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Social Security spousal benefits denied after GPO repeal - Medicare eligibility confusion
I'm completely confused about my Social Security spousal benefits situation after the GPO repeal. I have a state teacher's pension ($4,250/month) where I didn't pay into Social Security. I don't have the 40 quarters needed for my own SS benefits. When I turned 65 last year, I got Medicare through my husband's earnings record. The letter from SSA even stated: "You are entitled to monthly benefits as a dependent of the wage earner." So after the Social Security Fairness Act passed and GPO was repealed, I immediately applied for spousal benefits based on my husband's record. I just got notification that my application was DENIED! I'm still waiting for the explanation letter. I'm so confused - if I already qualified as a dependent for Medicare purposes, why would they deny my spousal benefits now that GPO is gone? Did the Medicare application somehow already establish a spousal benefit claim that's affecting this? Does anyone understand what might be happening here?
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Will Social Security retirement benefit projections increase after adding 2024 higher salary to earnings record?
Hello everyone, I'm trying to figure out how my SS retirement benefit might change. I received a significant promotion late last year, and my 2024 salary is about 22% higher than what I earned in 2023. I haven't started taking Social Security yet (I'm 58), but I've been checking my projected benefits on the SSA website. Will my estimated monthly retirement benefit increase once my 2024 earnings are added to my record? Or are those projections already somehow accounting for potential future income? The current estimate seems low given my new salary. Any insights would be appreciated!
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my neighbor worked for the post office and had the same question when she got promoted. she said her benefit estimate went up about $200/month after her higher salary was recorded but it took almost a year to show up in the system. might be different for you tho.
One more thing to consider: If you're within a few years of retirement, you might want to check whether your 2024 earnings will replace one of your 35 highest years. If you've consistently earned a good income throughout your career, a single year's increase may have less impact than if you have some lower-earning or zero years in your calculation. You can see your year-by-year earnings history in your my Social Security account to get a better idea of how significant this increase might be to your overall calculation.
That's a really good point. I do have about 5 years early in my career where I earned very little (was in graduate school and working part-time). I'm guessing the new salary will definitely replace one of those years in the calculation. I'll check my year-by-year history to see exactly how it might impact things.
Will I get reduced Social Security spousal benefits from my ex-husband who's turning 64 when I'm at FRA?
I'm planning to file for Social Security when I reach my full retirement age next year (I'll be 67 in February). I was married for 23 years and want to claim on my ex-husband's record since his benefit is higher than mine. The tricky part is that he'll only be 64 when I file at my FRA. I know if I filed early, MY benefits would be reduced, but will I receive reduced benefits because HE hasn't reached his FRA yet? The SSA website is confusing me on this point. Does his age affect what I'll get if I'm already at my full retirement age? Does he even need to have filed for his own benefits for me to claim ex-spousal benefits?
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My friend tried to do this but found out her ex had barely worked under social security because he was a teacher with a pension. She ended up getting almost nothing from his record. Do you know if your ex worked consistently under Social Security?
Yes, he worked for a large corporation for over 35 years, all under Social Security. No pension or anything like that to complicate things, thankfully!
One final tip - when you do file, make sure to specifically tell SSA you want to file for divorced spouse benefits. Sometimes they don't check automatically even though they should. Bring your marriage certificate and divorce decree to your appointment. You might also need his Social Security number, but if you don't have it, SSA can usually find it with his name and date of birth.
This is really helpful advice. I do have his SSN from some old tax returns, and I have copies of our marriage and divorce paperwork. I'll make sure to specifically request the divorced spouse benefit evaluation when I file.
Social Security timing question: Filing at 66 vs. FRA in April 2025 - working with employer insurance
My husband wants to file for Social Security retirement in January 2025, but his Full Retirement Age isn't until April 2025. I checked the benefit estimator and it shows he'd get about $200 less monthly if he files in January instead of waiting until April. So I think I'm answering my own question - he should probably just wait those extra 3 months, right? I'm also confused about Medicare requirements. He's working full-time with health insurance through his employer (company has over 20 employees). Does he HAVE to enroll in Medicare when he starts collecting Social Security? Can he keep his work insurance? And what about income limits? Once he reaches FRA in April, can he earn as much as he wants without any reduction in benefits? Or are there still earnings limits after FRA? This whole system feels like a complicated maze! Thanks for any guidance.
