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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I finally got through to Social Security (used that Claimyr service someone mentioned - worked great). The agent confirmed what you all said - we each get our own benefits regardless of the divorce. She also showed me the difference in my benefit amounts: at 62 I'd get about $1,875 monthly, but if I wait until my FRA at 67, it jumps to around $2,650! That's a huge difference. Since my soon-to-be-ex makes less than me, she might be better off taking the spousal benefit eventually. I'm going to work a couple more years and then decide when to file. Really appreciate all the advice here - saved me a lot of confusion!

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That's fantastic that you got through to SSA and got concrete numbers! The difference between $1,875 and $2,650 per month really puts it in perspective - that's almost $800 more monthly or about $9,300 extra per year just for waiting until FRA. And you're absolutely right about your ex potentially benefiting from spousal benefits if your earnings history is significantly higher. One thing to keep in mind as you plan those couple extra working years - your highest 35 years of earnings are used to calculate your benefit, so if you're still earning well, those additional years could potentially increase your benefit amount even further. It sounds like you're making a really informed decision now with all the facts!

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Congratulations on getting through to SSA and getting those concrete numbers! That $775/month difference really shows why timing matters so much. Just wanted to add - since you mentioned working a couple more years, make sure to check if those extra earnings will bump out any lower-earning years from your calculation. SSA uses your highest 35 years, so if you're still earning more now than in some earlier years, it could boost your benefit even beyond what they quoted you. Also smart thinking about your ex potentially getting spousal benefits - that 50% of your higher benefit could end up being more than what she'd get on her own record after 25 years of work. Really glad that Claimyr service worked for you too!

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One more important point about the DAC benefits for your husband's son: When he converts from SSI to DAC, he'll receive a benefit equal to 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) while your husband is alive. If your husband passes away, the son's benefit would increase to 75% of your husband's PIA. This conversion won't affect your spousal top-up at all, as the family maximum typically doesn't apply in these situations. Both you and the son can receive your full entitled benefits without reducing each other's amounts.

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Thank you for this clarification! It's a relief to know that everyone can receive their full benefits. I'm going to suggest to my husband that we contact his ex about getting this DAC application started for their son too. Sounds like it would be better for him in the long run.

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As someone who went through a similar situation, I wanted to add that when you call SSA about the spousal top-up, ask them to calculate the exact amount you're entitled to and when your eligibility started. They should be able to tell you over the phone before you even go in for the appointment. Also, regarding the DAC benefits for your stepson - make sure the application gets filed soon because there can be processing delays, and you don't want him to miss out on any potential benefits while waiting. The transition from SSI to DAC is usually worth it financially, but as others mentioned, definitely check on the Medicaid situation first since that can be tricky to navigate. One last tip: if you end up going to the SSA office, try to schedule an appointment rather than walking in. The wait times for walk-ins can be brutal, especially if you need to discuss multiple benefit types like you do.

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This is really helpful advice about calling ahead to get the calculations! I hadn't thought about asking them to run the numbers over the phone first. That would definitely save me a trip if there are any issues with my eligibility. And you're absolutely right about scheduling an appointment. I've heard horror stories about people waiting all day at SSA offices. I'll definitely try to get an appointment scheduled once I call them about the spousal benefit calculations. Thanks for mentioning the processing delays too - I'll make sure to tell my husband's ex that time might be a factor here so she doesn't put off filing the DAC application for too long.

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this is so confusing!!!! how is anyone supposed to keep track of all these rules and limits and trial periods???? and they wonder why people just give up trying to work at all!

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RIGHT?!? My cousin has been on SSDI for years and is terrified to even try working part-time because of all this confusing red tape. The whole system seems designed to keep people trapped in poverty. And heaven forbid you make an honest mistake - they'll come after you for every penny plus interest. It's inhumane.

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Thank you everyone for all this valuable information! I've learned so much. I'm going to call SSA tomorrow to find out exactly where I stand with my Trial Work Period and get clarity on my specific situation. I'm also going to look into both the Ticket to Work program and whether any of my expenses qualify as Impairment-Related Work Expenses. Really appreciate all the help!

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Good plan! When you call, ask specifically about your Trial Work Period status - how many months you've used so far. Also request a Benefits Planning Query (BPQY) report, which will give you a complete overview of your benefits and work history as recorded by SSA. It's free and extremely helpful for planning purposes. Best of luck!

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@StarStrider gave great advice about the BPQY report! Also, when you call SSA, make sure to ask them to document your call in your file. If they give you any specific guidance about your earnings or work situation, ask them to send you a written confirmation or at least reference the date and time of your call for future reference. This can protect you if there are any disputes later about what you were told. Having everything documented has saved me from headaches before!

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To directly answer your question about what to expect in 2025: Based on your 14 years of substantial earnings, your WEP penalty is likely reduced from the maximum by 40%. With the information you've provided, I estimate your benefit will increase by approximately $330-380 per month once WEP is eliminated. To get a more precise estimate, you can: 1. Log into your my Social Security account 2. Look for your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) before WEP reduction 3. Compare it to your current benefit amount The difference is approximately what you'll gain when WEP is eliminated. Keep in mind that there will also be COLA increases between now and 2025 that will make the actual dollar amount higher.

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Does anyone know WHEN in 2025 we'll actually see this increase?? Will it be January or are they gonna make us wait all year???

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The legislation states implementation must be completed during 2025, but doesn't specify a month. SSA hasn't announced a specific timeline yet. I expect they'll need several months to reprogram their systems, so mid-2025 is probably realistic. They'll likely process retroactive payments back to January 2025 once the systems are updated.

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I've been trying to get straight answers for months. I'm going to request the non-WEP PIA calculation and try to get through to an agent. From what everyone has shared, it looks like I might see an increase of $300-350 per month once WEP is eliminated. That would make a huge difference for me. Does anyone know if we'll receive any official communication from SSA about our specific increase amount before the changes take effect in 2025?

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SSA will likely send notices to all affected beneficiaries before implementing the changes. Based on previous major program changes, they typically send these communications 2-3 months before implementation. The notice should include your current benefit amount, the WEP-eliminated amount, and the effective date of the change.

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@Christopher Morgan, I'd also recommend keeping copies of any documentation you get from SSA about your WEP reduction amount. When the changes roll out in 2025, having that paperwork will help verify that your new benefit amount is calculated correctly. I've heard of cases where people had to provide their own documentation to fix errors in the system updates. Also, if you do use that Claimyr service that Cassandra mentioned, make sure to ask them to email you a summary of what the agent told you. Having it in writing is always better than trying to remember the details later.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've learned so much from this discussion. Just to summarize what I understand now: 1. My husband should go ahead and file for his own benefits when he turns 70. 2. He can't receive spousal benefits based on my record because his own benefit will be more than half of mine. 3. When I decide to file (likely at 70), I'll get my own benefit amount. 4. The higher benefit (mine) will become the survivor benefit if one of us passes away. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this. The Social Security rules can be so confusing!

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You've got it exactly right, Zara! Your summary is spot on. One additional tip I'd suggest - since you're planning to wait until 70 to file, make sure to apply about 3-4 months before your 70th birthday to avoid any processing delays. Social Security benefits can be retroactive up to 6 months, but you don't want to miss out on any payments due to paperwork timing. Also, keep good records of both your and your husband's work history and earnings - it helps when you finally do file to make sure your benefits are calculated correctly. Good luck with your planning!

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