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Just sharing my experience - I'm getting survivor benefits now at age 66 (my FRA) after taking my own reduced benefits at 62. When my husband passed last year, SSA automatically gave me the higher amount (his benefit). I didn't have to do anything special because they already had his death certificate from the funeral home. Maybe it varies by state though.
I'm glad it worked smoothly for you, but your situation is definitely not the norm. In most cases, survivor benefits are NOT automatically awarded and require a separate application. The funeral home filing the death certificate with SSA only initiates the process of stopping the deceased's benefits and paying the one-time $255 death benefit. Everyone should be proactive about applying for survivor benefits rather than assuming SSA will handle it automatically.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you might want to consider using the SSA's online benefit calculators before making your final decision. The Retirement Estimator can show you exactly how much your benefit would be reduced by filing at 63 versus waiting until FRA. Since you mentioned your husband's benefit will be about 60% higher than yours, you can also estimate his survivor benefit amount if he waits until 70. Having those specific dollar amounts will help you make a more informed decision about whether the early filing strategy makes sense for your household. The calculators are free on ssa.gov and don't require creating an account.
That's excellent advice about using the online calculators! I hadn't thought to actually run the numbers before making this decision. Having the specific dollar amounts will definitely help me see whether taking the early reduction makes financial sense given our age difference and his plan to wait until 70. Thanks for pointing me toward that resource - it sounds like it could save me a lot of guesswork.
I'm so glad you found this information helpful! As someone who went through a similar situation, I wanted to add one more important point: when you call SSA, make sure to specifically ask about the "deemed filing" rules since you're already receiving SSDI. Sometimes the SSA representatives aren't familiar with how SSDI interacts with spousal benefits, so you might want to mention that you understand you can receive the higher of either your SSDI amount or the spousal benefit amount, but not both in full. Also, since you're 62, ask them to calculate both what you'd get now versus what you'd get if you waited until your full retirement age - sometimes the math works out better to wait depending on your specific situation. One last thing - if the first person you talk to seems uncertain about the rules, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist. These cases can be complex and not every rep handles them regularly. Wishing you the best of luck with this process!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't heard about the "deemed filing" rules before, so I'll make sure to bring that up specifically when I call. You're absolutely right that I should ask them to calculate both scenarios - getting benefits now versus waiting until full retirement age. Given that I'm struggling financially right now, any increase would be welcome, but it's smart to understand the long-term implications too. I really appreciate you mentioning that I might need to ask for a supervisor if the first rep isn't familiar with these rules. It sounds like these SSDI/spousal benefit combinations can be tricky even for SSA staff. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's giving me much more confidence going into this process!
I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share what I learned when I helped my neighbor with a similar situation last year. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you should ask SSA about any potential "government pension offset" (GPO) or "windfall elimination provision" (WEP) that might affect your benefits. These rules can reduce Social Security benefits if you receive certain types of pensions, though they typically apply to government pensions rather than SSDI. Also, since you mentioned being in Florida now, you might want to check if there's a local SSA field office near you. Sometimes it's easier to get help in person, especially for complex cases like yours where you're dealing with both SSDI and potential ex-spousal benefits. You can find local offices on the SSA website. One more tip: if your ex-husband's earnings were significantly higher than yours (which sounds likely given the potential benefit amounts others have mentioned), this could be a game-changer for your monthly budget. Don't get discouraged if the first call doesn't go smoothly - persistence really pays off with SSA. Good luck!
Welcome to the community, and thank you for sharing such helpful information! I really appreciate you mentioning the GPO and WEP - I had never heard of those before. Since I'm only receiving SSDI and don't have any government pensions, hopefully those won't apply to my situation, but it's definitely something I'll ask about when I call SSA just to be sure. The suggestion about visiting a local SSA office is great too. I've been dreading trying to handle this all over the phone, especially after reading about the long wait times. There's actually an SSA office about 20 minutes from me in Tampa, so maybe I'll try scheduling an in-person appointment instead. That might be easier for such a complex situation. Your point about persistence is really encouraging. After reading everyone's experiences here, it's clear that this process can be challenging but potentially very rewarding. The thought that this could significantly help my monthly budget is what's motivating me to push through whatever obstacles come up. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice!
Update: I finally got through to someone at SSA today after trying for three days. The agent explained that they had initially calculated my benefit based on my husband's estimated earnings for his last year of work, but when the actual earnings were processed, it was lower than estimated. They're giving me options to either have reduced payments for 10 months or pay a lump sum (which I can't afford). I'm still going to file for reconsideration because I don't think I should be penalized for their estimation error. Thank you all for your helpful advice and support during this stressful time. The forms and information you suggested really helped me understand what was happening and what my options are.
