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Can I collect California State Disability while applying for SSDI? Worried about benefits overlap

I recently developed a serious spinal condition that's preventing me from working. My doctor thinks it'll be at least 12-18 months before I can return to my construction job, if ever. I've already applied for California State Disability Insurance (SDI) since that seems faster, but my cousin is telling me I should apply for SSDI too because my condition might be long-term. I'm worried that if I apply for SSDI while receiving California disability, I'll mess something up or get penalized. Does anyone know if there's any problem with receiving state disability benefits while my SSDI application is being processed? Will one cancel out the other? I really need the income while I wait since the SSDI process seems to take forever. Thanks for any advice!

You absolutely CAN receive California SDI while your SSDI application is being processed. I did exactly this last year with my lupus diagnosis. The two systems are completely separate - California SDI is state-based short-term disability (usually up to 52 weeks), while SSDI is federal long-term disability. Since SSDI can take 6-24 months to get approved (mine took 8 months), it makes perfect sense to get SDI to cover your immediate needs. Just be aware that once your SSDI is approved, there might be some offset if the approval periods overlap.

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Thank you so much! That's a huge relief. Do you know if I need to report the SDI income on my SSDI application somewhere? I want to make sure I'm doing everything by the book.

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my brother tried to do both and the state made him pay back some money later said he couldnt get both at same time for same disability. not sure if he did something wrong tho

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Your brother might have been receiving SDI and SSDI for the same period, which can cause an offset issue. California SDI is perfectly fine while WAITING for SSDI approval. Once SSDI is approved (especially with backpay), there may be some recalculation needed.

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I went through this exact situation in 2023!!! YES you can get both but there's a lot of confusing rules. I was on CA disability for 9 months while my SSDI was processing. The important thing to understand is that when (if) you get approved for SSDI, they'll probably give you backpay to your disability onset date. That's where it gets tricky because you can't double-dip for the same months. Here's what happened to me: I got CA SDI for 9 months, then got approved for SSDI with 6 months of backpay. I had to pay back some of my California SDI for those overlapping months. It wasn't a penalty, just preventing double payments for the same period. DO apply for both! The SSDI process is RIDICULOUSLY slow and you need income now.

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This is so helpful, thank you! So I should budget for potentially having to pay back some of the California SDI once SSDI comes through with backpay? That makes sense actually.

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I work with disability claims. Here's the definitive answer: 1. Yes, you can and SHOULD apply for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously if you have a potentially long-term disability. 2. CA SDI provides benefits for up to 52 weeks. 3. SSDI is for long-term disabilities and has a 5-month waiting period before benefits begin. 4. If you receive SSDI approval with backpay that overlaps with SDI payments, you may need to reimburse the state for the overlapping period. This is called a "state disability offset." 5. You must report to CA SDI if you're approved for SSDI. Don't delay your SSDI application - the sooner you apply, the sooner the 5-month waiting period starts counting.

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is the 5 month waiting period from when u apply or from when u became disabled? never understood this part

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The 5-month waiting period begins from your established onset date (EOD) of disability, not from your application date. This is why applying promptly is important - the EOD can be backdated to when your disability began (with proper medical documentation), but you don't want to lose potential benefits by delaying your application.

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While you're dealing with this frustrating situation, I wanted to share something that helped me when I was applying for SSDI. One of the biggest headaches is getting through to SSA on the phone to check your application status or get questions answered. I discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual SSA representative without the endless hold times. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It was especially helpful for tracking my application progress and dealing with questions about my state disability benefits that came up during the process. Made the whole SSDI process a little less stressful.

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Thanks for the tip! I've already tried calling SSA twice and got disconnected both times after waiting over an hour. Will definitely check this out because I have so many questions about how this all works.

