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Social Security WEP repeal confusion - Can I switch to spousal benefits after SSFA passes?

I'm currently receiving Social Security retirement benefits that are reduced by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) because of my teacher's pension. My husband receives a much higher benefit - about $3,800 monthly compared to my $1,250. With all this talk about the Social Security Fairness Act finally repealing WEP and GPO, I'm confused about what to do next. If this legislation passes, should I immediately apply for spousal benefits? Would I get 50% of his benefit instead of my reduced amount? Also, I've heard there might be retroactive payments for those affected by WEP - if I switch to spousal benefits right away, would I lose my eligibility for that retroactive payment? Or should I wait to get the retroactive payment first and THEN apply for spousal? The whole thing is so confusing and I'm worried about making the wrong decision. Has anyone else in a similar WEP situation figured this out?

Omar Hassan

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First, understand that the Social Security Fairness Act hasn't actually passed yet - it has support but isn't law. If/when it does pass, you'll have options. As someone who receives a WEP-reduced benefit, you would likely receive some retroactive payment for the WEP reduction. However, spousal benefits work differently - you'd receive the higher of either your own benefit or up to 50% of your husband's benefit (so potentially up to $1,900 in your case). If the law passes, I'd recommend waiting until you receive official guidance from SSA before making any changes. If you switch to spousal benefits immediately, you might complicate your retroactive WEP claim. The SSA will need to establish procedures for handling these situations.

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Freya Pedersen

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Thank you for explaining that! So if I understand correctly, I should wait until the law actually passes before doing anything? And then wait for SSA to provide guidance? I'm so anxious about missing out on money that's rightfully mine after all these years of reduced benefits.

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Chloe Anderson

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I'm in almost the same boat but with GPO instead of WEP. My advisor told me that the retroactive payments would likely be calculated based on your benefit history regardless of future benefit choices. The SSA will probably calculate what you SHOULD have received without WEP and pay you the difference for past months. What complicates things is that spousal benefits have their own rules. You're probably receiving your own benefit now, but after repeal, you might be eligible for the higher spousal benefit going forward. I think the safest approach is to wait for the official guidance once the bill passes, then file for the higher benefit. The retroactive payment should still come to you based on past underpayments.

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Diego Vargas

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my cousin works for SSA and she says they have NO IDEA how they're gonna handle all this if it passes!! they don't even have computer systems ready to process all these claims. gonna be a total mess lol

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CosmicCruiser

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It's all just talk for now anyways! I've been hearing about repealing WEP/GPO for 15 YEARS and nothing ever happens. Don't count on it. Politicians just dangle this carrot before elections then forget about us. I'll believe it when I see the money in my account.

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While I understand your frustration, this time is different. The Social Security Fairness Act has unprecedented bipartisan support with over 300 cosponsors in the House. The legislation has more momentum now than ever before. It's still not guaranteed, but it's much closer to passing than previous attempts.

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Sean Doyle

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Freya Pedersen

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've tried calling SSA twice and spent over an hour on hold each time before getting disconnected. So frustrating! I'll check out that service - getting a definitive answer would really help my anxiety about all this.

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Zara Rashid

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my husband and i both worked for the post office and he gets way more than me even tho we worked same years!! is that this WEP thing too?? should i be getting more??

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Omar Hassan

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No, that's not WEP. WEP affects people who earned pensions from jobs not covered by Social Security (like some teachers, state/local government employees). If you both worked for USPS, you were both paying into Social Security. The difference in benefits is likely due to different salary levels or work histories. You might want to create your own post about this to get more specific help.

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Let me clarify a few technical points: 1. If the Social Security Fairness Act passes in its current form, the WEP repeal would be effective January 2025. 2. For retroactive payments: The bill provides for a gradual phase-out of WEP, with most affected beneficiaries receiving a lump sum payment representing a portion of past reductions. 3. Regarding spousal benefits: You're always entitled to the higher of either your own benefit or up to 50% of your spouse's. Without WEP, your own benefit might increase, but you'd still want to compare it to the spousal benefit. 4. Important timing consideration: If your own benefit (without WEP) is less than the spousal benefit, you could apply for spousal benefits after receiving retroactive payments. The law doesn't require you to choose one or the other. I recommend waiting until the legislation passes, then scheduling an appointment with SSA to review your specific situation. They'll be able to calculate exactly which option maximizes your benefits.

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Chloe Anderson

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This is really helpful information. Would you happen to know if there are any specific provisions in the bill about how quickly the retroactive payments would be distributed? I've heard estimates ranging from a few months to over a year.

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Diego Vargas

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i heard we're supposed to get ALL the money back not just some of it??? my neighbor said her financial guy told her it could be like $40k for some people who've been retired a long time with WEP

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That's not accurate according to the current version of the bill. The Social Security Fairness Act does not provide for full retroactive repayment of all WEP reductions. It includes a partial relief payment and eliminates WEP going forward. The exact amount would vary based on individual circumstances, but complete retroactive repayment of all WEP reductions is not in the current legislation.

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Freya Pedersen

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to wait until the bill actually passes before making any decisions. In the meantime, I'll try to get through to SSA using that Claimyr service someone mentioned to get official guidance on my specific situation. I've been losing sleep over potentially making the wrong decision, but I feel much better now understanding that I should be eligible for both the retroactive payment AND potentially switching to spousal benefits afterward.

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Omar Hassan

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That's definitely the wisest approach. One more thing to keep in mind - when the bill does pass, there will likely be a significant backlog of claims and questions. Getting your information in order now (work history, pension details, etc.) will help you be prepared when the time comes.

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