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Social Security documentation requirements at FRA - need divorce decrees & death certificates for multiple marriages?

I'm turning 67 next April (my FRA) and getting my paperwork together to apply for SS retirement benefits. My situation is a bit complicated: I was married to my first husband for 14 years before we divorced, and he passed away about 6 years ago. Then I remarried briefly (only 13 months) before divorcing again. Does anyone know exactly what documentation I'll need? Specifically, do I have to provide the divorce decree from my first marriage, his death certificate, AND the divorce papers from my second marriage? The SSA website mentions needing proof of marriages/divorces but isn't specific about situations like mine. I'd rather know now what I need instead of being sent away to gather more documents when I finally get an appointment!

Just curious - does anyone know if they MAIL BACK your original documents after they process your application? My friend is worried about sending her only copy of her divorce papers...

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If you apply in person, they'll usually just look at the documents and give them back to you right away after verification. If you mail documents (not recommended for important originals!), they should return them, but there's always a risk of loss. That's why getting certified copies specifically for your SS application is the safest approach.

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I went through a similar situation last year and want to share a few additional tips that helped me! First, when ordering certified copies, get at least 2-3 of each document - you never know if you'll need extras for other purposes or if one gets damaged. Second, I created a simple checklist and kept copies of everything in a folder organized by marriage/relationship so I could easily find what the SSA rep was asking for. Also, if you're having trouble getting your first husband's death certificate because you're divorced, try contacting the funeral home that handled his arrangements - they sometimes keep records and can point you in the right direction for obtaining the official certificate. The whole process took me about 45 minutes once I had all my paperwork in order, so the prep work is definitely worth it!

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Social Security payment amount changing between application date and first payment - confused about benefit start date!

I'm totally confused about what my actual SS retirement benefit will be. Here's what happened: When I checked my SSA account on 1/31/2025, it showed my January 2025 benefit estimate as $1351. I submitted my application that night and got confirmation that my application was accepted on 1/31/25. But today when I logged in, the statement now starts with February 2025 and shows an estimated benefit of $1358 (which is $7 higher). I have two questions that are driving me crazy: 1) Since benefits are paid a month after the start date, when I actually get my first payment, will it be $1351 or $1358? Why did it change? 2) I'm also planning to suspend my benefits when I reach my FRA to get those Delayed Retirement Credits. When I do this, should I set my restart date as my birthday month or the month after? Does it make any difference? I've read so much conflicting info online and I'm worried about making a mistake that will cost me money for the rest of my life. Thanks for any help!

For restarting after suspension, you don't need a new application. You simply contact SSA to request reinstatement of your benefits. This can be done by phone, in person, or online through your my Social Security account. When you request reinstatement, benefits resume the month after your request (unless you specify a future month). The amount will include all accumulated DRCs. My recommendation: Set a calendar reminder about 30 days before you want to restart. This gives SSA time to process everything so there's no gap in payments.

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Thank you so much! This has been incredibly helpful. I'll definitely set that calendar reminder when the time comes. I feel much better about understanding how this all works now.

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just a tip from someone who did the suspend thing last year - write down EVERYTHING when u talk to them! i didnt get the name of the person i talked to when i suspended and then they had no record of my request! lost a month of credits because of it. always get confirmation numbers and names!!!!!

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This is such important advice! I'm definitely going to document everything when I deal with SSA. Did you eventually get that month of credits back, or was it just lost forever? I'm wondering if there's any way to appeal those kinds of administrative errors.

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Will my pension affect survivor benefits from Social Security? Getting conflicting info from SSA rep

I'm currently 63 and receiving my late husband's survivor benefits while delaying my own SS until 70 for maximum benefit. Recently got a promotion at work and will be earning about $20,000 more next year than I initially reported to SSA. When I called to update them, the rep told me 'pension is not considered income' for the earnings test. That doesn't sound right to me since I'm not talking about pension but actual employment income. The rep seemed uncertain about several of my questions which has me worried. I know there's an earnings limit (around $22,320 for 2025 I think?) before they reduce benefits when you're under FRA. Does anyone know if the SSA rep gave me correct information? Will this income increase affect my survivor benefits? The last thing I want is a surprise overpayment letter next year! Also, should I call back and try to speak with someone else who might be more knowledgeable? This representative had me on hold multiple times and still couldn't answer basic questions.

does anyone no if the earnings limit changes every year? my nephew is on disabilty and his wife works, they told them theres a limit for her to.

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The annual earnings limit for Social Security retirement and survivors benefits does change each year based on national wage indexes. However, for SSDI (disability), the rules are completely different. For disability, there's a Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) limit, not a family earnings limit. Your nephew's wife's income generally doesn't affect his SSDI benefits (unless she's also receiving benefits on his record as a spouse). You might be thinking of SSI (Supplemental Security Income), which does consider household income. These are two completely different programs with different rules.