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I GOT REJECTED FOR SSDI TWICE before getting approved!!!! Don't give up if they deny you the first time. The system is DESIGNED to discourage people. My advice? Get a lawyer for your SSDI claim right from the start. They only get paid if you win, and they know all the tricks. Meanwhile, definitely take the CA disability - that's your RIGHT as a California worker who paid into the system.

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Agree about the lawyer! They only take about 25% of your backpay and it's SO worth it. I tried doing SSDI myself first and got nowhere.

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The rejection rates are really discouraging. Did having a lawyer speed up your case at all? I'm worried about waiting years for approval.

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Don't SSI and SSDI get confused all the time? I think my cousin got SSI because his disability wasn't from working. Or maybe it was the other way around? The whole system is super confusing.

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You're right that they often get confused, but they're very different programs: - SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is based on your work history and FICA contributions. It's for people who have worked and paid into the system but became disabled. - SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is needs-based for people with limited income and resources who are disabled, blind, or 65+. No work history required. Both are federal programs administered by SSA, but they have different eligibility requirements and payment calculations. California SDI is a separate state program entirely.

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Another thing nobody mentioned - track EVERYTHING! Every doctor visit, every medication, every bad day when you couldn't function. Keep a disability journal. When I applied for SSDI, they wanted details from the past 2 YEARS about my treatment history. I wish someone had told me to document everything from day one. It would have made my application so much stronger and possibly prevented my initial denial.

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That's really good advice. I'll start documenting everything right away. I have another doctor appointment next week and I'll make sure to get copies of all my records.

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I'm dealing with a similar spinal injury from a workplace accident and wanted to add something important - make sure you understand California's Workers' Compensation system too if your injury is work-related! Construction work often leads to comp claims, and there can be coordination issues between Workers' Comp, SDI, and SSDI. In my case, I had to navigate all three systems. Workers' Comp covered my medical bills and some wage replacement, but the process was slow. I was able to get California SDI while waiting for both Workers' Comp settlement and SSDI approval. Just be prepared for potential offsets between all these programs - it gets complicated fast. Also, since you mentioned construction work, definitely document any previous injuries or wear-and-tear. SSDI looks at your "residual functional capacity" - basically what you can still do despite your limitations. For us construction workers, that evaluation can be tricky because the work is so physically demanding.

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As someone who went through this exact situation with a back injury from roofing work, I can confirm what others have said - you absolutely CAN and SHOULD apply for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise! A few practical tips from my experience: - Apply for SSDI online at ssa.gov - it's actually faster than going to the office - When filling out the SSDI application, there's a specific section asking about other benefits you're receiving or have applied for. Be honest about your CA SDI - they expect this and it won't hurt your case - Keep copies of EVERYTHING. Your CA SDI award letter, medical records, work restrictions from doctors - you'll need all of this for SSDI too - If you're approved for SSDI with backpay, California EDD will send you a letter asking for repayment of the overlapping months. It's not a penalty, just preventing double payment The waiting is brutal, but having that CA SDI income while SSDI processes made all the difference for my family. Good luck with your case!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to apply for SSDI online like you suggested. One question - when you had to repay the overlapping months to California EDD, was it a lump sum or did they let you set up a payment plan? I'm worried about suddenly owing a big chunk of money if I get SSDI backpay.

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In my case, California EDD actually deducted the overpayment directly from my ongoing SSDI backpay before I even received it - so I never had to come up with a lump sum out of pocket. They coordinated with Social Security to handle the offset automatically. But I've heard from others that if the timing doesn't work out that way, EDD will usually work with you on a payment plan. The key is to respond to their letters promptly and communicate with them. Don't stress too much about it - they're used to dealing with these situations and they know most people can't just write a big check immediately.

