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My neighbor was in construction too, waited til 67 to retire and had a heart attack 3 months later!!! Spent his last year in and out of hospitals. What good did those extra dollars do him? NONE. The system is rigged to make us work ourselves to death.
I'm very sorry about your neighbor. While anecdotes like this are powerful, it's important to balance them with comprehensive planning. Each person's health situation, financial needs, and family longevity is different. That said, quality of life considerations should absolutely factor into retirement timing decisions. A balanced approach considers both financial security and well-being.
One thing no one's mentioned yet - have you considered the impact on your spouse if something happened to you? If you claim early and pass away before her, her survivor benefit would be based on your reduced amount (though there are some special rules that might apply). If you think she might rely on your benefit as a survivor someday, waiting for a higher amount might be worth considering. On the other hand, if she'll always use her own higher benefit amount, then this is less of a concern. Just something else to factor into your decision.
That's a really important point I hadn't thought about. Given the health issues in my family history, the survivor benefit could matter. Though as you said, her own benefit is substantially higher than mine would be even at FRA, so she'd probably continue on her own benefit if I passed first. But definitely something to consider in the overall picture.
One more thing to consider: if you can't qualify for survivor benefits based on this marriage, check if you might qualify based on your previous marriage if it lasted at least 10 years. If you were married to your ex for 10+ years, you could potentially claim survivor benefits on his record when he passes (or even spousal benefits if he's still living and you're both old enough). Also, when you apply, bring any evidence that you held yourselves out as married to the community - joint bank accounts, insurance policies listing each other as spouses, deeds or leases showing both names, even holiday cards addressed to you as a married couple. SSA looks at the totality of circumstances in cases like yours.
Unfortunately my previous marriage only lasted 8 years, so that won't help. But the tip about bringing evidence we presented ourselves as married is super helpful! I have plenty of that - insurance policies, joint accounts, even our wills that refer to each other as spouses. I'll gather all of that before applying. Thank you!
wait im confused now... so if her husband takes survivor benefits at 60 but keeps working until 62, would he lose some of those payments? and does the survivor benefit amount depend on when she dies or is it always the same?
Let me clarify both points: 1. Yes, if he claims survivor benefits before his FRA while still working, the earnings test would apply. For 2025, he can earn approximately $22,320 before benefits are affected. Above that, $1 in benefits is withheld for every $2 earned. So if he's earning substantially more than that limit, some or all of his survivor benefits could be temporarily withheld. 2. The survivor benefit amount is based on several factors: - If the deceased was already receiving benefits, the survivor benefit is generally based on that amount - If the deceased wasn't receiving benefits, it's based on what they would have received at their FRA - The survivor's age when they claim affects the percentage they receive (reduced if claiming before their own FRA) In the original poster's case, since she's already receiving SSDI, her husband's survivor benefit would be based on her current benefit amount (potentially with adjustments), then reduced if he claims before his FRA.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! Based on your responses, it sounds like our plan makes sense. My husband will probably wait until he actually retires at 62 to claim any survivor benefits (if I pass away before then) to avoid the earnings test issues. Then he can still switch to his own benefit at 70. Can anyone recommend the best way to get this strategy confirmed officially with SSA? Should we make an appointment at our local office or is there a specific department we should call?
For complex claiming strategies like this, I'd recommend scheduling an in-person appointment at your local SSA office. Bring documentation showing both your current SSDI benefit amount and your husband's latest Social Security statement showing his projected benefits at different ages. When you make the appointment, specifically request to speak with a "Technical Expert" rather than a regular Claims Representative. Technical Experts have more specialized training on complex benefits scenarios. You might also want to print relevant sections from SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) about survivor benefits and switching between benefit types. This is the internal rulebook SSA employees use, and having the exact references can help ensure you get accurate information. The relevant sections are DI 10115 for SSDI conversion to survivor benefits and RS 00615 for switching between different benefit types. Finally, get any advice in writing if possible, or take detailed notes including the name of the SSA representative you speak with.
Quick follow-up on my earlier response: when you go back to SSA, ask specifically about the "restricted application" for survivor benefits. This is the technical term for what you want to do - restricting your application to ONLY the survivor benefit while letting your own retirement benefit grow. Also, you should know that survivor benefits taken before your Full Retirement Age are reduced for early claiming (unlike switching to your own benefit at 70, which doesn't get penalized). Since you're turning 65 and your FRA is 66 and 10 months, that $1,850 figure already includes the early claiming reduction. If you waited until your FRA to claim the survivor benefit, it would be slightly higher, but that's rarely the optimal financial strategy when your own benefit will exceed the survivor benefit eventually.
This is incredibly helpful information! I'll definitely use the term "restricted application" when I go back. Do you happen to know if I need to bring any special documentation with me when I apply for the survivor benefit? I have my husband's death certificate and our marriage certificate already.
Those documents are the main ones you'll need. Also bring your own ID, birth certificate if you have it (though they may already have this on file), and your Social Security card. If you've been married before for 10+ years, bring documentation about those marriages too, as you might qualify for benefits on those records as well. And definitely bring a notepad to write down the name of who you speak with and summary of advice given.
Giovanni Gallo
my moms payment went up but my dads didnt change either! they told him its because his medicare premium also went up by almost the same amount as the cola so it looked like no change in the final deposit. maybe check if ur husbands medicare premium changed?
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Zoe Christodoulou
•That's actually a really good point! I'll check his Medicare premium. He did change some prescription coverage during open enrollment so maybe that affected things.
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Mei Chen
Just to follow up on some of the great suggestions here: 1. Definitely check both your and your husband's Medicare premiums, as premium increases can offset COLA increases. 2. If your husband receives SSDI and you receive retirement benefits, they may process on different schedules. SSDI COLA adjustments sometimes process separately from retirement benefit adjustments. 3. The $120 payment could be: - A retroactive COLA adjustment - An underpayment correction - Your husband's COLA being paid separately - An adjustment related to earnings record updates If this doesn't resolve by next month's payment, or if you need clarity sooner, contacting SSA directly is your best option. Your MySocialSecurity account should eventually show an explanation in the message center, but these notices can be delayed by 1-2 weeks after payments are made.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! I'll check all those possibilities. My husband did work part-time last year, so maybe there's some earnings record update happening too. I'll wait until next month to see if things normalize before spending hours on the phone with SSA.
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