To address your latest question - yes, you could structure your work seasonally. The earnings test can be applied monthly during your first year of retirement. So if you have some months where you don't work at all (defined as earning less than $1,860/month and working under 45 hours), you can receive full benefits for those specific months, even if you exceed the annual limit. This is called the Monthly Earnings Test and only applies during your first year of retirement. After that, they switch to the Annual Earnings Test regardless of which months you work. Many seasonal workers use this strategy successfully. Just document everything carefully - hours worked, income received, and which months you provided no services to your business.

about the medicare premiums thing. when my dad started collecting SS they automatically refunded his medicare payments that he had already made. took about 6 weeks after his first SS check for the refund to show up. so dont worry about that part.

OMG my friend did her survivor benefits call during a doctors waiting room and regretted it SO MUCH!!!! They ask about income and bank accounts and all kinds of personal stuff. Everyone could hear her! Plus she was stressed and forgot some important details about her husbands work history. Just reschedule!!!

I just want to clarify a couple of technical points that have been mentioned in this thread: 1. For survivor benefits, the SSA will need to verify your marriage duration (minimum 9 months in most cases) and confirm your husband's work credits. 2. You mentioned already applying for SSDI. If you're approved for both benefits, you'll receive the higher of the two amounts, not both. This is called the "dual entitlement rule." 3. If you reschedule, it shouldn't affect your payment start date - survivor benefits can be paid retroactively from your application date. 4. During the call, they'll likely review any potential Medicare enrollment if you're under 65 and qualifying for SSDI. I recommend rescheduling for a time when you can be fully present. While they may already have some information from your disability application, the survivor benefits process has its own specific requirements, and you'll want to be mentally sharp to ensure everything is processed correctly.

Thank you all for the helpful responses! I just spoke with my husband and showed him all this information. We're going to apply this week but make sure his start date is set for April when he reaches FRA. So grateful for the warning about making sure they don't backdate his application - we wouldn't have thought of that! It's such a relief to know he can continue his part-time schedule without worrying about penalties. The Social Security website makes this all seem so much more complicated than it needed to be.

The REAL problem here is that Social Security's rules are needlessly complicated and their website explains things terribly. I had to read books and hire a financial advisor just to figure out the best way to claim. And don't even get me started on their calculators...

my mom did exactly what ur talking about! she took her own benefit at 62 (it was like $1450/month) and then when she hit full retirement age she switched to my dads survivor benefit which was around $2200. worked out great for her. the social security people actually suggested it when she went in to apply after dad died.

One thing nobody's mentioned - you should create your my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can see estimates of both your own benefit and your survivor benefit there. Makes it much easier to compare numbers and figure out the best strategy. Plus you can actually apply online which avoids the nightmare phone system.

Back to the original question - one thing no one mentioned is that if your husband filed for spousal benefits before 70, he wouldn't even get the full spousal amount because he'd be filing early for his spousal benefit. So not only would he permanently reduce his own benefit, but the spousal benefit for those 5 months would be reduced too. Double penalty!

Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! I think we have our answer - my husband should just wait until he turns 70 in September 2025 to file for his benefits and not try to get spousal benefits during those 5 months. It's disappointing that we can't take advantage of this small window, but I understand it's more important to maximize his lifetime benefit. I appreciate all the information!