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you should check out ABLE accounts if you get disability!! we set one up for my husband and it lets you save money without losing benefits. theres income limits for SSI but not SSDI but the ABLE account is still helpful for planning

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I'm going through a similar situation right now at 59 with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia. Based on my research and consultation with a disability attorney, here's what I've learned that might help you: First, start documenting EVERYTHING now - keep a daily symptom journal, get regular medical appointments, and make sure your doctors are noting functional limitations, not just diagnoses. The SSA wants to see how your conditions prevent you from working ANY job, not just your current one. Second, consider applying for SSDI while you're still working if your condition worsens. You can work part-time and earn up to $1,550/month (2025 limit) during the application process without it affecting your claim. Third, regarding your wife's potential spousal benefits - she could claim on your SSDI record starting at 62, but it would be reduced. However, if she also qualifies for SSDI on her own record, that might be more advantageous since there's no age reduction for disability benefits. One thing that really opened my eyes: my attorney said to think of SSDI as "pre-paying" for your full retirement benefit. You've already earned it through your work credits, and disability just lets you access it early without the typical early retirement penalties. The process is daunting, but don't let that discourage you from applying if you genuinely can't work. Start gathering your medical records now - you'll need them either way.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I had no idea you could work part-time during the SSDI application process - that could really help with the financial strain during the waiting period. The daily symptom journal is something I'm going to start immediately. Can I ask how long you've been working with your disability attorney? Did you hire them before applying or after getting denied? I'm trying to figure out the best timing for getting legal help. Also, the point about SSDI being like "pre-paying" for retirement benefits really helps me think about this differently. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone in a similar situation.

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Medicare Part A forced enrollment with Social Security benefits ruined our HSA - any way out?

I'm completely frustrated with what just happened to us regarding Medicare and our HSA! I retired last November at age 70 and filed for my Social Security retirement benefits (got my first payment in January 2025). My wife still works full-time with excellent health insurance that covers both of us, so I specifically declined Medicare enrollment on my SS application because we contribute the family maximum to her HSA. Well, guess what arrived in yesterday's mail? A Medicare Part A card showing I've been automatically enrolled as of October 2024! I immediately called SSA and they told me to visit our local office to cancel it. Took half a day off work to go there, only to be told by the agent that I CANNOT cancel Medicare Part A because it's automatically provided to anyone receiving SS retirement benefits after age 65. This creates a HUGE financial problem for us. From what I understand, we're now ineligible for HSA contributions since I have Medicare Part A! We've already put $7,450 in the HSA for 2025 and had $4,900 in there for late 2024. The agent said we'll have to remove all those contributions plus earnings or face a 6% penalty on excess contributions. Does anyone know if this is actually correct? Do I really have zero options to decline Medicare Part A while collecting Social Security? The financial hit on our retirement planning is significant since we were counting on those HSA tax advantages!

I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! My husband just turned 66 and we were planning to file for his Social Security next month while continuing to max out our HSA contributions. I had NO idea about this automatic Medicare Part A enrollment issue until I saw your post. This is exactly the kind of critical information that should be prominently displayed on the Social Security application forms and website. Instead, it's buried in fine print that most people miss. We've been contributing to our HSA for 8 years specifically as part of our retirement healthcare strategy, and now we have to completely recalculate our plans. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's saving us from making the same costly mistake. We're going to delay his Social Security filing until we're ready to give up the HSA contributions. It's frustrating that the system forces this either/or choice when many people could benefit from both programs simultaneously.

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I'm so glad this post helped you avoid the same mistake! It's really frustrating how poorly communicated this rule is. When I was going through the Social Security application process, there was no clear warning about the HSA implications - just a checkbox to decline Medicare enrollment that apparently doesn't actually work for Part A when you're claiming benefits after 65. You're absolutely making the smart choice by delaying your husband's Social Security filing. We're learning the hard way that the math really doesn't work out - losing those HSA tax advantages for multiple years isn't worth starting Social Security a few months earlier. The government really needs to fix this disconnect between programs that were created decades apart but now interact in ways that hurt retirement planning. Good luck with your revised timeline! At least you found out before filing rather than getting that surprise Medicare card in the mail like we did.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - it's one of the most frustrating "gotcha" rules in the entire Social Security/Medicare system. What happened to you is unfortunately very common and perfectly legal, even though it feels completely unfair. The SSA agent was correct that you cannot decline Medicare Part A while receiving Social Security retirement benefits after age 65. This is mandated by federal law and there are no exceptions. The decline option you saw during your SS application only applies to Medicare Parts B and D, not Part A. For your HSA situation, you'll want to act quickly to avoid penalties. Contact your HSA administrator and request an "excess contribution correction" for any contributions made after your Medicare Part A effective date (October 2024). They'll calculate any earnings on those excess contributions that also need to be withdrawn. As long as you complete this before your tax filing deadline (including extensions), you can avoid the 6% penalty entirely. The silver lining is that your wife can still contribute to the HSA at the individual rate since she doesn't have Medicare coverage yet. And all your existing HSA funds remain available for tax-free medical expenses throughout retirement. This rule really needs better disclosure - too many people get blindsided by it when they're just trying to optimize their retirement planning.

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One more consideration: have you checked if you might qualify for spousal benefits instead of your own? Sometimes that can be higher depending on your situation. Also, filing at 62 permanently reduces any potential survivor benefits your spouse might receive if you pass away first. Worth discussing with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security strategies before you pull the trigger.

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I'm divorced and was married for 8 years, so I don't qualify for spousal benefits (needed 10 years of marriage). But that's good advice for others reading this thread!

