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I see a LOT of confusion about this topic! My wife is 7 years younger than me, and we went through this exact situation. Here's what ACTUALLY happens: 1) Your husband CANNOT receive spousal benefits until YOU file for YOUR retirement benefits 2) The SSA calculator is showing a HYPOTHETICAL amount based on if you filed RIGHT NOW 3) When you DO file at your FRA, then your husband can apply for spousal benefits 4) He'll only get the DIFFERENCE between his current benefit and 50% of your PIA (if that's higher) Don't be fooled by that $1140 number - that's likely 50% of your projected PIA, not the actual amount he'd receive as a top-up. His actual top-up will be that amount MINUS his current benefit. And YES, it's worth waiting until your FRA to file!!!! Don't file early - you'll reduce BOTH your benefit AND any potential spousal benefit for your husband.
somebody told me once that if ur spouse dies the survivor gets the higher of the two benefits. not sure if thats true but might be something to think about with ur planning
That's correct. When one spouse passes away, the surviving spouse can receive the higher of either their own benefit or the deceased spouse's full benefit (what they were receiving or would have received at FRA). This is why it's often beneficial for the higher-earning spouse to delay claiming as long as possible - it potentially creates a larger survivor benefit.
To clarify some information here: As a disabled surviving divorced spouse, you're eligible since your marriage lasted over 10 years. The benefit calculation will work like this: 1. SSA will calculate your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) 2. As a disabled widow, you'll receive 71.5% of his PIA if you claim now at age 56 3. This percentage reduction is permanent (unless you switch to retirement benefits later) 4. SSA will compare this amount to your current SSDI 5. You'll receive the higher of the two amounts Since you're already receiving SSDI, there's no 5-month waiting period for survivor benefits. Any increase will be effective from your application date (or up to 6 months retroactively if you request it). Your Medicare will continue unaffected. When you turn full retirement age (FRA), you may want to reassess which benefit to take, as the reduction for early claiming no longer applies at that point.
Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. I didn't realize the percentage would be reduced because of my age. So if I understand correctly, I'd get 71.5% of what he would have received at his full retirement age? And this might still be more than my current SSDI depending on his earnings history?
Wait so what happens if you suspend your benefits at 67? Do the kids benefits stop too?? This happened to my cousin and he had NO idea the kids payments would stop when he suspended to get the 8% per year increases!
Thank you all for the helpful insights! I think I need to weigh the immediate benefit for the twins against my long-term retirement security. Since I'd lose the kids' benefits if I suspend at 67, and my early filing permanently reduces my spousal amount, I'm now leaning toward waiting a couple more years before filing. Maybe I can work part-time a bit longer and file when they're 15 to minimize the early filing reduction while still getting them some benefits before they finish high school. I'll definitely use that Claimyr service to talk with SSA and go through my specific numbers before making the final decision.
Quick update on what I said earlier - I just remembered something important. If you're really close to the appeal deadline and still don't have the medical records situation sorted out, you can request an extension of time for the appeal. Submit form SSA-795 (Statement of Claimant) and specifically request additional time due to difficulties obtaining medical evidence and representation issues. While extensions aren't automatically granted, they're often approved when there are legitimate obstacles like what you're experiencing. Also, when you go to the SSA office, ask specifically for a Technical Expert (TE) as they have more authority to help with complex situations than the regular Claims Representatives.
You can request one when you arrive, but it might help to call ahead (if you can get through) and specifically ask for an appointment with a Technical Expert for a complex disability appeal situation. TEs usually don't work the front desk, so they need to know in advance that their expertise is needed.
Avery Flores
One crucial point that hasn't been mentioned: while claiming divorced spouse benefits doesn't require your ex to be receiving benefits, he does need to be age-eligible (at least 62). Since you mentioned he's 66, this requirement is already met. Even though your own benefit will be higher, it's still important to mention your eligible divorced spouse status when you apply. This ensures the SSA does the proper calculations and comparison. Given your substantial benefit amount ($2,950), I strongly recommend waiting until your Full Retirement Age to avoid permanent reductions. If your financial situation allows, waiting until 70 would increase your benefit by approximately 32% to around $3,900 per month for the rest of your life.
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Caden Nguyen
•Thank you for this additional information. I wasn't aware of the age requirement for the ex-spouse, but good to know he meets that criteria. I'll definitely mention the marriage when I apply, even though it sounds like my own benefit will be higher. The idea of waiting until 70 is tempting, but I'm concerned about the break-even point. At what age would I need to live to in order to make delaying until 70 worthwhile?
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Zoe Gonzalez
To answer your question about the break-even point for delaying benefits from FRA to age 70: Generally, you'd need to live until approximately 82-83 years old to break even. Every month you live beyond that age, you're coming out ahead by having delayed. With women's average life expectancy now in the mid-80s and continuing to increase, delaying benefits is often a smart financial decision, especially for women with family histories of longevity. It's essentially longevity insurance. Delaying also maximizes potential survivor benefits should you remarry. Something to consider in your overall planning.
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Alexis Robinson
•This break-even analysis is so important and not enough people consider it! My financial advisor showed me that with current life expectancies for women, something like 80% of women would be better off waiting until 70 to claim. It's basically betting that you'll live beyond 83, which statistically, most women who reach 65 will do. I wish I had waited.
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