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I forgot to mention in my earlier post - if your brother has worked enough (usually 10 years) and paid into Social Security, make sure he applies specifically for SSDI not SSI. They're completely different programs! SSDI is based on work credits and doesn't look at assets/resources. SSI is needs-based with strict asset limits. Also, he should apply for Medicare at the same time as SSDI. There's a 24-month waiting period for Medicare after SSDI approval (with some exceptions), but getting the application in early helps.

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wait whats the difference between ssi and ssdi? i thought they were the same thing??

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One more critical piece of advice based on my experience: Your brother should NOT attempt to return to work before applying and getting a decision. The SSA will use any work attempt as evidence that he's not disabled, even if he tries and fails or can only manage a few hours. I know it's tough financially, but trying to work during the application process can torpedo his case. Instead, focus on documenting the medical treatment, surgical history, and recovery attempts. The fact that he has a documented infection that requires additional surgery creates a very clear medical case. Make sure the doctors document that the infection is preventing proper healing and causing ongoing limitations.

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This is such important advice - thank you. He was actually planning to try working part-time next week, thinking it would show he's not trying to "game the system." I'll talk to him about focusing on recovery instead. His surgeon actually said working could worsen the infection risk, so we should get that documented clearly.

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this is why the government is so USELESS!!! they send out emails that confuse millions of people and then don't answer the phone. my husbands ben on hold for 3 HOURS today trying to get a simple question answered about his benefits. they say one thing online and another thing when you finally talk to someone. RIDICULOUS!!!

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totally agree! system is broken

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One thing I should add - while you won't receive the 2.5% COLA this January, your benefit amount should still be correct based on the application you submitted. If you applied recently, your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) calculation already includes wage indexing factors that account for inflation up to your eligibility year. If you want to double-check your benefit calculation, you can request a PEBES (earnings statement) from SSA which breaks down how they calculated your benefit amount based on your lifetime earnings. This might give you peace of mind that you're receiving the correct amount even without the COLA.

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That's really helpful information. I'll look into requesting that statement to verify my calculation. Thank you!

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I see from your comments that you're planning to call SSA. When you do, make sure to ask specifically for a "payment explanation." The representative should be able to pull up a transaction code associated with that payment that will explain exactly what it was for. Common codes for small adjustments include: - 396/397: COLA adjustment - 310: Medicare premium adjustment - 150: Retroactive payment - 456: Taxation adjustment It's important to get this documented in case there's ever a question about it in the future. Also, verify if this impacts your total expected 2025 benefits in any way or if it was strictly a one-time correction for a past period.

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Thank you for those specific codes! That's really helpful information. I'll ask about the transaction code specifically when I call. I'll update here once I find out what it was for in case it helps someone else.

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I just realized something - check if this might be related to the Medicare Part B premium adjustment that was announced for 2025. The standard premium went up to $174.70 (from $164.90 in 2024), but if you were entitled to a smaller increase based on the "hold harmless" provision, they might have made an adjustment. Did your Medicare premium change recently?

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Yes, my Medicare premium did change! I remember seeing the new amount on my December statement. That's a really good point - this could definitely be related to the hold harmless provision since my COLA increase wasn't that large. I'll bring this up specifically when I call.

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The hold harmless provision is a very likely explanation. It ensures that your Social Security benefit doesn't decrease when Medicare premiums increase. If the COLA increase to your SS benefit was less than the Medicare premium increase, SSA would have limited your premium increase, and this could be an adjustment related to that calculation. Very good insight.

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So what DOES change on the statement year to year? Is it just my earnings record being updated? Is there any way to see what my family would ACTUALLY get with COLA included if something happened to me next year instead of right now?

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Your earnings record updates, your retirement benefit projections change based on recent earnings and COLA, and the survivor benefit base amounts recalculate if your earnings change significantly. To estimate future survivor benefits with COLA, you can take the current survivor benefit amount shown and manually apply the projected COLA percentage for each year. For example, if survivor benefits show $2,000 now and COLA is projected at 2.6% for next year, they would be around $2,052 next year. It's not perfect, but gives you a rough idea for planning purposes.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I understand much better now. Seems like this is just a limitation in how the Statement displays information rather than an actual difference in how benefits are adjusted. I wish SSA would make this clearer on the Statement itself to avoid confusion.

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one more thing nobody said is about TAXES!! if u take both benefits you might push urself into higher tax bracket. thats what happened to my friend Judy and she was so mad!!

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Just to clarify - you don't receive both benefits simultaneously. You receive either survivor benefits OR your own retirement benefits, whichever you've applied for (and later can switch to the other if it makes financial sense). But yes, tax implications are definitely something to consider when planning your claiming strategy.

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After reading through this whole thread, here's what I'd suggest based on what you've shared: 1. Since you don't need the immediate income (you have your teaching pension) and won't exceed the earnings limit with your consulting work, waiting until your FRA (67) to claim unreduced survivor benefits makes sense. 2. Then at 70, switch to your own retirement benefit which will have grown to approximately $3,224/month. 3. Before making a final decision, schedule an appointment with SSA to get a personalized analysis. They can run exact calculations based on your earnings record. 4. Consider meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies to factor in your complete financial picture, including tax implications. This strategy should maximize your lifetime benefits while providing income security.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! I'll definitely try to get an appointment with SSA and speak with a financial advisor. This has given me a much better understanding of my options and the factors I need to consider.

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