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Just hit my Full Retirement Age last week and applied for my SS benefits to start in June. I'm planning to keep working until December this year (2025). My employer pays really well and I'll probably hit the maximum taxable earnings limit (around $175,000 I think?) by October. What I'm confused about is whether this year's earnings will bump up my benefit amount by replacing one of my lower-earning years in the calculation? I had about 5 years in my work history where I earned almost nothing due to caring for my parents, and I'm wondering if these high earnings right after FRA will knock one of those zero years out of my calculation. Also, since I've already applied, will SSA automatically recalculate my benefit amount if this year's earnings are high enough to change things? Or do I need to contact them and request some kind of recalculation after filing my taxes? Thanks for any help understanding how this works!
I'm turning my full retirement age (FRA) on December 18th this year. I've been working full-time and have already earned about $72,000 in 2024, which I know is well above the earnings limit. My question is: can I start collecting my Social Security retirement benefits in the month I reach FRA (December) and get my first payment in January 2025, even though I've exceeded the yearly income limit? I've heard something about a 'month of FRA' rule but I'm confused about how it works with the calendar year earnings. Does Social Security look at my whole year earnings or just what I earn in December? I don't want to apply and then get hit with some huge penalty or overpayment notice next year!
Just to add a bit more clarity on the technical aspects: There are actually two different earnings tests: 1. The annual earnings test for people who won't reach FRA during the year (limit of $22,320 for 2024) 2. The higher monthly earnings test for the year you reach FRA, which only counts earnings before your FRA month (limit of $59,520 for 2024) In your case, since you're only starting benefits in your FRA month (December), neither test applies to you. Your benefits starting with December (paid in January) won't be affected by any earnings, before or after your FRA.
That explanation makes it super clear, thank you! I didn't realize there were two different tests. So if I understand correctly, once I hit FRA in December, I can collect full benefits for December regardless of how much I earned January-November, and regardless of how much I earn in December itself or any future month.
This thread has been so helpful! I'm in a similar boat - turning 67 in November and have been stressed about my earnings this year. Reading everyone's experiences really confirms what I suspected but wasn't sure about. One thing I'd add for anyone else reading this: make sure you have all your documents ready when you apply. I started gathering my birth certificate, W-2s, and other paperwork early because I've heard the application can ask for quite a bit of documentation. Better to be prepared than scramble later!
I'm trying to figure out the best timing for starting my Social Security benefits. My Full Retirement Age (FRA) falls exactly on November 15, 2025. Should I apply for benefits to start on November 1 or December 1 if I want to receive my full benefit amount? I'm confused about whether collecting in the same month as reaching FRA would reduce my benefit or if I need to wait until the following month. Does anyone know how this works with the exact month of FRA?
To clear up any confusion: For retirement benefits, if you start benefits in the exact month you reach FRA, your benefit will be calculated based on the number of days in that month before you reached FRA. For example, with FRA on November 15: - If you select November 1 as your start date, your benefit would be reduced by about 1/2 of one month's early retirement reduction (roughly 0.25-0.3%) - If you select December 1, you get your full benefit with no reduction For most people, waiting until the month after FRA (December 1 in your case) makes the most sense, especially if you want to ensure you get your full PIA amount.
Great question! I'm approaching my own FRA soon and had the exact same confusion. After reading through all these responses, it's clear that waiting until December 1st is the smart move for your situation. The key thing I learned is that SSA pays benefits for the previous month, so your November payment would reflect that partial month before reaching FRA on the 15th. Even though the reduction might only be around 0.25-0.3%, that adds up to real money over 20+ years of retirement. Better to wait one extra month and get your full benefit amount from the start!
I'm trying to figure out a smart filing strategy and could use some insight. I'm considering taking my Social Security retirement at 63 (about a year from now), even though I know I'll get a reduced amount compared to waiting until my Full Retirement Age (67). My question is about how this might affect things down the road when my husband eventually passes away. If I take my own benefits early with that reduction, will that same percentage reduction follow me when I would switch to survivor benefits after my husband's death? He's planning to wait until 70 to maximize his benefits, if that matters. Just trying to understand if my early filing decision now will permanently affect what I might get as a widow later. Thanks for any help untangling this!