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I'm currently going through this same process and can share what I've learned so far. You're absolutely right to apply for both - I made the mistake of waiting on SSDI thinking it would complicate things, but my caseworker at the local SSA office told me I should have applied months earlier. One thing that might help while you're waiting: ask your doctor for a detailed RFC (Residual Functional Capacity) assessment. This document is crucial for both your CA SDI and SSDI claims, especially with spinal conditions. It outlines exactly what physical limitations you have - like how much you can lift, how long you can stand/sit, etc. Having this upfront can strengthen both applications. Also, since you mentioned construction work, make sure to emphasize in your SSDI application how your specific job requirements (lifting, climbing, prolonged standing) are impossible with your condition. They need to understand that even if you might be able to do some light office work eventually, you can't return to your previous occupation. The income from CA SDI has been a lifesaver while waiting. Don't worry about the potential overlap repayment - it's manageable and better than having no income at all during this process.

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This is really valuable advice about the RFC assessment! I hadn't heard about that document before. My doctor has been pretty thorough about documenting my limitations, but I should ask specifically for an RFC form. Do you know if there's a standard form doctors use, or is it something they write up themselves? I want to make sure I get the right documentation that both CA SDI and SSDI will recognize. The point about emphasizing job-specific limitations makes a lot of sense too - I definitely can't do the heavy lifting and ladder work that construction requires.

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There are actually standardized RFC forms that doctors can use - SSA has their own forms (like SSA-4734-BK for physical RFC), but many doctors prefer to write their own detailed assessments because they can be more specific about your particular condition. The key is making sure it covers all the functional areas SSA evaluates: lifting/carrying capacity, standing/walking limitations, sitting restrictions, and any other physical limitations. When you ask your doctor, mention that you need it for both state disability and Social Security purposes. Some doctors are more familiar with workers' comp RFC forms, but the concepts are similar. The important thing is getting specific numbers - like "can only lift 10 pounds occasionally, cannot lift more than 5 pounds frequently" rather than vague terms like "limited lifting." Since you're in construction, definitely emphasize limitations with climbing, balancing, crawling, and working at heights. These are called "postural limitations" and they're crucial for someone in your field. Even if you could theoretically do some desk work, the RFC should clearly show you can't perform your past relevant work.

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I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share my recent experience since I just went through this exact situation. I applied for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously after a herniated disc injury last year, and it worked out perfectly. The key thing that helped me was being completely transparent on all applications. When I applied for SSDI online, I clearly listed that I was already receiving CA SDI benefits. When CA EDD asked during my SDI application if I planned to apply for other disability benefits, I said yes to SSDI. Both agencies expect this coordination - it's not unusual at all. My timeline: Got approved for CA SDI in about 6 weeks, then got SSDI approval 11 months later with 8 months of backpay. CA EDD sent me a simple letter asking for repayment of $3,200 for the overlapping months, and they deducted it directly from my SSDI backpay before I received it. No stress, no penalties, just a straightforward offset. The CA SDI payments kept me afloat during that long SSDI wait. Definitely apply for both right away - every month you delay SSDI is a potential month of lost benefits, even if you ultimately get approved with backpay. The worst thing that can happen is they say no, but at least you'll have started the process and the waiting periods.

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This is exactly the kind of real-world timeline I was hoping to hear about! Your 11-month SSDI approval actually sounds pretty reasonable compared to some of the horror stories I've been reading. The fact that CA EDD handled the offset automatically by deducting from your SSDI backpay makes this whole process seem much more manageable than I initially thought. I'm definitely going to apply for SSDI right away now - you're absolutely right that delaying just costs potential benefits. Thanks for sharing such a detailed and reassuring experience!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and helpful experiences! I'm currently dealing with a similar situation - waiting for SSDI approval while receiving state disability benefits from another state - and reading through all these responses has been incredibly reassuring. What strikes me most is how consistent everyone's advice is: apply for both, be transparent about receiving other benefits, and don't worry about the potential overlap repayment. The real-world timelines and experiences shared here are so much more valuable than the confusing information I've been finding on official websites. For anyone else in this situation reading this thread, it seems like the key takeaways are: 1) Apply for SSDI immediately - don't delay, 2) Be completely honest about all benefits on your applications, 3) Document everything thoroughly, and 4) The overlap repayment is manageable and often handled automatically. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complex systems. Thank you all for taking the time to help others going through similar challenges!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and have been following this thread closely since I'm in a very similar situation with a back injury from my warehouse job. The consistency of advice really is striking - it gives me so much more confidence to move forward with both applications. What I found especially helpful was learning about the RFC assessment and the importance of documenting job-specific limitations. Before reading this thread, I didn't realize how crucial it is to explain why you can't return to your previous type of work, not just that you have a medical condition. The transparency point really resonates with me too. I was worried that mentioning other benefits would somehow hurt my chances, but it sounds like the agencies actually expect this coordination. Thanks for summarizing those key takeaways - I'm bookmarking this whole discussion for reference as I navigate my own applications!

