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Will Social Security retirement benefits decrease after years on workers comp? Should I apply for SSDI now?

I've been on workers comp for almost 3 years after falling from scaffolding at my construction job (spinal injury and traumatic brain injury). I'm turning 58 next month and honestly don't think I'll ever get back to work. Two questions keeping me up at night: 1. Will my eventual Social Security retirement amount be reduced because of these years not working and paying into the system? My earnings record was pretty solid before the accident ($78,000-$82,000 annually for about 25 years). 2. Should I apply for SSDI while still receiving workers comp? My doctor says my condition is permanent. Will one affect the other? The workers comp payments are barely covering my mortgage. Honestly confused about how all these systems work together. My brother-in-law said something about an "offset" that might reduce my benefits if I get both? Anyone been through this?

One important point nobody has mentioned yet: if you're approved for SSDI, you'll become eligible for Medicare after 24 months on disability, regardless of your age. This can be extremely valuable for ongoing medical treatment related to your injuries. Also, when you reach Full Retirement Age (67 for someone your age), your SSDI automatically converts to retirement benefits at the same amount. At that point, any offset with workers' compensation ends. For documentation, focus on these key elements for your SSDI application: 1. Medical evidence showing your condition is severe 2. Doctor's statements specifically addressing work limitations 3. Treatment history showing you're following prescribed therapies 4. Detailed work history showing you can no longer perform previous jobs Keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit to SSA. Their record-keeping can be inconsistent.

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Great point about Medicare! That was a HUGE benefit when I finally got approved for SSDI. My employer health insurance had run out and COBRA was ridiculously expensive. The 24-month waiting period is still too long though - another way they try to wear you down!

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Thank you all for the helpful responses. I'm definitely going to apply for SSDI this week. Still a bit confused about how they'll calculate that 80% limit for the offset, but sounds like I'll be dealing with that down the road. Anyone know if I should mention the workers comp when I apply for SSDI, or will they find out about it anyway? Don't want to mess anything up on the application.

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Yes, absolutely disclose your workers' compensation benefits on your SSDI application. SSA will ask about this specifically, and failing to disclose could be considered misrepresentation. They will verify this information regardless through data matching with state agencies. For the 80% ACE (Average Current Earnings) calculation, SSA typically uses the highest of: 1. Your average monthly earnings from your highest calendar year in the last 5 years before disability 2. Your average monthly earnings during the 5 consecutive years of highest earnings 3. Your average monthly earnings in the highest-earning single year of employment They will request your workers' compensation payment history directly to calculate any necessary offset.

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Husband wants to un-retire 6 months after starting Social Security at 65 - can he cancel benefits?

My husband started collecting Social Security retirement benefits in June at age 65, but now we're in a tough spot financially. He drove trucks for 45 years and feels he could easily get back to work for a few more years. We're wondering if it's possible to actually CANCEL his Social Security benefits at this point? I've heard he might have to pay back everything he's received so far, which would be about $10,500. Has anyone gone through this process of 'withdrawing' a Social Security application after already receiving payments? What forms did you need to fill out? Did they make you pay back everything immediately or offer a payment plan? Just trying to figure out if this option is even realistic before he starts job hunting again.

no u dont have to tell them before working!! just report it on taxes. thats what i do and im way over the limit. they just send me a letter once a year saying they adjusted my benefit.

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One clarification on the earnings limit - truck drivers need to be careful about how they calculate their income. If your husband is an independent contractor (1099 worker), SSA counts net earnings from self-employment, not gross income. If he's a W-2 employee, they count gross wages. This difference can significantly impact how much is withheld. Also, only income from actual work counts toward the earnings limit. Investment income, pension payments, or other government benefits don't count against the limit. From what you've described, having him work while receiving reduced benefits probably makes more financial sense than withdrawing the application entirely.

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Will Social Security Fairness Act let me collect 100% of late husband's benefits despite GPO pension?

So confused about the new Social Security Fairness Act and what it means for me! I'm a teacher with a state pension who lost my husband in 2010. Because of that stupid GPO (Government Pension Offset), I've never been able to claim any of his Social Security benefits despite paying into the system myself for years before teaching. Now with this new law passing, I'm trying to figure out my options. Can I now collect 100% of my late husband's SS survivor benefits while letting my own SS benefits continue to grow until I turn 70? Or is there some kind of tiered percentage I'd get? Also, I saw something about it being retroactive to January 2024. Does that mean I could get some back payments? I'm 67 now and planning retirement next year, so this could completely change my financial situation. Any insights from people who've dealt with GPO and the new changes would be SO appreciated!