That's a very common cause of overpayments, unfortunately. When applying for survivor benefits, SSA often has to estimate the deceased's final earnings if tax information hasn't been fully processed yet. Later, when actual earnings are recorded, they adjust the benefit amount, which can result in an overpayment notice. Definitely proceed with the reconsideration, and be sure to emphasize that you had no way of knowing their estimate was incorrect and that recovery would cause financial hardship. Best of luck, and let us know how it goes!
I'm so glad you were able to get through and get some clarity on what happened! That estimation issue is incredibly frustrating - you're absolutely right that you shouldn't be penalized for their error. When you file your reconsideration, make sure to emphasize that: 1. You relied on SSA's benefit determination in good faith 2. You had no way to verify their earnings estimate was incorrect 3. The overpayment was entirely due to their administrative process, not any action on your part Also consider requesting a waiver alongside the reconsideration. Even if the overpayment stands, you might still qualify for waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship. Many people don't realize you can pursue both options simultaneously. Keep us posted on how the reconsideration goes - your experience could really help others in similar situations!
This is such valuable information, and I really appreciate how thorough everyone has been in explaining the rules. As someone who's been helping folks navigate Social Security for years, I can confirm what others have said - your husband's early filing absolutely will NOT reduce his survivor benefits. One thing I'd add that might be helpful: if your husband does become a survivor, he'll want to understand his timing options. Since his own benefit will be permanently reduced due to early filing, but your survivor benefit would be based on your full amount, he might benefit from what's called a "restricted application" strategy where he could potentially switch between benefits at different times to maximize his total lifetime benefits. Also, just a heads up - when the time comes (hopefully many years from now), make sure to apply for survivor benefits promptly. Unlike retirement benefits, survivor benefits can't be paid retroactively for more than 6 months, so timing matters for maximizing the total amount received. You're doing great by planning ahead and getting the facts straight!
Thank you for that additional insight about the restricted application strategy! That's something I hadn't considered before. It sounds like there could be some strategic timing decisions to make if the situation ever arises. I'm definitely going to research that concept more and add it to our planning documents. The 6-month retroactive limit is also really good to know - I'll make sure to include that information in the file I'm putting together for my husband. It's reassuring to hear from someone with professional experience that we're on the right track with our planning.
As someone who went through this exact scenario with my parents, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - your husband's early filing won't affect his survivor benefits at all. My dad filed at 62 and my mom waited until her FRA of 66. When mom passed away two years ago, dad was able to switch to her full benefit amount without any reduction due to his early filing. One thing that really helped us was creating a simple one-page summary of all the key facts - both of their Social Security numbers, their projected benefit amounts, and the key rules about survivor benefits. We kept copies in multiple places so it would be easy to find when needed. The SSA office actually commented on how organized we were and it made the whole process much smoother during an already difficult time. Your planning ahead like this will really pay off if your husband ever needs to navigate this situation. The peace of mind alone is worth it!
Thank you for sharing your family's experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this process. I'm sorry for the loss of your mom. The one-page summary idea is brilliant! I'm definitely going to create something like that with all our key information in one easy-to-find place. It sounds like being organized really does make a difference when dealing with SSA during such a difficult time. I appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips along with confirming the benefit rules.
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Thanks to everyone for all the helpful advice! I spoke with SSA yesterday (and yes, I did use Claimyr to get through quickly). The agent confirmed everything about the ABLE account and helped me understand exactly how my daughter's earnings will affect her SSI payment. I'm relieved to know she can save for her future while still maintaining some benefits and especially keeping her Medicaid. We're setting up the ABLE account this weekend, and I've started documenting all her hearing-related work expenses for those IRWE deductions. The agent said her benefits will decrease some, but with the combination of part-time work and reduced SSI, she'll actually have more monthly income overall, which is wonderful. Thanks again for helping us navigate this complicated system!
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Sean O'Brien
That's wonderful news! It sounds like you've got a great plan in place. Your daughter is so lucky to have an advocate like you helping her navigate this system. The fact that she'll end up with more monthly income overall while keeping Medicaid is exactly what the work incentive programs are designed to achieve. One small tip for the ABLE account - many programs offer automatic investment options if you're not comfortable managing investments yourself. Ohio's STABLE Account has some really user-friendly options for beginners. Best of luck to your daughter with her new job! It's great to see someone successfully transitioning to work while maintaining the safety net of benefits. Stories like yours give hope to other families in similar situations.
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