Does withholding taxes from Social Security checks vs. paying annually affect total tax amount?
I just turned 67 and started collecting Social Security last month. I'm still working part-time (about $18,000 yearly) and trying to figure out the tax situation. My sister is telling me I should have federal taxes withheld from my SS check (she gets 15% taken out), but my neighbor says it's better to just pay quarterly estimated taxes or at tax time. Does it make any difference financially? Would I end up paying the exact same amount either way? I'm trying to figure out what makes more sense for my situation. The SS agent wasn't very helpful when I called - just said it was my 'personal preference.' But there must be pros and cons to each approach, right?
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Miranda Singer
It's ultimately the same tax amount, but having taxes withheld is basically giving the government an interest-free loan. I've always opted to pay quarterly because I can keep that money invested until I actually need to pay it. The only real benefit to withholding is you don't have to remember to make payments - it's automatic. But mathematically you're better off paying later rather than sooner if you're even somewhat financially savvy.
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Aliyah Debovski
•That makes sense - I hadn't thought about the investment angle. Do you happen to know if there's a penalty if I don't withhold and then end up owing too much at tax time?
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Cass Green
The AMOUNT of tax is identical either way, but there can be penalties if you don't pay enough throughout the year. The IRS has a "safe harbor" rule - you need to pay at least 90% of this year's tax OR 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through withholding or estimated payments to avoid the underpayment penalty. If you're concerned about figuring out quarterly payments, having SS withhold is just simpler. You can use form W-4V to request withholding at 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% of your monthly benefit.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Thank you for explaining the safe harbor rule! That's really helpful. Maybe I'll start with withholding since it's my first year on SS and then reevaluate next year when I have a better sense of my total tax situation.
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Finley Garrett
I tryed both ways and honestly its EXACTLY the same amount you pay eventually!! The only difference is do you want smaller SS checks all year OR a big tax bill in April??! I personally HATE owing money at tax time so I just have them take out 12% and im done with it. peace of mind is worth something too ya know
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Madison Tipne
•Same here! I had a TERRIBLE experience one year when I owed a bunch and wasn't prepared. Now I just have them take out 15% from every check and I usually get a small refund. Yes technically I could be investing that money but the stress isn't worth it to me.
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Holly Lascelles
Be careful with this! If your combined income (adjusted gross + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, up to 85% of your Social Security becomes taxable. In my case, I didn't withhold enough my first year and ended up with a HUGE tax bill AND a penalty for underpayment! It was a nightmare. With your part-time income, you're probably right on the edge of having some of your SS benefits taxed. Have you calculated your provisional income? That's what determines if/how much of your SS is taxable.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Oh wow, I didn't realize there could be penalties! I definitely need to look into this provisional income calculation. Is there a worksheet or calculator on the IRS website you'd recommend?
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Malia Ponder
Have you tried calling the SSA to discuss your withholding options? I was trying to do the same thing last month and kept getting stuck on hold for HOURS before being disconnected. Finally, I tried a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent walked me through my withholding options and helped me understand exactly what percentage made sense for my situation. Way more helpful than trying to figure it out alone!
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Aliyah Debovski
•Thanks for the suggestion! I was on hold for over an hour last time I called SSA. I'll check out that service - would be nice to actually talk to someone who can answer my specific questions.
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Kyle Wallace
Financial advisor here. The math is identical either way, but there are behavioral and cash flow considerations: PROS OF WITHHOLDING: - Forced savings (no surprise tax bill) - Set it and forget it - May help avoid underpayment penalties PROS OF PAYING LATER: - Better cash flow throughout the year - Can invest the money until tax time - More control over timing For most retirees on fixed income, I recommend withholding for simplicity unless you have a specific cash flow need or are very disciplined with setting aside tax money.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Thank you for this clear breakdown! I think withholding might be the right choice for me, at least to start. I'm not the most disciplined with financial planning and would rather have smaller checks than a surprise bill.
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Finley Garrett
theres actually a form you need to get - i think its W4-V or something close to that. You pick the percentage you want taken out. My sister had a heart attack when she got a $4000 tax bill her first year on SS!! dont let that happen to you!!
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Miranda Singer
•It's Form W-4V (the V stands for Voluntary). And you're limited to requesting 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% - you can't choose any random percentage. Just clarifying in case anyone's looking for the form.
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Holly Lascelles
I'm still confused about how they tax Social Security in the first place. I thought we already paid taxes on our earnings before paying into the system?? So isn't this double taxation?? And with these new tax brackets I'm hearing about for 2025, will that change how much of my benefits are taxed? Sorry to hijack your thread but this whole system is so confusing.
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Cass Green
•The taxation of Social Security benefits is definitely confusing! Up to 85% of benefits may be taxable (not 100%), which partially accounts for the fact that you paid FICA with after-tax dollars. Whether your benefits are taxed depends on your "combined income" (AGI + non-taxable interest + 50% of SS benefits). For individuals: Below $25,000 = 0% taxed; $25,000-$34,000 = up to 50% taxed; Above $34,000 = up to 85% taxed. The 2025 tax changes mainly affect income tax brackets, not specifically how SS benefits are taxed. But if they change your overall income level, that could indirectly affect SS taxation.
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