Does anyone know if you'll get the increased benefits AUTOMATICALLY or do we have to reapply? I don't trust the SSA to just adjust everything properly!

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From what I understand, if you're already receiving reduced benefits due to WEP/GPO, SSA should recalculate and adjust your payments automatically. But if you were completely offset by GPO before (getting $0 in benefits), you would need to apply since you weren't in the system receiving payments. In the OP's case, since she wasn't receiving any benefits due to the full offset, she would need to submit an application for survivor benefits. That said, with a change this big affecting millions of beneficiaries, there could be delays in implementation. I'd recommend applying or contacting SSA regardless to ensure you're in their system for the adjustments.

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My cousin works for the SS office and she told me that Jan. 1st 2026 is when the 100% starts not this year.

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Your cousin is correct that January 1, 2026 is when the GPO is fully eliminated (100% gone). But the phase-out begins earlier: - January 1, 2024: GPO reduction decreases from 2/3 of pension to 40% of pension (so you get more now) - January 1, 2025: GPO reduction decreases to 20% of pension (you get even more) - January 1, 2026: GPO completely eliminated (you get full benefits) So the original poster can definitely get some benefits now, just not 100% of her husband's benefit until 2026.

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Social Security survivor benefits after ex-spouse death - work until 70 or claim now with health issues?

Just found out my ex-husband passed away in April and I'm trying to figure out my Social Security options. I'm 64, divorced (marriage lasted 21 years, divorced for 20), and never remarried. I work full-time at a job I've had for 16 years that pays well, but my health isn't great lately. I know my FRA is 67 and I can earn unlimited income while collecting at that point. But what are the advantages of waiting until 70? With my ex passing, do I qualify for survivor benefits even though we've been divorced so long? Should I keep working and delay benefits given my health concerns? I'm trying to balance maximizing my benefit amount versus the reality that my health might limit how long I'll collect. Any advice from those who've navigated this type of situation?

Since you mentioned your health isn't the best, here's another strategy to consider: Apply for reduced survivor benefits now, but ALSO apply for SSDI (disability benefits). If approved for SSDI, you'd receive your full retirement benefit amount without reduction. The SSDI approval process is lengthy and often involves appeals, but it's worth pursuing if your health condition is documented and severe enough to limit your ability to work. You can apply for both benefits simultaneously. This approach gives you some income now through survivor benefits while potentially securing your full retirement rate through SSDI if your health deteriorates further.

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Can you really apply for SSDI if you're currently working full-time? I thought that automatically disqualified you?

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You're right - if you're engaging in Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA), currently $1,550/month in 2025 for non-blind individuals, you wouldn't qualify for SSDI. I should have been clearer that this option would only work if the health issues forced a reduction in work hours or stopping work entirely.

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Thank you all for the helpful advice. I've scheduled an appointment with SSA (took forever to get through) to review my specific numbers. Going to get documentation of all my options before making a decision. I think I'm leaning toward taking the survivor benefit now and then switching to my own retirement benefit at 70, but I want to see the actual dollar amounts first. Will update once I have more information!

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Good luck with your appointment! Hope you get someone who knows what they're talking about!

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Can I get Social Security spousal benefits with $719 retirement vs husband's $4100 benefit?

I've been trying to figure out if I qualify for additional Social Security benefits through my husband's record. I'm 70 years old now and started collecting my own Social Security at my full retirement age (66 and 2 months for me). My husband waited until he turned 70 to file for his benefits. My monthly check is only $719, while his is $4100. I've heard something about 'spousal top-off' benefits but I'm confused about whether I qualify since I'm already receiving my own benefits. Does anyone know if I can get a higher payment based on my husband's record? Would it make a difference that we're both already collecting? Thanks in advance for any help!

My aunt just went thru this exact thing last yr. SSA gave her a nice chunk of backpay for 6 months plus her monthly check went up by like $800 or something. She was so mad nobody told her sooner!

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This is EXACTLY why the system is broken!!! They KNOW when people qualify for higher benefits but they don't TELL them!!! It's like they WANT people to miss out on money they deserve!!! They should automatically calculate and pay the higher amount!!!

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One more important point - when you call SSA, specifically ask for the "spousal benefit" or "spouse's benefit" by name. Sometimes if you just say you want to see if you can get a higher benefit, the representative might not check all options. Be sure to mention that your husband's benefit is significantly higher than yours and you believe you qualify for a spousal top-up benefit. Write down the name of the representative you speak with and ask for a confirmation number for your application.

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That's excellent advice! I'll make sure to use those exact terms and get the representative's name and a confirmation number. I don't want anything to fall through the cracks.

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