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As someone who just joined this community and is currently navigating a similar situation with a work-related injury, I wanted to add my voice to this incredibly helpful discussion. I'm about 3 months into receiving state disability benefits (not California, but similar program) while my SSDI application is being processed, and reading everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring. Like many others have mentioned, I was initially worried about applying for both programs simultaneously, but my state's disability office actually encouraged me to apply for SSDI right away. One thing I've learned that might help others: when you're filling out the SSDI work history section, be as detailed as possible about your job duties. Don't just put "construction worker" - list specific tasks like "lifted 50+ pound materials daily, worked on ladders up to 20 feet, operated heavy machinery while standing for 8+ hours." This helps them understand exactly why your medical condition prevents you from returning to that type of work. Also, I wanted to echo what others said about keeping detailed records. I started a simple spreadsheet tracking every doctor visit, medication change, good days vs. bad days, and how my symptoms affect daily activities. It's been invaluable for follow-up appointments and will hopefully strengthen my SSDI case. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but having that state disability income while SSDI processes has made this whole ordeal manageable. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is such a valuable resource!

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Welcome to the community! Your point about being detailed in the SSDI work history section is really valuable - I hadn't thought about how important it is to paint that complete picture of job demands rather than just listing a job title. The spreadsheet idea for tracking symptoms and activities is brilliant too. I'm dealing with a similar spinal condition from construction work, and after reading through this entire thread, I feel so much more confident about applying for both programs. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you hear from people who've actually been through the process rather than trying to decipher government websites. Thanks for adding your experience to this already incredibly helpful discussion!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my gratitude for such a comprehensive and reassuring discussion! I'm currently facing a very similar situation - I recently injured my back in a workplace accident and am trying to navigate the maze of disability benefits while unable to work. Reading through everyone's experiences has answered so many questions I didn't even know I had. The consistent message about applying for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously, being completely transparent on applications, and not worrying about the overlap repayment has given me the confidence to move forward with both claims immediately. What really stands out to me is how the community has provided practical, real-world advice that you simply can't find on government websites - things like the importance of detailed RFC assessments, keeping symptom journals, and being specific about job duties in SSDI applications. The actual timelines and repayment processes shared here are invaluable. For anyone else just starting this journey, this thread is a goldmine of information. It's clear that while the process can be complex and lengthy, it's absolutely manageable with the right approach. Thank you all for creating such a supportive environment where people can share their experiences and help others navigate these challenging situations!

