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Regarding the timing - you mentioned you're 58½ now, so you have about 18 months before reaching that age 60 threshold. It might be worth explaining the situation to your girlfriend if the relationship is serious. Many people understand the importance of financial planning, especially when significant benefits are at stake. Also remember that survivor benefits can be claimed as early as age 60 (with a reduction), or you can wait until your Full Retirement Age for the full amount. This is another factor to consider in your overall planning.

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Thank you for this detailed information. I think I need to run some actual numbers to see what the financial difference would be. Then I can decide if it's worth having that potentially awkward conversation about postponing marriage for benefit eligibility reasons. I appreciate everyone's insights on both the technical and personal aspects of this decision.

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As someone who works in financial planning, I'd strongly recommend getting an official benefit estimate from SSA before making this decision. You can create a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov to see your projected benefits and potentially request a survivor benefit estimate. Given that you mentioned your late wife had a much stronger work record over 22 years, the financial impact of timing this decision could be substantial - potentially thousands of dollars per month difference. Also consider that if you do wait until 60 to remarry, you'll have more flexibility in your claiming strategy. You could potentially claim reduced survivor benefits at 60 and then switch to your own (possibly higher) retirement benefit later if that makes sense. Having actual numbers will help you make an informed decision and might make the conversation with your girlfriend easier - framing it as responsible financial planning rather than just delaying marriage.

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This is really helpful advice about getting the actual numbers first! I hadn't thought about creating the my Social Security account to get estimates. That would definitely give me concrete data to work with instead of just guessing about the financial impact. The claiming strategy you mentioned is interesting too - being able to take survivor benefits at 60 and potentially switch later if my own benefit grows. Having real numbers would definitely make any conversation with my girlfriend much more straightforward and factual rather than vague concerns about "benefits.

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Many online calculators provide reasonable estimates but lack the nuance of your complete earnings history. Some financial advisors offer more comprehensive analysis. Be wary of

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I went through this exact decision two years ago and ended up waiting until my FRA at 67. Here's what helped me decide: I calculated the "break-even" point - how long I'd need to live for the higher monthly payments to make up for the two years of missed benefits. For my situation, it was around age 79. Since I'm in good health and women typically live longer, waiting made sense. Another factor was that my part-time work income would have made a portion of my early benefits taxable anyway. I'd definitely recommend getting personalized calculations from SSA rather than relying on online estimates - your specific earnings history makes a huge difference in these scenarios.

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Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do apply for your benefits next month, you can also ask SSA to run a benefit estimate for your husband's potential spousal benefits, even though it looks like he won't qualify based on the numbers you've shared. Sometimes there are quirks in the calculations or special circumstances that aren't immediately obvious. Plus, having that official calculation on file could be useful down the road. The worst they can say is "no additional benefits available" but at least you'll know for certain. Good luck with your application!

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That's really good advice! I hadn't thought about getting an official calculation on file even if he doesn't qualify right now. You're absolutely right that it could be useful to have that documentation for future reference. I'm learning so much from this discussion - thank you everyone for taking the time to explain all these details!

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I just went through a similar situation with my parents last year. One thing that might be worth considering - even if your husband doesn't qualify for spousal benefits now, the rules can sometimes work differently if there are changes in your circumstances later. For example, if you decide to suspend your benefits at some point (which you can do after FRA), or if there are any adjustments to your benefit amounts due to continued work or other factors. Also, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of both of your Social Security statements and any communications with SSA about this. My mom wished she had done this because when questions came up later, it was hard to reconstruct exactly what had been discussed. The SSA representatives are generally helpful, but having your own documentation makes everything smoother. Best of luck with your application next month!

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Great point about keeping detailed records! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, I'm realizing how important documentation is. Quick question - when you mention benefit suspensions, is that something people commonly do? I'm trying to understand all the strategies available once someone reaches FRA. Also, did your parents end up getting any spousal benefits after going through the process, or were they in a similar situation where the numbers didn't work out?

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Another important point: If you apply for spousal benefits now and your husband passes away later, you can switch to survivor benefits. The reduction in your survivor benefit would be based on your age at the time you apply for survivor benefits, not when you applied for spousal benefits. If you can manage financially, waiting until your full retirement age to claim spousal benefits would give you the full 50% of his PIA. However, there's always the time value of money to consider - getting some benefits for 4 years versus waiting for the full amount. I suggest creating a simple spreadsheet to calculate your lifetime expected benefits under different claiming scenarios. This can help you make a more informed decision based on your specific financial situation.

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I appreciate the detailed advice. I hadn't thought about creating a spreadsheet to compare the options - that's a great idea. I'll try to work through some numbers and see what makes the most sense for our situation.

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I went through something very similar with my mom a few years ago! One thing that really helped us was getting her complete earnings record from SSA (not just the online summary) to make sure all her work history was captured. You can request this by calling or visiting a local office. Also, since you mentioned your husband just turned 65, his SSDI benefits will automatically convert to regular retirement benefits at his full retirement age, but the dollar amount stays exactly the same. This won't affect your spousal benefit calculations at all. For what it's worth, we decided to have my mom start her spousal benefits early because we needed the monthly income, even though it meant a permanent reduction. Every family's situation is different, but sometimes the guaranteed money now is worth more than the potential for higher payments later. The peace of mind was valuable too. Have you considered visiting your local SSA office in person? I know it's a hassle, but we found the face-to-face service was much better than trying to get through on the phone.

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Thank you all for this incredibly helpful information! I've decided to schedule an appointment with SSA to go through my specific numbers before making a decision. Based on your advice, I'll ask about: 1. The exact amount I'd receive at 62 vs. FRA for both my retirement and spousal benefits 2. How the deemed filing would work in my case 3. The long-term impact of taking reduced benefits now vs. waiting It sounds like there's no way to just take spousal and let my own grow (which is what I was hoping for), but I need to understand the exact numbers before deciding. I'll try that Claimyr service to avoid the phone wait nightmare!

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That's a great approach! One more thing to consider - when you get those numbers from SSA, ask about your survivor benefits too. If your husband predeceases you, you'd be eligible for survivor benefits, which work differently than spousal benefits. Understanding this now can help with your overall planning.

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Great discussion here! I'm in a similar situation (husband on SSDI, me approaching 62) and wanted to add a few things I learned from my research: 1. You might also want to ask SSA about the "breakeven point" - the age where waiting until FRA would result in more total lifetime benefits than claiming at 62. This usually falls somewhere in your early 80s. 2. Don't forget about Medicare eligibility at 65! If you're not working and don't have other health insurance, you'll need to factor in those costs when deciding whether to claim benefits early. 3. Also consider your state's tax treatment of Social Security benefits - some states don't tax them at all, which could affect your decision. The appointment approach is smart. Make sure to bring your most recent Social Security statement and any documentation of your husband's SSDI payments. Good luck with your decision!

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