening and infuriating - it's shocking how common this problem is! I had no idea that whoever applies first often becomes the payee by default, regardless of custody arrangements. My ex never even told me that our son was eligible for these benefits. The most frustrating part is that I've been covering all of my son's expenses - housing, food, clothing, medical co-pays, school supplies, extracurricular activities - while struggling financially as a single parent. Meanwhile, my ex has been receiving what I now understand is around $800-900 monthly in benefits that should be helping with these costs. After reading everyone's advice, I'm planning to file the SSA-11 form this week. I've already started gathering documentation - custody papers, school enrollment records, medical appointment records, and receipts for all the expenses I've been covering. I also have text messages where my ex has acknowledged that our son lives with me and that I handle all his daily needs. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences and practical advice. It gives me hope that I can actually change this situation and get the benefits redirected to where they can actually help support my son. I'll keep you all updated on how the process goes!

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Welcome to the community! Your situation is unfortunately all too familiar to many of us here. It's really frustrating that you had to find out about these benefits after the fact, but the good news is that you absolutely have the right to request becoming the representative payee since you're the custodial parent providing all the day-to-day care. It sounds like you're already well-prepared with documentation, which is great. One thing I'd suggest adding to your evidence is a detailed monthly budget showing exactly what you spend on your son's needs - housing portion, groceries, clothing, medical expenses, school costs, etc. This helps SSA see that you're already fulfilling the role the benefits are intended to support. Also, when you file your SSA-11, consider including a brief written statement explaining how the current arrangement affects your son's wellbeing and your ability to provide for him. The more you can show that changing the payee designation is in your child's best interest, the stronger your case will be. Don't be discouraged if your ex pushes back on this - it's your right as the custodial parent to ensure these benefits are being used to support your son where he actually lives. Those text messages acknowledging the living arrangement will be valuable evidence. Keep us posted on how it goes, and feel free to ask if you have any questions during the process!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone who works with families navigating Social Security issues, I can tell you that your case is unfortunately very common, but absolutely fixable. The key thing to understand is that auxiliary benefits (what your kids receive based on your ex's SSDI record) are meant to help support the children where they actually live and receive care. SSA does have a strong preference for custodial parents to be the representative payee, but as others have mentioned, they don't automatically know custody arrangements unless informed. When you file your SSA-11 form, I'd recommend requesting an in-person interview at your local field office rather than trying to handle this over the phone. Bring everything - custody documents, school records, medical records with your address, receipts showing you're covering their expenses, and any communications from your ex acknowledging the kids live with you. Also document the financial impact this is having on the children. If they're going without necessities while their benefits are going elsewhere, that's exactly what SSA needs to see. The $1,850 monthly should be helping with rent, groceries, clothing, and other needs for kids who live with you 100% of the time. One more tip - if your ex tries to claim he's "saving" the money for the kids' future, know that SSA typically doesn't accept this argument when current needs aren't being met. Benefits are meant for present support, not long-term savings. Stay strong and advocate for your children - you're absolutely doing the right thing!

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This is such valuable professional insight, thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain how auxiliary benefits are supposed to work and confirming that this situation can be fixed. Your point about requesting an in-person interview rather than trying to handle everything over the phone is excellent advice - I've been dreading trying to explain this complex situation during a phone call where I might get cut off or misunderstood. The tip about documenting the financial impact on the children is really important too. You're absolutely right that $1,850 monthly should be helping with our rent, groceries, and all their daily needs. Instead, I'm struggling to cover everything on my own while that money goes elsewhere. It's reassuring to know that SSA won't accept the "saving for their future" excuse when current needs aren't being met - my kids need winter clothes and school supplies now, not theoretical college savings. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with the SSA-11 form after reading your professional perspective. Having someone who works with these issues confirm that I have a strong case gives me the motivation to push through what I know will be a difficult process. Thank you for the encouragement and practical guidance!

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I'm really sorry you're going through this - it's such a common but frustrating situation that shouldn't happen. As someone who just went through this process successfully, I wanted to share a few things that really helped my case. First, when you file your SSA-11, make sure to emphasize the URGENCY of your situation. You mentioned struggling to make ends meet while your ex gets $1,850 monthly - that's a significant amount that should be helping with rent, utilities, food, and other necessities for kids who live with you full-time. SSA needs to understand the immediate financial impact this is having on the children's wellbeing. Second, create a simple timeline showing when your custody arrangement was established versus when your ex became the payee. This helps demonstrate that SSA made the payee decision without full knowledge of the living situation. In my case, this timeline really helped the investigator understand why the change was necessary. Also, don't underestimate the power of school records as evidence. Teachers, counselors, and administrators can provide statements confirming where the kids actually live and who handles their day-to-day needs. This third-party verification carries a lot of weight with SSA. One last thing - be prepared for your ex to potentially claim he needs time to "transition" the benefits or that he's been saving money for the kids. SSA sees through these delay tactics, especially when you can show you're covering all current expenses. Stay firm that this needs to be resolved quickly. You're absolutely doing the right thing for your children. Those benefits are meant to help support them where they actually live and receive care. Don't give up!