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Just wanted to add my experience - I filed at 62 last year and the amount on my statement was exactly what I received (before Medicare deductions). One tip: apply about 3 months before you want your first payment to start. The process was actually smoother than I expected, but it does take time to process. Also double-check your earnings record online before applying - I found an error from 2019 that would have cost me about $15/month for life if I hadn't caught it. The SSA corrected it pretty quickly once I provided my W-2. Good luck with your decision!

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As someone who just went through a similar situation with my own divorce, I can confirm what others have said here. The key thing to remember is that Social Security looks at your marital status at the time you apply for benefits, not what happened in between. Your ex-wife can absolutely claim on your record since you were married 17 years (well over the 10-year requirement) and she's currently unmarried after her second divorce ended. The length of that second marriage doesn't matter at all - could have been 6 months or 6 years. However, given what you mentioned about her being a teacher with a pension, the Government Pension Offset (GPO) that Miguel mentioned could be a major factor. GPO can significantly reduce or even eliminate spousal benefits for people receiving government pensions. She really needs to get specific calculations from SSA to see if claiming on your record would even provide any benefit after GPO is applied. My advice: both of you should create accounts on ssa.gov to see your estimated benefits, and then she should definitely speak with an SSA representative about how GPO would affect her situation specifically.

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This is really helpful information, thank you! I'm completely new to understanding Social Security rules and had no idea about things like GPO. It sounds like even though she technically qualifies to claim on my record due to our 17-year marriage and her current unmarried status, her teacher's pension could wipe out most or all of those benefits anyway. I'm starting to think she may not have realized this either when she brought it up. The ssa.gov account suggestion is great - I'll definitely set that up to see what my own estimated benefits look like. It's frustrating how complex all these rules are, but I appreciate everyone breaking it down in terms I can understand.

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I'm dealing with a somewhat similar situation right now. My ex-husband and I were married for 12 years before divorcing in 2018. He remarried in 2020, but I heard through mutual friends that he's now separated and likely heading for divorce. From what I understand based on the responses here, if his second marriage officially ends, I would still be eligible to claim on his record when I reach 62 (I'm 58 now) since our marriage exceeded 10 years and I've remained unmarried. Is that correct? It's honestly frustrating how complicated these rules are. I've been putting off learning about Social Security benefits because it seemed so confusing, but reading this thread has been really helpful in understanding the basics. The GPO issue doesn't apply to me since I work in the private sector, but I can see how that would complicate things significantly for teachers and other government employees. Thanks to everyone sharing their knowledge and experiences - it's much clearer now than trying to navigate the SSA website alone!

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Yes, that's exactly right! Your eligibility to claim on your ex-husband's record is based on your 12-year marriage (which meets the 10-year requirement) and your current unmarried status. His remarriage and potential second divorce don't affect your eligibility at all - only your own marital status matters when you apply. Since you've remained unmarried since your 2018 divorce, you'll be eligible to file for divorced spouse benefits once you turn 62, regardless of what happens with his current marriage situation. And since you mentioned you work in the private sector, you won't have to worry about GPO reducing your benefits like the original poster's ex-wife might. I'm glad this thread has been helpful! The SSA website can definitely be overwhelming, but once you understand the basic rules, it becomes much clearer. You might want to create that ssa.gov account others mentioned to start tracking your estimated benefits as you get closer to 62.

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Since you're planning to continue working part-time while collecting, also be aware of how your earnings will be calculated for the earnings test. SSA counts income when it's earned, not when it's paid. So December bonuses count for December even if paid in January. Good news is that once you reach your Full Retirement Age, the earnings test no longer applies - you can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. For the year you reach FRA, there's a higher limit and a lower penalty rate for the months before your birthday month. Regarding application timing - I recommend applying approximately 2 months before you want benefits to begin. The SSA's processing times can vary dramatically depending on their workload and staffing.

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That's really helpful, especially about how they count the income. I'll likely get a year-end bonus too, so I need to factor that in. Seems like my best bet would be to apply about 2 months before I want to start receiving benefits. Thanks for all the advice!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who did exactly what you're planning! I took Medicare at 65 but delayed SS for about a year. The key things that worked for me: 1. Applied for SS benefits exactly 8 weeks before I wanted them to start - perfect timing 2. Set up automatic Medicare premium payments through my bank since I wouldn't have SS to deduct from 3. Created a my Social Security account online early to track my estimated benefits as they grew each month One thing I wish I'd known: if you're getting any kind of pension or 401k distributions while waiting, make sure those won't affect your future SS benefits calculation. Most won't, but it's worth double-checking. Also, since you mentioned reducing to 20 hours - that's actually a sweet spot for many people. You keep some income flowing while your SS benefits increase, plus you might qualify for some ACA marketplace subsidies if your employer plan gets too expensive. Good luck with your plan!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you for sharing all those practical details. The 8-week timeline seems to be the sweet spot that everyone's mentioning. I hadn't thought about setting up automatic Medicare payments - that's a great tip since I'll need to handle those separately. And you're right about the 20-hour arrangement potentially being ideal - keeps me active and earning while letting my benefits grow. Did you find the online account helpful for tracking your benefit increases month by month?

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Yes, the online account was super helpful! I could literally watch my monthly benefit estimate go up each month I delayed. It's motivating when you can see the dollars adding up. The interface shows you exactly how much you'll get at different claiming ages, so you can make informed decisions about when to pull the trigger. Plus having the account set up early meant no delays when I was ready to apply - everything was already verified and ready to go. Definitely recommend getting that set up ASAP if you haven't already!

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