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Taking Social Security at 62 with a minor child - family benefits now vs higher payments at 70?

My husband just hit 62 last month and we've hit a crossroads with his Social Security benefits. We originally planned for him to wait until 70 to maximize his monthly amount, but just discovered something that's making us reconsider. If he files NOW, both our 13-year-old daughter and I (as her caretaker) would qualify for auxiliary benefits for the next 5 years until she turns 18. After that, he'd be locked into the lower payment amount permanently instead of the higher amount he'd get at 70. Our financial situation isn't great. Hubby works in mortgage lending (commission only) and his income has been really unpredictable the last 3 years with interest rates all over the place. I work part-time and we rent out rooms in our house to make ends meet, but we're still drowning in about $37,000 of credit card debt from when he was unemployed in 2023. I've run some rough calculations and think taking benefits now WITH the child/caretaker benefits would equal more lifetime SS income if my husband lives to his early 80s. But I'm second-guessing myself. Would it be smarter to: 1. Take the early benefits now, use the extra to pay down debt, then maybe invest afterward? 2. Or struggle through 8 more years until he turns 70 for that permanently higher monthly amount? We have about $195,000 in retirement accounts but really don't want to touch that. Any advice from folks who've been in similar situations?

I was in a similar position a few years back. Getting those family benefits made a HUGE difference for us, especially with the debt we were carrying. But one thing I wish someone had told me - document EVERYTHING. Keep copies of all your application paperwork, confirmation numbers, the names of any SSA reps you speak with, etc. When my son turned 18, there was a mess with stopping his benefits that took months to sort out because the SSA claimed they never received some paperwork I KNOW I submitted. The system is so backed up and understaffed that errors happen constantly.

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That's really good advice, thank you. I'll make sure to keep careful records of everything. Did your overall experience with taking the family benefits work out positively despite the paperwork issues?

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Overall, yes, it was absolutely worth it for us. The family benefits helped us pay off about $42,000 in debt over three years, which gave us so much more financial freedom. My husband's reduced benefit is enough for our needs now that our expenses are lower without the debt payments. The paperwork headaches were frustrating but temporary. One thing we did that really helped - we pretended the family benefits didn't exist for our day-to-day budget and used them ONLY for debt paydown. Made it easier when those extra payments stopped.

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I was in a similar situation but reversed (I'm female). Started widow benefits at 60 and they were about 70% of what I would've gotten at FRA. But it was worth it for me because I needed the income. One thing no one mentioned - if you're planning to work past 60 while collecting, remember those benefits will be reduced if you earn over the limit (which was around $19k when I started but is higher now). For every $2 over the limit, they take $1 from your benefits.

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That's really helpful to know about the exact percentage reduction! I am planning to keep working, so I'll need to calculate carefully whether taking reduced benefits at 60 makes sense with the earnings limit. Do you know if the money they withhold due to excess earnings is permanently lost, or do they adjust your benefit amount later?

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Good question about withheld benefits due to excess earnings! Those benefits aren't permanently lost. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, Social Security will recalculate your benefit amount to give you credit for the months when benefits were withheld. It's essentially a recoupment over time. But also consider: if your own retirement benefit will ultimately be higher than the widow benefit, and you plan to switch to your own benefit at FRA anyway, it might be worth analyzing whether taking a reduced widow benefit that's further reduced by the earnings test makes financial sense. Sometimes waiting until you're closer to FRA or working part-time to stay under the earnings limit can be more advantageous.

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That's excellent information! I didn't realize they recalculate at FRA. I'll need to do some math to figure out the optimal strategy for my situation. Really appreciate all this knowledge - it's helping me understand my options much better.

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Quick question - does anyone know if the 9 month requirement is 9 calendar months or exactly 270 days? My friend is in a similar situation and her SSA office gave her conflicting info about how they count it.

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It's typically 9 calendar months, not exactly 270 days. For example, if married January 15th and spouse died October 15th, that would qualify as 9 months even though the actual number of days varies depending on which months are included. However, if you're very close to the cutoff, having documentation of the exact dates is crucial.

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Update: I called SSA again today and finally got through after a 2.5 hour wait! The agent confirmed I do qualify for survivor benefits since we were married exactly 9 months. She said I can receive 100% of his benefit amount since I'm at full retirement age for survivors. I have an appointment next week to complete the application. Thank you everyone for your help and advice!

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That's excellent news! Make sure to bring your marriage certificate, his death certificate, and both of your Social Security cards/numbers to the appointment. Also bring your birth certificate and a direct deposit form with your banking information to ensure smooth processing. Wishing you all the best during this difficult time.

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glad u got good news! sorry again about ur husband ❤️

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they asked me for a letter from his doctor about his care needs and why he cant be left alone. i also gave them his guardianship papers and IEP from when he was in school showing his severe disability. and my work schedule showing i only work part time now to care for him

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does anyone know if this works if youre the grandparent? my daughter passed and i take care of her disabled son who gets her survivor benefits...

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To answer the recent question - grandparents can qualify for this benefit in place of parents if they are the legal guardian providing care for a disabled individual receiving survivor benefits. The same criteria apply regarding care requirements and work limitations. One important note for everyone: If approved, the Mother's/Father's benefit is generally 75% of the deceased person's primary insurance amount, but may be reduced by the family maximum benefit limit if multiple people receive benefits on the same earnings record. This is something to be aware of when calculating potential benefit amounts.

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That's good to know about the 75% amount. In our case, it's just my son and potentially me receiving benefits on his father's record, so hopefully we wouldn't hit the family maximum. I'm going to gather all our documentation and try to get an appointment at the local office.

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Just my 2 cents - everybody's situation is different. My wife and I decided I'd file at 62 and she'd wait til 70 since her benefit was bigger. Worked great for us, we're 15 years into retirement and no regrets. Health problems can change everything tho so dont just think about the math, think about QUALITY OF LIFE!!

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That's a good perspective, thank you. Were there any unexpected issues you ran into with your strategy that I should be aware of? Did your wife's larger benefit at 70 end up being worth the wait?

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Absolutely worth it! Her benefit at 70 was nearly DOUBLE what it would've been at 62. The only surprise was Medicare premiums - they're higher than we expected and keep going up every year. But having one bigger check helps with that.

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Has anyone mentioned survivor benefits yet? This is HUGE in your planning! When one spouse dies, the surviving spouse basically continues with the HIGHER of the two benefit amounts. So if you delay till 70 and get say $4200/month, then pass away, your husband would get that $4200/month for the rest of HIS life (assuming it's higher than his own benefit). So even if you delay and don't live super long, your husband could benefit from your higher amount for DECADES, especially with that 3 year age difference. This is especially important with his WEP situation limiting his own benefit.

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This is so important! My friend's husband delayed till 70 then died at 74. She was devastated BUT she's now getting his maximum benefit at age 82 and will for many more years. His delaying ended up being a gift to her.

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