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This timeline idea is brilliant - I never thought about creating a visual representation showing when custody was established versus when the payee designation happened! That really would help demonstrate that SSA didn't have the full picture when they made their decision. Your point about getting third-party verification from school staff is also excellent. My kids' teachers and the school nurse all know me as the primary contact and the one who handles everything from pick-ups to medical emergencies. Having them provide statements would definitely strengthen my case beyond just the official paperwork. I'm definitely prepared for my ex to try delay tactics - he's already hinted that he might claim he's been "managing" the money responsibly. But you're right that when I can show receipts for rent, groceries, medical co-pays, school supplies, and everything else I've been covering while he gets $1,850 monthly, his arguments won't hold much weight. Thank you for sharing these specific strategies from your successful experience. It helps so much to hear from someone who not only went through this process but came out with a positive outcome. I'm feeling more confident about building a strong case that emphasizes both the urgency and the clear evidence that I'm the appropriate payee. Your encouragement means a lot!

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I just wanted to add some encouragement as someone who successfully changed from being in your exact situation. I was the custodial parent of two kids whose non-custodial father was receiving their auxiliary benefits while contributing nothing to their daily expenses. The process took about 2 months from filing SSA-11 to getting the benefits switched, but it was absolutely worth it. What really helped was keeping a detailed expense journal for about 3 weeks before filing - I tracked every single thing I spent on the kids, from groceries to gas for school pickup to doctor copays. This created a clear picture of who was actually supporting them financially. Also, don't be afraid to be very direct in your written statement about the financial hardship. I wrote something like "These benefits totaling $X per month should be helping with my children's rent, food, and clothing costs, but instead I'm struggling to afford their basic needs while their father uses this money for his own purposes." SSA responded much better to specific, concrete language than vague complaints. One practical tip: if you have trouble getting an appointment at your local office, try calling different field offices in your area. Some have better availability than others, and this is too important to wait weeks for an appointment. Good luck - you're going to win this!

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Thank you so much for sharing your success story and these practical tips! Your idea about keeping a detailed expense journal for a few weeks before filing is really smart - it would create concrete evidence of exactly what I'm spending on the kids' daily needs. I'm going to start tracking everything immediately, from housing costs to school lunches to medical expenses. I also appreciate your advice about being very direct and specific in the written statement rather than being vague. Your example language is perfect - it clearly shows the financial impact and makes it obvious that the benefits should be going to whoever is actually supporting the children. That kind of concrete, factual approach seems much more effective than emotional appeals. The tip about calling different field offices for appointment availability is brilliant too. I hadn't thought about checking multiple locations, but you're absolutely right that this is too important to wait weeks for an appointment. I'm going to start calling around tomorrow. It's so encouraging to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation and came out successful after 2 months. That gives me hope that this is definitely achievable if I prepare properly and stay persistent. Thank you for the encouragement and confidence boost - I really needed to hear that I'm going to win this!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone who just went through a very similar experience, I want you to know that you absolutely have the right to become the representative payee as the custodial parent. When I was in your shoes, what really helped was creating a comprehensive packet for my SSA-11 filing that included: detailed custody documentation, school enrollment records showing my address, medical records from appointments I took the kids to, and most importantly - a month-by-month expense breakdown showing exactly what I was spending on housing, food, clothing, and other necessities for the children. One thing I wish I'd known earlier is that you can request an expedited review if you can demonstrate immediate financial hardship affecting the children's wellbeing. Since you mentioned struggling with basic needs like winter clothes while your ex receives $1,850 monthly, definitely emphasize this urgency in your application. Also, document any evidence of your ex using the benefits inappropriately - social media posts about expensive purchases, text messages where he refuses to help with school costs, anything that shows the money isn't being used for the children's benefit. This really strengthened my case. The process took about 10 weeks for me, but it was absolutely worth it. Those benefits are meant to help support your kids where they actually live and receive daily care. Don't let your ex's potential pushback discourage you - you're advocating for your children's wellbeing and that's exactly what any good parent should do. You've got this!

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