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My sister had to call like 6 or 7 times before she got someone who actually knew how to calculate survivor benefits. Not all the reps are trained on all the different benefits I guess. So frustrating!
YES! This is the problem! Most SSA employees only know the basics. Survivor calculations - especially with the restricted application strategy the OP is planning - require specialized knowledge that most reps DON'T HAVE. It's infuriating that they don't just ADMIT when they don't know something instead of giving wrong information!!!
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and it's incredibly frustrating! What finally worked for me was going to a different SSA office - apparently some locations have more experienced staff than others. The first office I went to couldn't help at all, but the second office had someone who knew exactly how to pull up survivor benefit calculations. Also, try asking them to print out your husband's earnings record (Form SSA-7004). Even if they can't calculate your exact survivor benefit on the spot, having his complete earnings history can help you or a financial advisor estimate what you should expect. The survivor benefit is typically based on what he was receiving (or would have received at FRA), so that earnings record is key. One more tip - bring a notebook and write down the name of whoever helps you. If you get conflicting information later, you can reference who told you what. I learned this the hard way after getting three different benefit estimates from three different reps!
This is really smart advice about trying different SSA offices! I hadn't thought about the fact that some locations might have more experienced staff than others. I'm definitely going to request my husband's earnings record (Form SSA-7004) - that's a great suggestion even if they can't do the calculation right away. And you're absolutely right about writing down names - I wish I had done that from the beginning. Thank you for sharing what worked for you!
One more important thing to know: when you apply for the divorced spouse benefit, SSA won't tell your ex-husband. Some people worry about this, but your application won't affect his benefit amount or generate any notification to him. Also, if your ex-husband has remarried, it doesn't affect your eligibility for benefits on his record. When you do apply, be prepared for SSA to request: - Proof of your SSDI entitlement (they should have this already) - Marriage certificate - Final divorce decree - Your ex's Social Security number (helpful but not required) Good luck with your application!
That's a relief to know he won't be notified. We haven't spoken in years, and I'd prefer to keep it that way. I'll gather all those documents and try using that Claimyr service to get through to SSA. Thank you all for the helpful information!
I went through this exact situation about two years ago! I was on SSDI and discovered I could get divorced spouse benefits on my ex's record. Here's what I learned from the process: The math is straightforward - if 50% of your ex's PIA is higher than your current SSDI amount, you get the difference. In your case with $1,420 SSDI, your ex would need at least $2,841 for you to get even $1 extra. A few practical tips from my experience: - Apply as soon as possible if you think you qualify - they can backdate up to 6 months - Make certified copies of ALL documents (marriage cert, divorce decree) before sending anything - When your SSDI converts to retirement at FRA, the divorced spouse calculation stays exactly the same The hardest part was actually getting through to SSA! I ended up going to my local office in person after multiple phone failures. Brought all my paperwork and was approved within about 6 weeks. One thing that surprised me - they calculated his PIA based on when he COULD have filed at FRA, not what he's actually collecting now (in case he filed early or delayed). So even if his current check is reduced, you might still qualify. Don't give up on trying to reach them - this benefit can make a real difference!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing your real experience! The detail about them using his PIA from when he could have filed at FRA versus what he's actually collecting is something I hadn't heard before - that's really important to know. I'm definitely going to try the in-person route at my local office if I can't get through by phone. Did they require an appointment or were you able to walk in? Also, when you say they can backdate up to 6 months, does that mean from when you first applied or from when you became eligible? Your story gives me hope that this is worth pursuing. Even a small monthly increase would help with rising costs. Thank you for taking the time to explain the whole process!
Just wanted to add something that helped me when I went through this same situation - you can actually check your benefit adjustments online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov. Under "View Benefit Details" it shows your current benefit amount and any pending adjustments. This helped me track when my benefit was restored after I reported lower earnings. Also, if you're planning to work part-time for several more years before FRA, consider setting up automatic notifications when you're getting close to the earnings limit. I use a simple spreadsheet to track my monthly earnings so I don't accidentally go over again. It's much easier to manage your hours proactively than deal with the benefit reduction and restoration process!
This is really helpful advice! I didn't know about the benefit details section in the online account - I'll definitely check that out. The spreadsheet idea is genius too. I've been kind of winging it with my work schedule, but you're right that it would be so much better to track earnings proactively rather than scramble to fix things after going over the limit. Thanks for the practical tips!
