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Ethan Davis

Will Social Security payments I'm making while working after retirement increase my WEP-reduced benefit?

I started taking my Social Security at 62 (about 8 months ago) and am confused about whether my current work helps me at all. I worked as an elementary school teacher for 20 years in a district that didn't participate in Social Security. Before and after teaching, I had jobs where I did pay into SS - about 14 years total. My monthly benefit is only $920 because of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP). Now I'm working part-time at a bookstore (about 22 hours a week) where I DO pay into Social Security. Will these new earnings help me at all? Can they replace some of those "zero years" in my earnings record and eventually increase my monthly check? Or am I just throwing money away in SS taxes because I'm already receiving benefits? I've tried calling SSA three times but keep getting disconnected after holding for over an hour. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Yuki Tanaka

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Yes, those earnings can potentially help! Social Security recalculates your benefit annually to check if your recent earnings would increase your benefit amount. If your current earnings are higher than one of the years used in your original calculation, they'll replace that lower year and adjust your benefit upward. Since you're subject to WEP, it gets a bit more complex. If you can eventually get to 30 years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security (about $28,050 for 2025), the WEP penalty will be eliminated completely. Each year of substantial earnings you add (even after starting benefits) can help reduce the WEP penalty. Are you also aware that you're subject to the earnings limit since you're under Full Retirement Age? For 2025, if you earn over $22,320, they'll withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit.

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Ethan Davis

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Thank you for this information! I had no idea they recalculate annually - that's encouraging. I'm making about $19,500 at my bookstore job, so I'm under the earnings limit thankfully. I'm confused about the 30 years of "substantial earnings" though. I only had about 14 years of SS-covered work before retiring from teaching. Does that mean if I work 16 more years part-time (until I'm 78?!), I could eliminate the WEP reduction? That seems impossible at my age.

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Carmen Ortiz

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ur not throwing money away!! my husband was a firefighter with pension and had same issue. worked at home depot after retiring and his ss check went up $104 after 2 yrs. they do annual recalculatons every fall i think. dont worry about the earnings limit if ur making under 22k, ur fine

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MidnightRider

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This is completely incorrect information. The annual recalculation is in October, but it's NOT automatic - you have to REQUEST it by contacting SSA directly. Also, the WEP reduction doesn't just disappear because you work a little bit post-retirement. You need SUBSTANTIAL earnings (over $28,000 in 2025) for a total of 30 years to eliminate WEP completely. Partial years won't help nearly as much as the previous commenter suggests.

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Andre Laurent

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I was in almost EXACTLY your situation!!! Taught for 22 years in Ohio (non-SS state) and had about 15 years of SS covered work. Started SS at 62 and got hit HARD by WEP. My initial benefit was only $870!!! Here's what happened to me: I worked part-time at a garden center for 3 years after taking early SS. Each year my benefit went up a tiny bit - like $18-25 per year. Not life-changing but better than nothing. The annual recomputation is real but the increases are modest unless you're earning significantly more now than in your past. The REALLY IMPORTANT thing I learned: if you get to 20 years of substantial SS earnings, WEP reduction is less severe. At 21+ years it keeps improving. You don't need the full 30 years to see SOME improvement. Might be worth seeing if you can gradually build more substantial earnings years.

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Ethan Davis

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Thank you for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to hear from someone in a similar situation. So even getting to 20 years would help reduce the WEP penalty some? That seems more achievable than 30 years. I might be able to work 6 more years to get to 20 total SS years. Do you know if I have to make the full "substantial earnings" amount ($28,050 for 2025) for it to count as a year, or is there some partial credit?

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To answer your specific question about substantial earnings: Yes, you must earn the FULL substantial earnings amount for the year to count toward reducing WEP. For 2025, that's $28,050. If you earn $28,049, it doesn't count as a year of substantial earnings for WEP purposes - there's no partial credit. However, even earnings below that threshold will still be included in your benefit recalculation if they replace a lower year or a zero year in your calculation. So they help in that way even if they don't count toward reducing WEP. Also important: you mentioned working 22 hours weekly at a bookstore. Make sure you're aware that once you reach Full Retirement Age (66+), the earnings limit goes away completely and you can earn unlimited amounts without any reduction in benefits.

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Im confuse about something. My wife also taught for years in california which doesn't do SS. She has some SS years from before teaching. If she works after retiring from teaching, does that help her SS check too? We thought once you start getting SS checks you're locked in forever at that amount no matter what!!

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Mei Wong

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Has anyone actually gotten through to SSA lately? I've been trying for WEEKS about my own WEP issue and can't get a human. Just endless holds and disconnects. So frustrating!!!!

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MidnightRider

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Carmen Ortiz

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my cousin worked for ssa for 30 yrs and she always said the wep is the most complicated thing they deal with!! even the agents get confused about it sometimes lol. just keep working and saving ur money dont count on ss to save u

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Ethan Davis

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I'm going to try to increase my hours at the bookstore to see if I can get closer to the substantial earnings threshold, though $28,050 might be a stretch for part-time work. Even if I can't eliminate the WEP completely, it sounds like there's still value in continuing to work and pay into Social Security. I'll be keeping track of my earnings more carefully now that I understand how this works. And I might try that Claimyr service to finally speak with someone at SSA and get information specific to my situation. Really appreciate all the advice!

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