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i wonder if her retirement $ will be affected by the Windfall Elimination Provision? my cousin had problems with that when he switched from government pension to social security
Update: Thank you everyone for all the great advice! I talked to my sister and we're going to start gathering her documents now and plan to apply in March (3 months before her birthday as suggested). I've also helped her create an account on my.ssa.gov to check her earnings record. According to the estimate, her retirement benefit would be about $1,120/month, which is definitely better than her current SSI payment! We're also going to check on how this might affect her Medicaid coverage since that's really important for her health needs.
MAKE SURE you print out copies of EVERYTHING from the website!!! Screenshots too!!! The SSA will claim they never got her application or lose her records, they ALWAYS do this!!!
That's wonderful that you're being so proactive in helping your sister! The $1,120 estimate sounds promising. Just a heads up - when you apply in March, make sure to ask specifically about coordinating the transition between SSI and retirement benefits to avoid any payment gaps. Some offices handle this better than others. You might also want to call your state's Medicaid office separately to understand exactly how the income change will affect her coverage, since the rules vary by state. Good luck with everything!
One more important thing - in your Scenario 3, if your wife passes away while you're both 64, and you want to take survivor benefits immediately, remember you'd need to apply for those benefits. They're not automatic. And if you're still working, the earnings test would apply until you reach FRA as someone else mentioned. Also be aware that taking survivor benefits doesn't affect your own retirement benefit growth. Your retirement benefit would still grow with delayed retirement credits until 70, regardless of whether you're receiving survivor benefits.
That's a key point about the survivor benefits not being automatic - thank you! And it's reassuring to confirm that my own retirement benefit would continue to grow even while I'm receiving survivor benefits. That makes the strategy even more attractive assuming I can navigate the earnings test issues.
I'm also navigating this maze of survivor benefits planning with my spouse! Reading through all these responses, it's clear that getting accurate information is half the battle. One thing I learned from my own research that might help - the SSA has Publication 05-10084 "Survivors Benefits" that breaks down the reduction percentages more clearly than their website does. Also, regarding the conflicting information about survivor benefits when someone dies after FRA but before claiming - I believe Mei Lin is correct. If you die between your FRA and age 70 without having claimed, your survivor would get your benefit INCLUDING the delayed retirement credits you've earned up to that point, not just your FRA amount. This is different from if you had already started claiming reduced benefits. The earnings test complication is real though. We're in a similar situation where we're both still working, and it really does throw a wrench into any early claiming strategies. Have you considered whether either of you might reduce work hours or retire early to make survivor benefit claiming more feasible if needed?
Thanks for all the great advice everyone! I'm definitely going to file in May/June when I hit my FRA. I'll also look into increasing my 401k contributions - that's a great suggestion for managing the tax situation. This has been incredibly helpful!
Great decision on filing in May/June! Just wanted to add one more tip - when you do file, make sure to ask SSA about having federal taxes withheld from your monthly benefits if you're concerned about owing taxes next year. You can have 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% withheld automatically. Given that you'll have both work income and SS benefits, this might save you from having to make quarterly estimated tax payments or owing a big chunk at tax time. You can always adjust the withholding later if needed!
Just to clarify a technical point about survivor benefits: if your spouse claims survivor benefits before her own FRA, she would receive a reduced percentage (between 71.5% and 99% depending on how early she claims). But if she waits until her FRA, she'll receive 100% of your benefit amount - either your reduced benefit if you keep your early claim, or your full FRA benefit if you withdraw and later reapply. Also, remember that while you can withdraw now and reapply at your FRA (66 and 10 months), you could alternatively withdraw and then wait until age 70 to maximize your benefit (and subsequently your wife's survivor benefit). This would give you an additional 28.8% above your FRA amount through delayed retirement credits.
As a newcomer here, I just wanted to say this is such a helpful discussion! I'm not in this exact situation yet, but at 58, I'm starting to think seriously about when to claim Social Security. Reading about the withdrawal option and how it affects survivor benefits is really eye-opening. I had no idea you could essentially "reset" your application within that first year. The technical details from @Ava Rodriguez and the real-world experience from @Miguel Diaz really help paint the full picture. It sounds like this decision requires careful consideration of both your financial situation and your spouse's long-term security. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and experiences!
Paolo Marino
btw if u really need the info before the 1099 comes u can calculate it yourself... just look at the deposit amount in his bank account, that's what my tax guy told us to do last year when we were in the same boat
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Natasha Petrova
•While you can use the payment amount as an estimate, I would caution against filing taxes using only the bank deposit information. The SSA-1099 might include other adjustments or withholdings that aren't obvious from the payment amount alone. It's best to wait for the official form to ensure accuracy.
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Keisha Taylor
•Good point - we're not in a huge rush, so I think we'll wait for the official form. Just wanted to make sure we weren't missing something obvious. Thanks everyone for all the helpful information!
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Zara Khan
Welcome to the SSA community! I went through this exact situation with my father-in-law two years ago. Since your husband's first payment was in December 2024, he will definitely receive a SSA-1099 for that tax year. The key things to remember: 1) New beneficiaries are often processed in the final batch, so expect it by mid-February at the latest, 2) It will show up under "Replacement Documents" in his mySocialSecurity portal once available, and 3) The SSA will also mail a paper copy to your address on file. Don't stress too much - this delay is completely normal for December starters. The amount on the 1099 should match exactly what was deposited into his account that month.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Thank you for the warm welcome and detailed explanation! It's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation. I feel much better knowing that the delay is normal for December starters. We'll keep checking the portal over the next few weeks and won't panic if it takes until mid-February. Really appreciate all the community support here - you've all been so helpful!
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