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Maria Gonzalez

Social Security benefits and tax withholding while working at 67 - will extra paycheck withholding count toward quarterly taxes?

I started collecting Social Security retirement benefits last November while still working full-time (I'm 68 now). I've been trying to figure out how to handle federal taxes on my SS benefits, but it's been a nightmare getting answers! Called SSA first and they just bounced me to the IRS. Then IRS transferred me around THREE different times before disconnecting me completely. So frustrating! I decided to just have my employer take an additional $200 out of each paycheck for federal taxes starting in August 2025. My question is: Will this extra withholding be considered payment toward any quarterly estimated taxes I might owe on my Social Security benefits? Or am I going to get hit with some penalty at tax time for not making official "quarterly payments"? I'm worried because I've heard you're supposed to pay taxes on SS benefits throughout the year, not just at filing time. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Any advice would be really appreciated!

Natalie Chen

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You've actually done exactly the right thing! Increasing your withholding from your paycheck is one of the acceptable ways to pay estimated taxes on your Social Security benefits. The IRS doesn't care whether the tax comes from quarterly payments or paycheck withholding - they just want their money throughout the year rather than all at tax time. As long as your total withholding for the year covers at least 90% of this year's tax liability or 100% of last year's liability (whichever is smaller), you won't face any underpayment penalties. Many working retirees handle it exactly as you are doing.

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Oh thank goodness! I was really stressing about this. Does that mean I don't need to file those quarterly estimated payment forms at all? I thought maybe I needed to do both somehow.

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my sister just went thru this exact same thing!!! the SS people r USELESS when it comes to tax stuff, always passing the buck. she ended up owing a huge bill last april because nobody told her anything about quarterly payments!!!! wish she'd done what you did with the extra withholding

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Sorry to hear about your sister's experience! That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Did she get hit with penalties too, or just the tax bill?

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yeah she got hit with like $800 in penalties on top of the taxes!! said if she'd known she woulda had her job take out extra $ like ur doing

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I'm a retired CPA who specialized in retirement tax planning. Let me clarify some points: 1. Increasing your W-4 withholding absolutely counts toward your estimated tax requirements. The IRS treats withholding as if it occurred equally throughout the year, even if you just started the extra withholding in August. 2. For someone in your situation (working while collecting SS), withholding from your paycheck is usually more advantageous than quarterly payments because of the "even throughout the year" treatment I mentioned. 3. To avoid underpayment penalties, you need to have paid in either 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through withholding or quarterly payments. 4. Keep in mind that if your annual income exceeds certain thresholds ($25,000 for single filers or $32,000 for joint filers), up to 85% of your Social Security benefits become taxable. Your approach sounds solid. Just make sure that $200/paycheck extra withholding will be sufficient based on your total income.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize the IRS treats withholding as if it happened throughout the year - that's a huge relief since I didn't start the extra withholding until August. One follow-up question: My combined income (work + SS + some interest) will definitely put me in the 85% taxable range for my benefits. Is there a simple way to calculate approximately how much I should be withholding?

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For a quick approximation, calculate your expected total annual income (work wages + 85% of your SS benefits + other income). Subtract your standard deduction ($15,700 for single filers 65+ in 2025). Then estimate your tax using the 2025 tax brackets. Then compare that estimated tax to what you're already having withheld from your regular paycheck. The difference is approximately what you need to cover through extra withholding for the year. Divide by your remaining paychecks to see if $200/check is enough. For a more precise calculation, the IRS has a withholding calculator on their website, or you could consult with a tax professional for your specific situation.

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Nick Kravitz

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The SSA website SAYS you can have voluntary tax withholding on your SS benefits by submitting a W-4V form, but when I tried to do this last year they lost my paperwork TWICE!!! I ended up just increasing my work withholding like you did. The whole system is broken if you ask me. SSA blames IRS and IRS blames SSA while we just try to follow the rules and get nowhere.

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Hannah White

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Michael Green

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I STRONGLY suggest you file Form 1040-ES for quarterly estimated taxes anyway, even with your increased withholding. You don't want to get caught with a penalty. The IRS doesn't care what SSA told you or that you tried to get answers. They will assess penalties regardless. Don't trust your employer withholding to be enough. The system is designed to get every penny from retirees who work.

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This advice is actually incorrect and could cause unnecessary work and confusion. If the withholding from employment covers the tax liability adequately (using the 90%/100% rules I mentioned earlier), there is absolutely no need to ALSO file quarterly estimated payments with Form 1040-ES. The IRS provides specific guidelines on this in Publication 505. In fact, withholding is often MORE advantageous because it's treated as if paid evenly throughout the year even if increased later in the year.

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Mateo Silva

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I'm in almost the same boat (69, working full-time, taking SS since Jan 2025). My tax guy told me that the payroll withholding counts exactly the same as quarterly estimated payments. But he did say to check what my actual tax liability is likely to be. Don't forget that up to 85% of your SS benefits could be taxable depending on your total income. Make sure your extra $200/paycheck covers that. I'm having $275 extra taken out per paycheck just to be safe.

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That's good to know! I think I might need to increase my withholding a bit to be safe. Did your tax person mention anything about penalties if you don't withhold enough?

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Mateo Silva

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Yes - he said if you don't pay enough throughout the year (either through withholding or quarterly payments), you can get hit with an "underpayment penalty." But he also mentioned there's a safe harbor - if you pay at least 100% of what you owed last year (or 110% if your income is over $150k), you won't get penalized even if you end up owing more when you file.

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I went through this exact same situation last year when I turned 67 and started collecting SS while still working! The frustration with getting clear answers from both SSA and IRS is so real - I must have spent 6 hours on hold between the two agencies. What you're doing with the extra $200 withholding is perfect. I did something similar and had no issues at tax time. The key thing I learned is that as long as your total withholding (regular + extra) covers either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax, you're golden. No penalties, no quarterly payment forms needed. One tip: keep good records of when you started the extra withholding and how much. It helped me when I filed my taxes to have everything documented. Also, don't let anyone scare you into thinking you need to do BOTH withholding AND quarterly payments - that's overkill and completely unnecessary. You're handling this the smart way. The extra withholding from your paycheck is actually better than quarterly payments because the IRS treats it as if you paid evenly throughout the year, even though you didn't start until August.

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Alice Coleman

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's such a relief to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation. The part about keeping good records is really smart advice - I'll make sure to document everything about my extra withholding. Six hours on hold sounds about right for what I experienced too! It's crazy how neither agency wants to give you a straight answer about something so many working retirees deal with. Your confirmation that the extra withholding worked perfectly for you gives me a lot more confidence that I'm on the right track.

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