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Welcome to the community, Sean! I'm also relatively new here and just wanted to echo your sentiments about how incredibly helpful this discussion has been. I've been lurking and reading through all these responses while dealing with my own disability situation, and the level of practical, actionable advice here is amazing. What really struck me is how everyone emphasizes that transparency is key - it completely changed my mindset about applying for multiple benefits. I was initially scared that mentioning other applications would somehow hurt my chances, but now I understand that the agencies actually expect and plan for this coordination. The detailed timelines and real repayment experiences shared here have been so much more valuable than the vague information I found elsewhere. It's one thing to read "there may be offsets" on a government website, and completely different to hear someone say "CA EDD deducted $3,200 from my SSDI backpay automatically - no stress, no penalties." I'm planning to start my applications this week based on everything I've learned here. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences - you're helping so many people navigate what can feel like an overwhelming process!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful to have found this discussion! I'm currently dealing with a herniated disc from a fall at my warehouse job and have been paralyzed by confusion about whether I could apply for both state disability and SSDI at the same time. Reading through all these detailed experiences has completely changed my understanding of the process. The consistent advice about transparency, the real-world timelines, and especially hearing about how the overlap repayment actually works in practice has given me the confidence to move forward with both applications immediately. What really resonates with me is how everyone emphasizes that these agencies expect this coordination - it's not something to hide or worry about. The practical tips about RFC assessments, detailed job descriptions, and keeping symptom journals are exactly the kind of actionable advice I needed but couldn't find anywhere else. I'm especially thankful for those who shared their actual repayment experiences - knowing that CA EDD often handles the offset automatically by deducting from SSDI backpay makes this whole situation feel so much more manageable. This thread should honestly be pinned as a resource for anyone facing similar situations. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space where people can get real answers to these critical questions!

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Welcome to the community, Lucas! I'm also new here and just wanted to add my voice to say how amazing this thread has been. Like you, I was completely overwhelmed trying to figure out the disability benefits system after my own workplace injury, and finding this discussion has been a game-changer. What really helped me was seeing the actual dollar amounts and timelines people shared - it makes everything so much more concrete and less scary. The fact that multiple people had similar experiences with the automatic offset handling really reinforces that this is a well-established process, not something to stress about. I'm planning to print out this entire thread to reference as I go through my own applications. The level of detail everyone provided - from specific forms to mention to doctors, to exact wording for job descriptions - is incredibly valuable. It's like having a roadmap from people who've actually walked this path before. Thanks for adding your perspective, and I hope your recovery goes smoothly. This community really seems to understand what we're all going through!

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As a newcomer to this community, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing such detailed and helpful experiences! I'm currently in almost the exact same situation as Dmitry - developed a serious back injury from my construction job and have been completely overwhelmed trying to figure out the disability benefits maze. This thread has been absolutely invaluable in clearing up my confusion about applying for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously. Before reading all these responses, I was terrified that applying for both would somehow disqualify me or create problems. Now I understand that not only is it allowed, but it's actually the smart thing to do given how long SSDI processing takes. The real-world examples of repayment processes have been especially reassuring - hearing that CA EDD often handles the offset automatically by deducting from SSDI backpay makes this whole situation feel manageable rather than scary. The practical advice about RFC assessments, detailed job descriptions, and keeping symptom journals gives me a clear roadmap for strengthening my applications. I'm planning to apply for both benefits this week based on everything I've learned here. This community is such an amazing resource for people navigating these complex systems - thank you all for taking the time to help others!

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Welcome to the community, Yara! I'm also a newcomer here and just wanted to say how much I appreciate you adding your voice to this incredible discussion. Like you, I was initially overwhelmed and scared about navigating the disability system, but reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a relief. What really stands out to me is how this thread has transformed from one person's question into this amazing resource that's helping so many of us who are dealing with similar situations. The consistency of advice and the real-world examples everyone has shared make this feel like having a support group of people who truly understand what we're going through. I'm also planning to start my applications this week - it's so encouraging to know there are others of us taking this step at the same time based on the wisdom shared here. Best of luck with your recovery and your applications. This community really gives me hope that we can all navigate this challenging process successfully!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to add my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences in this thread! I'm currently facing a very similar situation - I injured my shoulder and neck in a workplace accident and have been struggling to understand how to navigate the disability benefits system while unable to work. Reading through all these detailed responses has been incredibly enlightening and reassuring. The consistent message that you can and should apply for both CA SDI and SSDI simultaneously, combined with the real-world examples of how the overlap repayment actually works, has given me the confidence to move forward with both applications immediately. What I found particularly valuable was learning about the importance of detailed documentation - both in terms of medical records and job duty descriptions. The advice about RFC assessments and keeping symptom journals provides such a clear roadmap for building strong applications. The transparency about actual timelines and repayment amounts (like the $3,200 offset example) makes this whole process feel much more manageable than the scary unknowns I was imagining. I'm especially grateful to those who emphasized that these agencies expect this coordination - it completely changed my perspective from worrying about "getting in trouble" for applying to multiple programs to understanding it's actually the recommended approach. This thread is an absolute goldmine of practical information that you simply cannot find on official government websites. Thank you all for creating such a supportive environment where people can get real answers during such a challenging time!

