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ur hubby and mine should talk my husband had that exact surgery they said paralysis might happen but he was up walking 2 days later back to work in 3 months doctors always say the worst case scenario but most ppl do fine

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This is off-topic from the Social Security question being discussed. Let's help the OP with her earnings limit question rather than medical anecdotes.

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To summarize the correct information: 1. Since 2025 is your FRA year, the higher earnings limit ($62,160) applies for the ENTIRE year. 2. For January and February (before you reach FRA), Social Security will deduct $1 for every $3 you earn above that limit. 3. Starting in March when you reach FRA, there is NO earnings limit at all - you can earn any amount without reduction. 4. If you start benefits in January, you'll receive slightly reduced benefits (approximately 1.1% reduction for each month before FRA). Given your husband's health situation, starting in January makes perfect sense. You'll have the security of income if you need to reduce work hours, but still have substantial room to earn under that higher limit if his recovery goes well and you can continue working.

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Thank you for this clear summary. This is exactly what I needed to understand. The permanent reduction for claiming early is small enough that the security of having benefits during this uncertain time seems worth it. I appreciate everyone's help!

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There's a special provision for divorced spouses - you can actually receive benefits on your ex's record if you've been divorced for at least two years, even if he hasn't filed yet, as long as he's eligible (62+). This is called the two-year divorce rule or "independently entitled divorced spouse" provision. Since he's 66 and eligible, you should be able to get your benefits regardless of whether he's filed yet. When you contact SSA, specifically mention this provision if they try to tell you that you have to wait for him to file. Not all representatives are familiar with this rule.

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this is why the system is so broken!!! even their own employees dont know all the rules and give wrong info all the time!! my cousin was told 3 different things by 3 different people at SSA about widow benefits!!

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to try the Claimyr service tomorrow to actually get through to someone. Then I'll specifically ask about the "independently entitled divorced spouse" provision since we've been divorced for 7 years. I'll also look into emergency assistance through my county as a backup plan. Will update here if I make any progress. Fingers crossed I can get this resolved before the alimony stops!

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Good plan. One last tip - when you do speak with SSA, ask them to make a note in your file about your financial hardship due to the alimony ending. While they don't have an official "expedite" process, files with documented hardship sometimes get prioritized. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

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Make sure they check if your ex has multiple exes filing on his record! Many people don't realize there's no 'family maximum' for divorced spouse benefits - each eligible ex-spouse can receive benefits without reducing the others. But it DOES affect survivor benefits later, which is something to keep in mind for future planning.

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whaaaaat?? i didnt know that! i was worried about my ex's new wife affecting my benefit amount. good to know!

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On your call, request a complete breakdown of your benefit calculation in writing. SSA should send you an award letter after your claim is processed, but it doesn't always show the detailed math. Specifically ask for: 1. Your PIA based on your own work record 2. The spousal benefit amount you're eligible for (up to 50% of ex's PIA) 3. The excess amount (the difference between #2 and #1) 4. How continuing to work might change these calculations Keep detailed notes during your call - write down the name and direct extension of anyone helpful that you speak with. If you need clarification later, it's much easier if you can get back to the same person rather than explaining everything to someone new. Also, while your current earnings won't reduce benefits at FRA, they could potentially increase your own PIA if these are high-earning years for you, which might reduce the spousal excess portion (though your total would remain the same or increase).

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This is really thorough, thank you! I'll definitely ask for everything in writing and keep careful notes. My current salary is actually higher than many of my earlier working years, so it sounds like continuing to work might actually increase my own PIA over time. I'll make sure to ask about how that could impact the calculations going forward.

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I don't have advice but I'm in a similar situation. Turned 65 last month and just got laid off after 20 years with the same company. So confusing trying to figure out Medicare + Social Security + job hunting all at the same time. It's overwhelming!!! I'm leaning toward taking SS now because honestly who knows what will happen with the program in the future? Bird in hand and all that...

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For someone just turning 65, you face even more complicated timing decisions with Medicare. Remember that even if you delay Social Security, you should still sign up for Medicare at 65 to avoid late enrollment penalties. You can enroll in Medicare without starting your Social Security benefits.

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After reading all the comments, here's what I'd suggest based on my own experience and financial background: 1. File for benefits now to preserve your savings 2. Continue looking for work (remember, at FRA there's no earnings limit) 3. If you find work within 12 months, consider the withdrawal option if it makes financial sense 4. If your savings are in growth investments, definitely lean toward taking SS now to avoid selling investments in a down market The peace of mind of regular income shouldn't be underestimated either. Retirement is supposed to be a time of reduced stress, not increased anxiety about finances.

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Thank you for this thoughtful summary. I think I'm leaning toward filing now, continuing my job search, and keeping the withdrawal option in my back pocket if I find something soon. That flexibility seems like the best approach given all the uncertainty.

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this is why i tell everyone to record phone calls with ss or get everything in writing!!! they mess up all the time and then we're the ones who suffer

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Based on your additional information, I think you're dealing with two separate issues that might be getting confused: 1. Social Security spousal benefits: If you filed at 69, you should actually get MORE than 50% of your husband's benefit due to delayed retirement credits, not less. The 6-month retroactive payment limitation is correct, unfortunately. 2. Medicare penalties: This is likely a separate issue. The late enrollment penalty for Medicare Part B adds 10% to your premium for each 12-month period you could have had Part B but didn't. However, if you had creditable employer coverage, you should have qualified for a Special Enrollment Period with NO penalty. I suspect the $410 vs $925 difference isn't just about penalties - it might be that they calculated your benefit incorrectly or applied the wrong formula entirely. At this point, I strongly recommend requesting a detailed benefit calculation explanation from SSA in writing. Ask specifically for a breakdown of how they arrived at $410 instead of $925. Once you have that, the error might become clearer and easier to appeal.

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Thank you so much for breaking this down. I think you're right that I'm dealing with multiple issues that got tangled together. I'll request that detailed benefit calculation explanation ASAP. One clarification - my husband was already receiving his benefits when I applied, so I wasn't sure if the delayed credits would apply to spousal benefits in that scenario. The SSA rep said something about my benefit being reduced because I didn't file for Medicare on time, even though I had employer coverage. This whole process has been so confusing. I really appreciate everyone's help and suggestions!

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