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My husband was in this EXACT situation!!! His bday is in March but he waited till June to file (FRA) because we heard horror stories about the SSA messing up people's payment amounts when they file right at their birthday month! So we waited a few extra months just to be safe. Dunno if thats really necessary but we didnt want any mistakes!!!!
Smart move. My cousin filed exactly on his birthday month and SSA somehow calculated his first check wrong. Took 5 months to fix! Sometimes the extra caution pays off. The system makes so many mistakes.
One other thing to consider - since your husband is still working at a good salary, his Social Security benefit amount might actually increase slightly if his current earnings are higher than some earlier years in his earnings record. SSA uses the highest 35 years of indexed earnings to calculate benefits. This is especially true if he had any years with low earnings or gaps in his work history. Each additional high-earning year can bump out a lower year in the calculation. So waiting those extra months could potentially increase his benefit by more than just avoiding the early filing reduction.
I hadn't even thought about this aspect! His current salary is definitely higher than what he made 30+ years ago, even adjusted for inflation. This is yet another reason to wait. Thank you for pointing this out!
Caught between SS Disability denial and early retirement at 63 - with disabled husband and no income since October
I'm in a really tough spot and don't know what to do anymore. I'm 63 and have been unable to work since mid-2022 due to congestive heart failure. My cardiologist has permanently restricted me from returning to my nursing job of 30+ years. I initially received short-term disability through my employer for 6 months, then transitioned to long-term disability insurance with Principal Financial. They required me to apply for SSDI about 2 years ago, which has resulted in two denials so far. I finally got a hearing scheduled for February 14th, but just found out it's been postponed until JULY due to some administrative backlog! Meanwhile, Principal Financial suddenly terminated my LTD benefits in December claiming I could do "sedentary work from home" despite my doctor's documentation. I've had ZERO income since December and my emergency savings are nearly gone. To make things worse, my husband (69) was just diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer and starts intensive treatment next week. He's on Medicare but the supplemental costs are still substantial. I know I could apply for early retirement benefits instead of waiting for my FRA at 67, but every time I try to research what my payment would be, I only find SSDI information. Would starting early retirement benefits now hurt my disability case? Can I switch to higher disability benefits if eventually approved? I called the SSA office but can't get an appointment until March! Should I hire an attorney at this point? I was planning to work until 67 but clearly life had other plans. Any advice would be deeply appreciated.
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Have you looked into your state's emergency assistance programs? Some states have emergency funds for people waiting on SSDI decisions. Also check with your county's Department of Social Services - they might have emergency housing assistance to help with your mortgage payment. Don't be too proud to apply for SNAP benefits (food stamps) too - that's what these programs are for!
Thank you for these suggestions. I haven't looked into state assistance yet - it feels strange needing help after working my whole life, but you're right that pride won't pay the bills. I'll look into SNAP and emergency assistance programs tomorrow.
One more important thing to consider: If you take early retirement at 63, your benefit is reduced by about 20-25% permanently. However, if your SSDI is approved later, you'll receive the full disability benefit (which equals your FRA benefit amount with no reduction). The difference between these amounts over years could be significant. For context: If your FRA benefit would be $2,000/month, early retirement at 63 might give you around $1,500/month permanently. But SSDI would give you the full $2,000/month, plus back pay for the waiting period. That's a $500/month difference for the rest of your life. Have you checked your estimated benefit amount on your my Social Security account at ssa.gov? That would give you a better idea of what you're looking at financially.
this is so true! my aunt took early retirement and got stuck with the reduced amount forever. she had no idea that waiting would have given her almost $600 more every month! that adds up to thousands of dollars over the years.
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Omar Fawaz
UPDATE: My mom finally got through to someone and they told her the GPO repeal benefits start paying out in JULY 2025! So even though the law passed, they're still denying applications until then. Did anyone else hear this???
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Diego Rojas
This is correct. While the Social Security Fairness Act was signed into law, the actual implementation date for benefit payments is July 2025. SSA is currently working on updating their systems and procedures. You should still apply (or have your reconsideration on file) so you're in the system when the payments begin, but actual payments affected by the GPO repeal won't start until July 2025.
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