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Lydia Santiago

Social Security Form SSA-1724 for representative payee - listing incarcerated family members?

I'm about to become my mother's representative payee and filling out the SSA-1724 form. I understand I need to list all her children, but I'm confused about my brother's situation. He's currently in jail and will be transferred to prison later this year. Do I still need to include him on the form? And if so, what address should I use for him? The jail address won't be valid once he's transferred, and I don't know which prison he'll go to yet. Does anyone have experience with this situation? The SSA office keeps disconnecting me when I call.

Romeo Quest

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Yes, you absolutely need to list ALL of your mother's children on the SSA-1724 form, including your incarcerated brother. The Social Security Administration requires complete information for their records when determining representative payee status. For his address, you should use his current location (the jail address) with a note that he's being transferred. You can update SSA later when you know his prison address. Remember that SSA often does background checks on family members when evaluating rep payee applications.

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Thank you! That makes sense. I wasn't sure if I should include him since he obviously can't be the payee while incarcerated. I'll put his current jail address and make a note about the pending transfer. Do you know if I'll need to formally update SSA once he's transferred to prison or just mention it during the annual accounting?

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Val Rossi

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when i did the rep payee thing for my aunt they made me list ALL her kids even the estranged ones i had no contact info for. just put down what u know. they mostly care that ur being honest about whos out there. the jail address is fine for now

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Eve Freeman

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Exactly this! They just want to make sure you're not hiding anyone who might have a better claim to be the rep payee. I had a similar situation with my dad's form.

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You HAVE TO list him!!! If you don't and they find out (WHICH THEY WILL), they could DENY your application to be the rep payee and possibly even accuse you of fraud!!! The SSA has ways of checking family relationships through their systems. Just use his current jail address and update them later. Don't risk your mom's benefits by leaving ANYONE off that form!!!

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Oh no, I definitely wasn't planning to leave him off intentionally! I just wasn't sure if I needed to include him since he's incarcerated. But I understand now that I need to list everyone regardless of their situation. Thanks for the warning!

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Caden Turner

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To directly answer your question - yes, you must list all children regardless of their circumstances. For the address, use his current incarceration facility. When he's transferred, you can update SSA with his new location. The form is specifically looking for all potential interested parties in your mother's care. As a side note, incarcerated individuals generally can't receive Social Security benefits except in specific circumstances, but they still need to be listed as relatives on the rep payee forms. The SSA wants a complete picture of the family structure to ensure the most appropriate person is serving as representative payee.

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Thank you for explaining this so clearly. I'll definitely include him. I was also wondering - the form asks for everyone's Social Security numbers. My brother is unlikely to provide his while he's incarcerated (we're not on speaking terms). Is it okay if I leave that field blank for him?

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Caden Turner

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You should provide as much information as you have. If you don't have his SSN, you can note that on the form. The SSA understands that in some family situations, complete information isn't available. Just be honest about what you know and what you don't know.

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Thank you! I've been trying to call for three days now and either get disconnected or told the wait time is over 2 hours. I'll check out that service since I have a few more questions about the form that I need answered before submitting it.

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Harmony Love

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my cousin became rep payee for their mom last summer and they forgot to list a step-sibling that nobody had talked to in years. social security found out somehow and made them start the whole application over! took like 3 extra months to get approved. don't make that mistake!

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Eve Freeman

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I think you're overthinking this. Just list him with the jail address and move on. The form is mainly to show SSA who might contest your appointment as rep payee. Your brother obviously can't serve as rep payee from jail so it's just a formality. Not worth stressing over!

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BAD ADVICE! The SSA takes these forms VERY seriously and they absolutely DO check the information! They don't just care about who could contest the rep payee, they want to know the ENTIRE family structure! Treating it as "just a formality" could get the application DENIED!!!

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Update: I submitted the form with my brother listed and his current jail address, with a note that he's being transferred soon. The SSA rep I finally spoke with (thanks for the Claimyr suggestion!) said that was exactly the right approach. She also said I should contact them once he's transferred to update his address in their system. Thanks everyone for your help!

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Romeo Quest

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Glad to hear it worked out! Keep all documentation of your representative payee application and approval. You'll need to submit the annual accounting form (SSA-623) every year, so start keeping good records of how you manage your mother's benefits. This will make the annual reporting much easier.

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Great to see this worked out for you! Just wanted to add for anyone else in a similar situation - when dealing with incarcerated family members on SSA forms, it's also helpful to keep a record of the facility's booking number or inmate ID if you have it. This can make it easier for SSA to verify the information if they need to. Also, most correctional facilities have specific procedures for official mail, so when you do need to update SSA with the new prison address later, make sure you get the complete mailing format from the facility (they often require specific formatting with inmate numbers, housing units, etc.).

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