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I got confused about SSI vs SSDI vs retirement benefits when I was researching this. They all have different rules about working! Make sure you're looking at the retirement benefit rules which is what we're talking about here.

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Lucy Lam

Good point! To clarify for everyone: - Social Security retirement benefits: Based on your work history, specifically your highest 35 years of earnings - SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance): Also based on your work history, but has strict rules about working while receiving benefits - SSI (Supplemental Security Income): Needs-based program with income and asset limits, not based on work history The original question is specifically about retirement benefit calculations.

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As someone who made a similar career transition at 56, I can share my experience. I left a high-stress corporate job for a lower-paying but more fulfilling role in nonprofit work. After checking my Social Security statement, I realized I had 33 years of earnings, so even the lower salary would help fill out my 35-year calculation rather than hurt it. The peace of mind and better work-life balance have been absolutely worth it. I'm now 61 and plan to work until 68, which will give me those delayed retirement credits mentioned by others. Sometimes the non-financial benefits of a career change outweigh the pure dollars and cents - especially when you understand how the Social Security calculation actually works. Good luck with your decision!

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@Zane Gray This is exactly what I needed to hear! Your situation sounds so similar to mine - I m'also looking at potentially 9 more years of work if I go to 67, which should give me plenty of time to make up for any lower earnings in these final years. The fact that you had 33 years of earnings vs (my 31 and) still felt confident about the switch really helps put this in perspective. I keep going back and forth on the decision, but hearing real experiences like yours makes me feel like I m'not crazy for prioritizing quality of life. Thank you for taking the time to share!

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@Zane Gray This resonates with me so much! I m'55 and in a similar position - considering leaving my high-pressure consulting job for something in the education sector that pays about 30% less. Like you, I ve'been losing sleep over the financial implications, but your experience shows it can work out. I m'curious - did you do any specific financial planning or budgeting adjustments before making the switch? I m'trying to figure out if I need to drastically change my lifestyle or if the reduced expenses from less work stress eating (out less, fewer medical issues, etc. help) balance things out. Your timeline of working until 68 also seems really smart for maximizing those delayed credits while still getting to enjoy several years of less stressful work.

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Just to provide a bit more context on why this system exists this way: The intention of SSDI is to provide income to those who cannot work due to disability, essentially replacing the income you would have earned until retirement age. The intention of delayed retirement credits is to compensate people for delaying the start of their benefits. Since SSDI recipients already receive benefits early, the system doesn't allow for both advantages (early receipt and delayed credits). There's no way to "pause" SSDI at FRA and then restart as retirement at 70 with increases.

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That explanation really puts it in perspective. I guess it would be double-advantaged to get benefits early AND get the delayed credits. When you put it that way, the system makes more sense. I appreciate everyone's help in understanding how this works!

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Mei Liu

As someone new to this whole SSDI system, I really appreciate this detailed discussion! I'm currently going through the application process and was wondering about these same things. It's disappointing to learn that we can't get those delayed retirement credits, but like others have said, at least we're getting our full benefit amount years earlier than we would otherwise. One question though - does anyone know if there are any other ways our benefits might increase over time besides the annual COLA adjustments? I'm trying to understand what to expect for long-term financial planning.

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Welcome to the community! Great question about benefit increases. Besides the annual COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) that applies to all Social Security benefits, there are only a few limited ways your SSDI benefit might increase: 1) If you do any work while on SSDI (staying under the SGA limits), those earnings could potentially raise your benefit slightly if they're higher than previous years used in your calculation, 2) If SSA discovers an error in your original calculation and corrects it upward (rare but happens), and 3) That's about it unfortunately. The benefit is designed to be relatively stable once established. For long-term planning, COLA is really your main source of increases - it's typically 2-3% annually but varies based on inflation. Hope this helps with your planning!

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Just to share what I learned after meeting with a financial planner specializing in retirement - those tiny reductions for being so close to FRA aren't really significant in the grand scheme. What matters more is: 1) Do you need the money now? 2) Are you still working? and 3) What's your life expectancy based on your health and family history? With just 2 months' difference, this is more of a personal preference decision than a major financial one. Either choice is reasonable! Best of luck with your retirement - sounds like you've planned well!

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Thank you! That helps put things in perspective. And you're right - we've planned carefully for retirement, so this is more of a fine-tuning decision than a crucial one. Appreciate the good wishes!

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I'm in a similar boat - turning 67 in June and considering starting benefits a month or two early. One thing I've been researching is whether there are any state tax implications to consider. Some states don't tax Social Security at all, while others do, and the timing of when you start might affect which tax year those benefits fall into. Also, have you considered the impact on your overall tax situation? If you have other retirement income (sounds like you have a pension), starting SS a couple months early might push you into a different tax bracket for part of the year. Probably not a huge deal with just 2 months, but worth running the numbers. Your situation sounds very manageable either way - the financial difference is minimal, so it really comes down to your personal preference and immediate cash flow needs.

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NOBODY mentioned that survivor benefits taken at 60 are reduced by 28.5% FOREVER!!! she's only getting 71.5% of what she would get if she waited till her FRA!!! i hope the counseling job pays well because that's a big hit to take on lifetime benefits!!!

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Noah Lee

While it's true that survivor benefits taken at age 60 are reduced (the exact reduction depends on the birth year and FRA), this reduction doesn't always mean taking benefits early is a bad financial decision. Some people may need the income immediately, and the break-even age can be well into the late 70s or early 80s depending on individual circumstances. Also, survivors have unique options like taking reduced survivor benefits early, then switching to their own retirement benefit later if it would be higher.

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As someone who recently went through a similar earnings situation, I wanted to add that it's worth asking SSA about establishing a payment plan if you do end up with an overpayment next year. When I had to pay back benefits, they let me set up monthly payments rather than demanding a lump sum, which made it much more manageable on my budget. Also, keep detailed records of all your communications with SSA about this - dates you called, representative names if you get them, and what was discussed. This documentation can be really helpful if there are any discrepancies later when they process your final earnings report. Good luck with the rest of your counseling work! It sounds like you're handling this situation exactly the right way by being proactive.

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Thank you all for this amazing advice. I think I understand it better now. My wife will track her earnings carefully for Jan-May 2025, making sure to stay under the monthly limit (around $4,960) as much as possible. We'll watch out for bonuses and vacation pay too. I'm going to have her call SSA to report her expected earnings for those months, and we'll use that Claimyr service if we can't get through normally. Then once she hits FRA in June, she can earn unlimited amounts without affecting her benefits. Is there anything I'm still missing or misunderstanding?

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You've got it right! Just one final tip: have your wife request a "Benefits Planning Query" (BPQY) from SSA once she starts receiving benefits. This document will show her exact FRA date, benefit amounts, and earnings record. It's a good reference to have on hand and can help spot any discrepancies early. You can request it through the local office or sometimes over the phone.

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Just wanted to add one more piece of advice from my experience helping clients with this situation: make sure your wife understands that the earnings test applies to her GROSS earnings, not her net take-home pay after taxes and deductions. I've seen people get confused about this and accidentally exceed the limit because they were only tracking their net pay. Also, if she has any self-employment income (like freelance work or a small side business), the rules can be more complex since they look at net earnings from self-employment rather than gross. But for regular W-2 employment income, it's straightforward - just track the gross wages shown on her paystubs. One last thing: if she does accidentally go over the limit in any month, don't panic. As others mentioned, SSA is generally reasonable about working with you to resolve overpayments, especially if you report the issue promptly and work with them in good faith.

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