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Social Security GPO/WEP repeal impact on my husband's mixed state/SS work history benefits?

I'm trying to understand what the potential GPO/WEP repeal would mean for our specific situation. My husband worked for 12 years in the private sector paying into Social Security, then switched to a state government job with a pension (non-SS). Currently, his SS benefits are reduced because of WEP, and he can't get much from my record due to GPO. If the rumored legislation repealing GPO/WEP goes through, I'm confused about what would happen when we reach our FRA (mine's in 8 months, his is next year): 1. Would he just get his own SS benefit without the WEP reduction? 2. Would he also qualify for a spousal benefit from my much higher SS record? 3. How does his state pension factor in after the repeal? I've been getting different answers from friends who claim to know, and the SSA rep I finally got through to seemed unsure since it's just proposed legislation. Has anyone here dealt with this mixed work history situation? Thanks!

CosmicCrusader

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The GPO/WEP repeal legislation is still not guaranteed to pass, but IF it does go through, here's how it would likely affect you: 1. Your husband would get his full SS benefit without the WEP reduction that currently penalizes people with split careers 2. He could potentially qualify for spousal benefits from your record without the GPO reduction 3. His state pension would remain unchanged, but would no longer impact his Social Security benefits The key thing to understand is that the repeal would essentially treat your husband like any other Social Security beneficiary, regardless of his state pension. This means both his own benefit would increase (no WEP) and he could get more from your record (no GPO). I went through a similar situation with my wife's benefits last year. The calculations can get complicated because it depends on his earnings history, when he worked those 12 SS-covered years, and how much he would qualify for from your record. If you want to get specific numbers, I'd recommend calling SSA again and asking specifically about WEP/GPO calculations for your situation.

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Omar Zaki

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Thank you for explaining! So he potentially could get BOTH benefits - his own full amount plus something from my record? I thought it was always one or the other (whichever is higher). We've been planning retirement assuming minimal SS for him, so this would be a huge change to our finances if it passes.

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Chloe Robinson

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my hubby was in almost exact same boat!! 14 yrs SS paying work then teacher for 22 yrs. we got totally screwed by those unfair laws when we retired in 2021... his SS check was cut by like 55%!!! and couldn't get a dime from my record even tho I earned way more. super unfair system if u ask me!!! if they repeal those laws maybe we can finally get whats owed to us

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CosmicCrusader

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You've got a good point about the fairness issue. The original intent of WEP/GPO was to prevent "double-dipping," but these provisions have caused genuine hardship for public servants. The most recent repeal bills I've seen include some retroactive provisions, but they typically phase in over time rather than providing immediate full repayment. Worth keeping an eye on the specific language if/when something passes.

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Diego Flores

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Just to clarify one thing - with or without GPO/WEP, your husband wouldn't actually get BOTH his full benefit AND a full spousal benefit. If the repeal passes, he would get his own full benefit without WEP reduction, PLUS potentially a spousal top-up if 50% of your benefit is higher than his own benefit (the difference between the two). It's not two separate full payments. When you say "huge reduction" - yes, WEP can reduce his own benefit by up to $512/month in 2025, though the exact amount depends on his specific earnings history and years of substantial SS earnings.

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Omar Zaki

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That makes more sense. So it's not like he'd get two full benefits, just his own unreduced one plus possibly some extra from mine if half of mine is higher? I've been trying to figure out the math, and it's confusing because his unreduced SS benefit would be around $1,400 (based on his earnings statement), but with WEP it drops to about $950. My benefit will be around $3,200, so half would be $1,600. So if repeal happens, would he get $1,400 (his full amount) plus $200 (the difference between half of mine and his)?

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DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP!!! they been promising to repeal GPO/WEP for DECADES and nothing ever happens!! I waited for 15 years after retiring from county job and congress keeps putting it off. They talk big game to get votes from gov workers but never follow through. My advice is plan like it won't happen and be surprised if it does.