Just sharing my experience - I'm getting survivor benefits now at age 66 (my FRA) after taking my own reduced benefits at 62. When my husband passed last year, SSA automatically gave me the higher amount (his benefit). I didn't have to do anything special because they already had his death certificate from the funeral home. Maybe it varies by state though.
I'm glad it worked smoothly for you, but your situation is definitely not the norm. In most cases, survivor benefits are NOT automatically awarded and require a separate application. The funeral home filing the death certificate with SSA only initiates the process of stopping the deceased's benefits and paying the one-time $255 death benefit. Everyone should be proactive about applying for survivor benefits rather than assuming SSA will handle it automatically.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you might want to consider using the SSA's online benefit calculators before making your final decision. The Retirement Estimator can show you exactly how much your benefit would be reduced by filing at 63 versus waiting until FRA. Since you mentioned your husband's benefit will be about 60% higher than yours, you can also estimate his survivor benefit amount if he waits until 70. Having those specific dollar amounts will help you make a more informed decision about whether the early filing strategy makes sense for your household. The calculators are free on ssa.gov and don't require creating an account.
Hi everyone, I'm in a bit of a predicament. Back in March I submitted my application to start receiving my SS retirement benefits early at 62. I was all set on retiring and figured I'd take the reduced benefit amount. Well, life threw me a curveball and I just got offered a job that I really want to take! The salary is actually pretty decent and now I'm thinking I should wait until at least my FRA to claim benefits. The thing is, I haven't received my first payment yet. Is it possible to withdraw my application at this point? Has anyone done this before? What's the process like to undo my application? Really hoping I haven't locked myself into the reduced benefit amount forever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
After you submit the withdrawal form, make sure you get written confirmation that it was processed! When I did mine, I assumed everything was fine until I suddenly got a direct deposit three weeks later. Turned out they had a backlog and hadn't processed my withdrawal. Created a huge headache having to return the payment.
Hey Genevieve! Just wanted to add that timing is really critical here. Since you mentioned you applied back in March and it's now nearly April, your first payment could be processed any day now. The SSA typically processes retirement applications within 3-4 months, so you're right at that window. I'd recommend calling first thing Monday morning (or using that Claimyr service others mentioned) to get the ball rolling on your withdrawal ASAP. Even if you can't get through by phone immediately, I'd also suggest going to your local office in person with the SSA-521 form as a backup plan. Better to have multiple approaches going than risk missing your window! Good luck with the new job - sounds like a great opportunity!
Alejandro Castro
Quick question related to this - I'm 63 and taking SS early but still working part time. Is it the same for me? Will they recalculate my benefits if I'm earning good money now?
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Maggie Martinez
Yes, the recalculation works the same way if you're collecting early, BUT since you're under FRA, you're also subject to the earnings limit (about $21,240 for 2025). If you earn more than that, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. The good news is that once you reach FRA, they'll adjust your benefit upward to account for the months they withheld benefits. And yes, any higher earnings can still replace lower years in your 35-year calculation, potentially increasing your benefit amount later.
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PixelWarrior
Just wanted to add my experience - I was in almost the exact same situation as you two years ago. Hit FRA in March 2023, started benefits in May, and worked through December making about $180k that year. The automatic recalculation did happen, but like others mentioned, it took until December 2024 to see the increase. My monthly benefit went up by $147, which replaced one of my zero-earning years from the early 1990s when I was out of the workforce. One thing I learned is that you can actually check your Social Security Statement online at ssa.gov to see if your most recent year's earnings have been posted. They usually update it by late summer/early fall after you file your taxes. It's worth checking to make sure your high earnings year shows up correctly in their system! The wait is frustrating, but the automatic system does work eventually. Good luck with your continued work - sounds like you're making a smart financial move!
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