I went through this exact scenario a couple years ago! Yes, the benefit reductions are definitely NOT permanent - they recalculate annually based on your actual earnings. When my hours got cut and I fell back under the earnings limit, SSA restored my full benefit amount within about 6-8 weeks after I reported the change. The key thing is to report your new earnings estimate as soon as you know your income will be lower. Don't wait until the end of the year! You can do this online through your ssa.gov account or by calling (though good luck getting through - the wait times are brutal). One tip that saved me a lot of hassle: when you report the change, ask them to confirm the effective date when your full benefits will resume. Get that in writing if possible. I had mine restored retroactively to the month I reported the change, but I know others who had delays in processing. Also keep in mind that even if they reduce your benefits now, you'll get credit for those withheld months when you reach your FRA. So in the long run, you're not really "losing" that money - just getting it redistributed over time.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience and the timeline - knowing it took 6-8 weeks helps me set realistic expectations. I'm definitely going to report my earnings change right away and ask for that effective date confirmation like you suggested. It's also reassuring to know about getting credit for the withheld months at FRA. I feel so much more confident about navigating this situation now!
I'm so sorry for your loss. Having gone through something similar with my late father's benefits, I wanted to share a few practical tips that might help: 1. **Documentation prep**: Gather your husband's death certificate, your marriage certificate, both of your Social Security cards, and your ID before contacting SSA. Having everything ready will make the process smoother. 2. **Get specific calculations**: When you do reach SSA, ask them to calculate your exact benefit amounts for each scenario - survivor benefits at 61, at FRA, your own retirement at 62, and at 70. They can run these numbers and show you the lifetime benefit comparison. 3. **Consider the "do-over" option**: If you take survivor benefits early and later realize your own benefit at 70 would be much higher, you might be able to withdraw your survivor application within 12 months and pay back what you received (though this has strict rules). 4. **Health considerations**: Don't forget to factor in your health and family longevity when deciding between getting money now vs. waiting for higher payments later. The emotional exhaustion you're feeling is completely normal. Take your time with this decision - you don't have to rush into anything. The numbers will help guide you, but ultimately you need to choose what gives you the most peace of mind during this difficult time.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much! I didn't know about the "do-over" option - that's really good to know in case I make the wrong choice initially. I have all those documents ready from dealing with other aspects of his passing, so at least that part is organized. You're absolutely right about not rushing - I think I've been putting pressure on myself to figure this all out quickly, but I do have time to make the right decision. The health consideration is something I hadn't really thought about deeply, but it's important since my family tends to live into their 90s. I really appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed advice during what I know is probably a busy time for everyone.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a spouse is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate these complex benefit decisions while grieving makes it even harder. Based on what others have shared, it sounds like you're on the right track with your thinking. Since you'll be 61 when you retire in March 2025, you can definitely take survivor benefits then (they start at 60, not 62). The key question is whether your own benefit at age 70 would be higher than the survivor benefit at your FRA. One thing that might help reduce some stress: you don't have to make this decision right now. You could retire in March, live off savings/part-time income for a few months, and use that time to get the benefit calculations from SSA without the pressure of needing the money immediately. Also, consider reaching out to your local SSA office to schedule an in-person appointment rather than trying to get through on the phone. As others mentioned, bring all your documents (death certificate, marriage certificate, both Social Security cards, your ID) and write down your questions beforehand. Take care of yourself during this process. These financial decisions are important, but your emotional well-being matters too. The right choice is the one that gives you financial security and peace of mind.
Giovanni Rossi
I went back to work after 2 years on disability (not nursing, office work). The most important thing is DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!! Write down every call to SSA with date, time, who you spoke to, and what they said. I got conflicting info from 3 different SSA reps and the only way I protected myself was showing I'd followed the guidance I was given. Good luck!
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Haley Bennett
As someone who just went through the return-to-work process after being on SSDI for 3 years, I can't stress enough how important it is to get everything in writing from SSA before you start. I made the mistake of relying on verbal information from phone calls and ended up with a mess when my case worker changed. Here's what I wish I'd known: request a written confirmation of your TWP status before starting any job. If you've never used your TWP months, you're in a great position. The desk job sounds like the smart choice - you can always transition to more demanding work later if your health allows. One more tip: if you do go with the ICU position, consider asking for accommodations under ADA like supportive shoes, compression socks, or frequent breaks. Your employer might be willing to work with you, especially given the nursing shortage. Whatever you decide, don't let fear keep you from trying. The safety nets are there for a reason, and at 61 with your experience, you have valuable skills that shouldn't go to waste if you're able to use them.
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