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Chloe Robinson

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so true!!! my cousin said same thing. they always introduce bills every year and nothing happens. im not holding my breath either

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Sean Flanagan

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Your calculations look correct - if the repeal passes, based on the numbers you shared, your husband would get his unreduced benefit of $1,400 plus the $200 difference from your record (since half of yours is $1,600). That would be a $650 monthly increase from his current reduced benefit of $950. One thing to keep in mind is that any legislation could include phase-in periods or other limitations. For example, some proposals have included 10-year phase-ins for full implementation. Also, regarding your state pension - the years he worked in state government will have no impact on his Social Security benefit if WEP is repealed. The state pension would continue separately as always. Have you tried getting an appointment at your local SSA office to run the numbers specifically for your situation? They should be able to tell you exactly what his benefit would be with and without WEP/GPO.

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Omar Zaki

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Thanks for confirming my math! I've been trying to get an appointment at our local office for weeks but they're booked solid. And calling is just as frustrating - I've spent hours on hold only to get disconnected. I'll keep trying though since $650 more per month would make a huge difference for us.

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Zara Mirza

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I've been dealing with this exact issue for clients of mine (I'm a retirement planner). One option that might help you right now is using Claimyr to get through to SSA by phone. I had a client use it last week to discuss a similar WEP situation and they connected with an agent in under 20 minutes. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU and you can find it at claimyr.com. Given the complexity of your situation with mixed work history and pending legislation, talking to an actual SSA rep who can access your records would be most helpful. Regarding the legislation itself - the most recent versions I've seen would indeed eliminate both WEP and GPO entirely, which means your husband would get his full earned SS benefit plus potentially a spousal supplement if half your PIA exceeds his own. Most proposals have included some form of phase-in period though.

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Omar Zaki

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Thank you for this suggestion! I'll check out that service. I really need to talk to someone who can look at our specific records. And I appreciate the confirmation about how the benefits would work - that matches what others have said.

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NebulaNinja

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I have a dumb question maybe but how do you know what your husband's FULL benefit would be without WEP? My husband also has a mixed work history (11 years private, 19 years federal) and his SS statement just shows the WEP-reduced amount. Is there a way to calculate what it would be if WEP didn't exist?

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Diego Flores

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Not a dumb question at all! The easiest way is to look at the SSA benefit statement from BEFORE he started his government job. If he doesn't have those old statements, you can ask SSA to calculate his non-WEP benefit (though it can be hard to reach them). Alternatively, there's a rough calculation: if he has 30+ years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security, WEP doesn't apply. If he has 20-29 years, WEP is reduced. So you can look at the WEP chart on SSA.gov and work backward based on his years of substantial earnings. The maximum WEP reduction for 2025 is $512/month for someone with 20 or fewer years of substantial earnings.

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From what I'v heard, the new law probably won't be retroactive, so those of us already getting reduced benefits are probably still screwed!!! Classic government, changing rules but not helping people already hurt by the old rules. Been dealing with this garbage for 7 years now and trust me, they don't care about us.

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Chloe Robinson

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that would be SO unfair if thats true!! we should all get our money back if they admit the laws were wrong!!

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CosmicCrusader

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Just to provide a bit more clarity on the technical side: Under current law, the WEP reduction is capped at no more than 50% of your husband's non-covered pension (his state pension). So sometimes the actual reduction is less than the maximum WEP amount I mentioned earlier. Also, remember that for GPO, the current reduction is 2/3 of his government pension amount. So when calculating potential benefits after a repeal, you'd need to add back that reduction to see the full impact. One other point - while many commenters are skeptical about legislative action, there has been more bipartisan support recently due to teacher and first responder advocacy groups pushing hard for these changes. The proposed Social Security Fairness Act has gained significant traction in the current session.

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Omar Zaki

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Thank you for the additional details. The 50% cap on WEP reduction is interesting - I didn't know that. His state pension will be around $2,800/month, so I guess that means his WEP reduction couldn't be more than $1,400 anyway? I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much about the legislation passing, but it would certainly be life-changing for us and many others in similar situations if it does.

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Chloe Robinson

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my friend's husband was in same situation exact situation and they got so confused they hired a financial advisor just to figure out all this GPO/WEP stuff!!! cost them $500 but they said it was worth it just to understand what they'd actually get. might be worth considering if you can afford it

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Diego Flores

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That's not a bad suggestion, but be careful about who you hire. Look specifically for advisors who specialize in federal/state retirement systems and have experience with WEP/GPO calculations. Many general financial advisors don't fully understand these complex provisions.

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