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I work for a nonprofit that helps people navigate Social Security issues, and I can confirm the other commenters are absolutely right - the rep gave you incorrect information. Employment income (wages, salary, bonuses) definitely counts toward the annual earnings test for ALL Social Security benefits when you're under full retirement age, including survivor benefits. The $22,320 limit for 2025 is correct, and yes, they'll withhold $1 for every $2 you earn over that amount. Since you mentioned a $20,000 increase, this could significantly impact your benefits if it puts you over the limit. Here's my advice: When you call back, ask to speak with a "Technical Expert" or request to be transferred to someone who specializes in survivor benefits and the earnings test. Regular customer service reps sometimes mix up the rules between different types of income. Also, have your expected 2025 earnings amount ready - they'll need to know your total anticipated wages for the year to properly adjust your benefits going forward. Don't wait on this - it's much easier to have them adjust your monthly benefit amount now than to deal with an overpayment situation later!

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Can non-biological grandchildren qualify for Social Security benefits when being raised by a beneficiary in a common-law marriage?

My partner just started collecting his Social Security retirement benefits at 67, and I'm trying to figure out if the grandkids we're raising might qualify for any benefits through him. We've been together 13+ years in what's basically a common-law marriage (though not legally married yet). I have legal conservatorship of my grandchildren, and we've been raising them together most of their lives. They're not his biological grandchildren, but he's the only grandfather they know - they call him Papa and he treats them as his own. When he applied for his benefits, we listed them as minors in our household. Would they qualify for any type of dependent or auxiliary benefits? The SSA website is confusing me with all the different eligibility requirements. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation? Really appreciate any guidance!

Thank you all for the helpful responses. I'm going to try contacting SSA directly to get a definitive answer for our situation. The Claimyr service someone mentioned sounds helpful since I've had trouble getting through on the phone before. I appreciate the clarification about Colorado recognizing common-law marriage, but it sounds like that alone won't help with the grandchildren's eligibility. Neither child has disabilities that would qualify for SSI, so that's unfortunately not an option either. I'll update this thread if I learn anything that might help others in similar situations.

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Good luck! One last thought - check if either of the biological parents might have work credits with Social Security. If the mother has enough work credits and qualifies as disabled due to her addiction issues (even if not officially designated as disabled yet), the children might qualify for benefits on HER record. It's worth asking SSA about this possibility too!

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work in family law and see situations like this frequently. While the adoption route seems daunting with teenagers, it's actually not uncommon and can still provide benefits. Colorado has a streamlined process for stepparent adoption when there's been long-term care, and since you have conservatorship already, that demonstrates the legal relationship. Even if your partner adopts them at 14 and 16, they could still qualify for student benefits through age 19 if they're in high school, which could help with college costs. The adoption might also help with other things like medical decisions, inheritance, and family medical leave. It's worth consulting with a family attorney who specializes in these situations - many offer free consultations and can walk you through the process and timeline.

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Unexpected 5-figure deposit in my SSDI account - error or legitimate SS back pay?

I'm completely freaking out right now. I checked my bank account this morning and found a MASSIVE deposit from Social Security - we're talking over $23,000! This is on top of my regular monthly SSDI payment that I already received last week.I've been on SSDI for about 3 years now due to a degenerative disc condition, and I've occasionally gotten small adjustment payments ($150-200) when they recalculate something, but NOTHING like this. There's no letter in my mailbox explaining it, nothing on my mySocialSecurity account, and I can't think of any reason I'd be owed this much money.I know I need to call them (ugh), but I'm terrified of spending hours on hold only to find out it's just a mistake they'll reverse (or worse, that I'll somehow be penalized for their error). Has anyone ever received a huge unexpected payment that turned out to be legitimate? Maybe back pay or some kind of settlement I don't know about? Should I just not touch this money until I hear from them?

UPDATE: I finally got through to Social Security! You guys were right - it IS legitimate! During my continuing disability review, they found they had been using an incorrect calculation of my Average Indexed Monthly Earnings. They missed some of my self-employment income from 2016-2019 (good catch @casual_commenter!). The $23,475 is backpay for the difference in what I should have been receiving all along. AND my monthly payment is increasing by $428 going forward! I'm actually in tears right now. This is life-changing for me.Thank you all for helping me keep calm while I figured this out!

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Congratulations! What an incredible relief that must be! ๐ŸŽ‰ This is exactly why I always tell people not to panic when they get unexpected payments from SSA - while mistakes do happen, legitimate corrections are actually pretty common, especially after CDRs. The fact that they caught the self-employment income error during your review shows the system does work sometimes (even if it takes a while). That monthly increase of $428 is going to make such a difference in your quality of life. Thanks for updating us - stories like this give hope to others who might be in similar situations!

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