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Welcome to the community, Nia! I'm also a newcomer here and wanted to echo your gratitude for this incredible thread. Like you, I was completely overwhelmed trying to figure out the disability system after my own workplace injury, and finding this discussion has been life-changing. What really struck me is how everyone's advice is so consistent and practical - it gives me confidence that this is truly the right approach. The transparency about actual dollar amounts and timelines makes everything feel so much more real and manageable than the vague government information I'd been struggling with. I'm particularly grateful for the emphasis on detailed documentation that you mentioned. Before reading this, I didn't realize how important it would be to track symptoms daily or be so specific about job duties. It's like having a step-by-step guide from people who've actually been through this process. I'm planning to start my applications next week based on everything I've learned here. It's so encouraging to see how many of us newcomers are finding the same clarity and confidence from this amazing community. Best of luck with your shoulder and neck recovery, and thank you for adding your voice to this supportive discussion!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my sincere appreciation for this incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! I'm currently dealing with a work-related spinal injury from my job in the trades, and I've been absolutely paralyzed by confusion about how to navigate the disability benefits system. This thread has been a complete game-changer for me. Before finding this discussion, I was terrified that applying for both state disability and SSDI would somehow create problems or disqualify me from benefits entirely. Reading through everyone's real-world experiences has completely transformed my understanding - not only is it allowed to apply for both simultaneously, but it's actually the recommended approach given SSDI's lengthy processing times. What I found most valuable was the consistent emphasis on transparency across all applications, the detailed explanations of how overlap repayments actually work in practice, and the practical tips about RFC assessments and documentation strategies. The actual timelines and dollar amounts people shared (like the automatic $3,200 offset example) make this whole process feel manageable rather than terrifying. The advice about being specific with job duty descriptions really resonates with me - I never realized how important it is to paint that complete picture of physical demands rather than just listing a job title. I'm definitely going to start that symptom tracking spreadsheet approach as well. Based on everything I've learned here, I'm planning to apply for both benefits immediately. This community has provided the clarity and confidence I desperately needed during such a challenging time. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space where people can get real, practical answers!

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Welcome to the community, Oliver! As another newcomer who's been following this amazing thread, I completely understand that feeling of being paralyzed by confusion about the disability system. I'm in a similar situation with a back injury from my manufacturing job, and like you, I was initially terrified about applying for multiple benefits. What's really helped me is seeing how this discussion has evolved from one person's question into this comprehensive resource that's helping so many of us. The consistency of everyone's advice - apply for both, be transparent, don't worry about the overlap - really gives me confidence that we're getting solid guidance from people who've actually navigated this process. I'm particularly grateful for your point about the detailed job descriptions. Before reading this thread, I was just planning to put "machine operator" but now I realize I need to explain the specific physical demands - lifting 40+ pounds repeatedly, standing on concrete for 10+ hours, working in awkward positions around machinery. It really does paint a completely different picture of why my back injury prevents me from returning to that work. I'm also planning to start both applications immediately based on everything shared here. It's encouraging to know there are so many of us taking this step together with the wisdom this community has provided. Best of luck with your recovery and your applications - this supportive environment gives me so much hope that we can all successfully navigate this challenging process!

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