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I don't have advice but I'm in a similar situation. Turned 65 last month and just got laid off after 20 years with the same company. So confusing trying to figure out Medicare + Social Security + job hunting all at the same time. It's overwhelming!!! I'm leaning toward taking SS now because honestly who knows what will happen with the program in the future? Bird in hand and all that...

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For someone just turning 65, you face even more complicated timing decisions with Medicare. Remember that even if you delay Social Security, you should still sign up for Medicare at 65 to avoid late enrollment penalties. You can enroll in Medicare without starting your Social Security benefits.

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After reading all the comments, here's what I'd suggest based on my own experience and financial background: 1. File for benefits now to preserve your savings 2. Continue looking for work (remember, at FRA there's no earnings limit) 3. If you find work within 12 months, consider the withdrawal option if it makes financial sense 4. If your savings are in growth investments, definitely lean toward taking SS now to avoid selling investments in a down market The peace of mind of regular income shouldn't be underestimated either. Retirement is supposed to be a time of reduced stress, not increased anxiety about finances.

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Thank you for this thoughtful summary. I think I'm leaning toward filing now, continuing my job search, and keeping the withdrawal option in my back pocket if I find something soon. That flexibility seems like the best approach given all the uncertainty.

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There's a special provision for divorced spouses - you can actually receive benefits on your ex's record if you've been divorced for at least two years, even if he hasn't filed yet, as long as he's eligible (62+). This is called the two-year divorce rule or "independently entitled divorced spouse" provision. Since he's 66 and eligible, you should be able to get your benefits regardless of whether he's filed yet. When you contact SSA, specifically mention this provision if they try to tell you that you have to wait for him to file. Not all representatives are familiar with this rule.

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this is why the system is so broken!!! even their own employees dont know all the rules and give wrong info all the time!! my cousin was told 3 different things by 3 different people at SSA about widow benefits!!

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to try the Claimyr service tomorrow to actually get through to someone. Then I'll specifically ask about the "independently entitled divorced spouse" provision since we've been divorced for 7 years. I'll also look into emergency assistance through my county as a backup plan. Will update here if I make any progress. Fingers crossed I can get this resolved before the alimony stops!

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Good plan. One last tip - when you do speak with SSA, ask them to make a note in your file about your financial hardship due to the alimony ending. While they don't have an official "expedite" process, files with documented hardship sometimes get prioritized. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

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Did you know they might owe you retroactive benefits too? When my sister filed for survivors after her husband passed, they gave her six months of back payments from before she applied! Might be worth asking about.

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Good point, but important clarification: retroactive benefits for survivors are limited to 6 months maximum, and only if you're past full retirement age when you apply. Since the original poster is 64 and not yet at FRA, retroactive benefits wouldn't apply in this specific case. But definitely something to keep in mind for others reading this thread!

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I've decided to schedule an appointment with SSA to discuss my options. I'll gather my documentation (marriage certificate, her death certificate, our birth certificates) before going in. Since I'm earning well above the earnings limit right now, I'll probably wait until closer to my full retirement age before applying, but it's such a relief to know this option exists! I had no idea I could still claim these benefits after all these years.

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this is why i tell everyone to record phone calls with ss or get everything in writing!!! they mess up all the time and then we're the ones who suffer

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Based on your additional information, I think you're dealing with two separate issues that might be getting confused: 1. Social Security spousal benefits: If you filed at 69, you should actually get MORE than 50% of your husband's benefit due to delayed retirement credits, not less. The 6-month retroactive payment limitation is correct, unfortunately. 2. Medicare penalties: This is likely a separate issue. The late enrollment penalty for Medicare Part B adds 10% to your premium for each 12-month period you could have had Part B but didn't. However, if you had creditable employer coverage, you should have qualified for a Special Enrollment Period with NO penalty. I suspect the $410 vs $925 difference isn't just about penalties - it might be that they calculated your benefit incorrectly or applied the wrong formula entirely. At this point, I strongly recommend requesting a detailed benefit calculation explanation from SSA in writing. Ask specifically for a breakdown of how they arrived at $410 instead of $925. Once you have that, the error might become clearer and easier to appeal.

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Thank you so much for breaking this down. I think you're right that I'm dealing with multiple issues that got tangled together. I'll request that detailed benefit calculation explanation ASAP. One clarification - my husband was already receiving his benefits when I applied, so I wasn't sure if the delayed credits would apply to spousal benefits in that scenario. The SSA rep said something about my benefit being reduced because I didn't file for Medicare on time, even though I had employer coverage. This whole process has been so confusing. I really appreciate everyone's help and suggestions!

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Has anyone here actually had success getting through the WEP reduction? My dad just retired from teaching and they cut his SS by almost half and were super nasty about it when he asked questions!!! He worked construction for 15 years before teaching and now they're acting like those years don't count!!!

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It's THEFT, plain and simple! I've written to my congressman 3 times about this and they just send form letters back. The system is rigged against public servants!

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To answer your original question directly: This is NOT double dipping. The Supreme Court has clearly established that survivor benefits and your own retirement benefits are separate entitlements. GPO may reduce the amount, but you are fully entitled to apply for and receive survivor benefits even while receiving your own retirement benefit. One crucial point I should add - you'll want to specifically request a "survivor benefit calculation with GPO consideration" when you contact SSA. Many representatives don't deal with GPO cases regularly and might give incorrect information if you don't use the specific terminology. If your calculated survivor benefit after GPO ends up higher than your current WEP-reduced benefit, they will pay you the difference.

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Thank you for the specific language to use! This will be extremely helpful when I contact SSA. I really appreciate everyone's insights and advice. I feel much more prepared to navigate this complicated situation now.

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