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One more consideration: If you're planning to stop working before your FRA, you might recalculate. Let's say you decide to stop working in August 2025, a few months after turning 66. You could apply for survivor benefits then, and the earnings test would only apply to the months in 2025 before you reach FRA. The SSA would use a monthly earnings test calculation rather than annual for the year you retire mid-year. This might make taking survivors before your exact FRA worthwhile, depending on exactly when you stop working.

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oh thats good to know! i didnt realize they did monthly calculations in the year you retire. wish someone told me that when i was figuring this out!!

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Thank you all for such thoughtful responses! Based on everyone's advice, I think waiting until FRA makes the most sense in my situation since I don't need the extra income now and it avoids the complications with the earnings test. I'll use my SSA appointment to confirm the exact date of my FRA for survivor benefits and get more details about making the switch to my own benefits at 70. Really appreciate all the insights!

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If you're struggling to reach someone at Social Security to get clarification on the earnings limit, try using Claimyr (claimyr.com). It helped me get through to an agent in under 10 minutes after spending days trying to reach someone. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU I had a similar earnings limit question with my husband retiring early, and getting clear answers directly from SSA saved us from making a costly mistake. Totally worth it to speak with someone who can look at your specific situation rather than trying to figure out these complicated rules on your own.

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Is that service legit? I've been trying to get through to SSA for over a week! How does it actually work?

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Yes, it's legit! It basically calls SSA for you and navigates the phone tree, then alerts you when an agent is about to pick up. Much better than sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. Saved me tons of time and frustration.

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To answer your follow-up questions about bonuses and timing: 1. For year-end bonuses: Under Social Security rules, bonuses count when they're earned, not when they're paid. However, a year-end performance bonus is typically considered earned when it's paid. So if your husband receives a bonus in December 2025, that would likely count toward December's earnings. 2. Regarding starting benefits in January 2026: If he begins benefits in January 2026, that becomes his "grace year" and he can use the monthly earnings test for all of 2026. This means he could earn any amount in January-November but still receive benefits for any month he earns under the monthly limit (which will be slightly higher in 2026 due to COLA). These earnings test rules are genuinely confusing, so it's smart to plan carefully. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA about 3-4 months before your husband plans to retire to discuss your specific situation.

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! Based on everyone's advice, I think we'll have him retire in December 2025 and start benefits in January 2026. That way, we can use the monthly earnings test throughout 2026 as he transitions to part-time consulting work. I really appreciate everyone's help with this complicated topic. We'll definitely schedule that appointment with SSA to confirm our understanding before making any final decisions.

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My friend's situation was kinda similar and I think there was a surprise with how much she got so def have your husband ask very specific questions during his phone appt! Good luck

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Yes!! Make sure he SPECIFICALLY asks: "If I wait until FRA to file, would I receive a higher total benefit through the combination of my own benefit plus a spousal supplement?" The answers they give are often so vague unless you ask exactly the right question!

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Just to clarify one more point that sometimes confuses people: The decision about when to file is separate for each of you. You've already filed, but your husband still has options. If your husband files at 62, he gets approximately 70% of his FRA benefit (the $749). If he waits until FRA, he gets 100% of his FRA benefit (probably around $1070). If he waits until 70, he gets 132% of his FRA benefit (around $1412). The spousal benefit doesn't increase after FRA, so there's no spousal advantage to waiting beyond FRA. But his own benefit continues to grow until 70. Since his own benefit is already higher than the reduced spousal benefit, waiting longer would just increase that gap.

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This is really helpful information. We need the income now, so waiting isn't really an option for us, but it's good to understand exactly what the tradeoff is. I appreciate everyone helping me understand how this actually works!

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Something else to consider - has your sister checked her own Social Security record lately??? My friend thought her benefit would be really small because of her government job, but when she actually checked her SS statement online, it was higher than she expected because of all the years she paid in. Your sister should create a my Social Security account on ssa.gov if she hasn't already!!! That way she'll know her own benefit amount before even talking to anyone.

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Excellent suggestion. Creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov is essential for anyone approaching retirement age. The benefit estimates shown there will help your sister make a more informed decision. However, one caution - the online estimates don't always correctly account for things like WEP/GPO reductions. They give a good starting point, but the final calculation should be confirmed with an SSA representative who can properly apply any applicable reductions.

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i think everyones overthinking this lol. just have her apply and see what they say. my aunt got dinged with gpo and still got like $400 a month from my uncles record. anything is better than nothing right?

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It's not overthinking when we're talking about THOUSANDS of dollars in potential benefits!!! Getting the right strategy can literally mean the difference between getting benefits or nothing at all. But I agree she should definitely apply either way!!!

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wait im confused about something... if shes born in 1964 isnt her regular FRA 67 not 66 and 8 months? why are there different FRAs for different benefits?? thats so confusing!

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Great question! There actually ARE different Full Retirement Ages for different benefit types. For people born in 1964: - Regular retirement/disability FRA: 67 - Widow/Survivor FRA: 66 and 8 months This is because Congress set different FRA rules for survivor benefits than for retirement benefits. It's confusing, but important for planning. This age difference creates the unique opportunity for someone in this situation to file a restricted application for just widow's benefits at 66+8mo while letting their own retirement benefit continue growing until 70.

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Thank you all for the amazingly helpful advice! I've made notes of everything and have a much clearer plan now: 1. Get specific benefit amounts from SSA (what my SSDI converts to at 67, projected amount at 70, and widow's benefit at 66+8mo) 2. At 66+8mo, file restricted application SPECIFICALLY for widow's benefits only if they're higher than my SSDI 3. At 70, reassess and take whichever is higher - my maximized retirement or the widow's benefit I'll use that Claimyr service to actually reach SSA since the regular phone line has been impossible. I'll update when I have more information, in case it helps someone else in a similar situation.

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