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Social Security nightmare with incorrect WEP calculation finally getting fixed after 5 years of appeals

I cannot believe I might finally see the light at the end of this 5-year Social Security tunnel! Yesterday I spoke with someone at SSA about my messed-up benefit calculation (they've been applying WEP incorrectly since 2020). The specialist I talked to was ACTUALLY COMPETENT and immediately spotted all the errors in my file! She was literally messaging with their technical team while I was on the phone and said she was sending an urgent correction request to the processing center. She seemed genuinely shocked at how badly they mangled my case despite all the documentation I've submitted over the years.I've been through reconsideration, formal appeals, and now I'm waiting for an ALJ hearing date (which who knows when that'll happen). The rep told me to call back in 10 days to check on the correction status and to "keep on them" about it. I'm gonna give them 2 weeks before following up.Has anyone else had their WEP calculation fixed without having to go through the full ALJ hearing? This has been such a nightmare - my monthly benefit is over $740 less than it should be! I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but for the first time, someone at SSA actually acknowledged the errors!

Thank you! I'll definitely look into this and talk to my tax person. I hadn't even thought about the tax implications until now - just been focused on getting the calculation fixed.

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Wow, reading your story gives me hope! I've been dealing with a similar WEP mess for 3 years now. My situation is a bit different - I taught in a state where teachers didn't pay into SS for the first 10 years of my career, then moved to a state where we do pay in. SSA has been calculating my WEP reduction based on the full pension amount instead of just the non-covered portion, which is completely wrong. I've been getting the runaround with reconsideration and they keep sending me form letters saying my calculation is correct when it's obviously not. The most frustrating part is that I have all the documentation showing exactly which years were covered vs non-covered, but they seem to just ignore it. Your tip about asking for a Technical Expert is golden - I didn't even know that was a thing! I'm definitely going to try that on my next call. And I'll check out that Claimyr service too because I'm so tired of spending hours on hold just to get disconnected. Fingers crossed your correction goes through quickly! Please keep us updated on how it goes. Stories like yours remind me not to give up fighting this.

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Calculating survivor benefits when both spouses are on SSDI - will I get any increase?

I need some advice about survivor benefits for SSDI recipients. My husband and I have both been on Social Security Disability for about 5 years now. I'm receiving $2350 monthly and he gets $3260. We're both 64 years old and have been married for 16 years. With his health declining rapidly, I'm trying to prepare myself financially for what's ahead. If he passes away, would I be eligible for any survivor benefits? Would I get to keep my SSDI payment plus something additional, or would I just get whichever is higher? I've tried calling SSA multiple times but keep getting disconnected after waiting forever. Any insights would be so appreciated.

One more important point: If your husband is a veteran, check with the VA as well. There may be additional survivor benefits available through them that are separate from Social Security. Also, once you're on survivor benefits, you'll still get the annual Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA) that Social Security provides. And if you're not already enrolled in Medicare, that's something else to consider as you approach 65.

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He's not a veteran, but the Medicare reminder is helpful. I'm enrolled in Part A but haven't done B yet since it comes out of our SSDI. I should look into that too. Thank you all again for your advice during this difficult time. It's given me some peace of mind to understand what to expect.

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I want to add something that might be helpful - consider contacting your local Area Agency on Aging. They often have Social Security experts who can help you understand your benefits and even assist with applications at no cost. They're usually much easier to reach than SSA directly and can provide personalized guidance for your situation. Many also offer grief counseling and other support services that might be valuable during this difficult time. You can find your local agency at eldercare.acl.gov. Wishing you and your husband strength during this challenging period.

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Social Security hearing date wait time for disabled adult child (DAC) claim - how to prepare my anxious daughter

Our family is navigating the SSDI appeals process for my 22-year-old daughter who has a rare chromosomal deletion that affects her intellectual and mental functioning. We just secured an attorney after the reconsideration denial, and now we're waiting for the ALJ hearing. Two questions I'm really struggling with: 1) How long do these hearing wait times typically take? Our attorney mentioned 6-9 months but wasn't certain. Anyone gone through this recently? 2) My daughter currently receives benefits on her disabled father's record, but I've been told she needs to qualify for SSDI on her own to be eligible for Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits. Is pursuing DAC benefits part of this same hearing process, or is that completely separate? My biggest worry is the hearing itself. My daughter gets extremely anxious around strangers, especially men, and can completely shut down during stressful conversations. She'll either not respond at all or just say whatever she thinks they want to hear. How much will she need to speak directly to the judge? Should we request a female judge if possible? Any tips for preparing someone with intellectual disabilities for this kind of hearing? The SSA already denied her at reconsideration saying they "don't have enough evidence" of disability, which is frustrating because her chromosomal deletion is documented and causes progressive issues. It feels like they're ignoring her actual condition.

Regarding preparing your daughter for the hearing: 1. Request accommodations in advance - your attorney should file this request 2. Practice simple questions about daily activities but don't over-rehearse (judges can tell) 3. If possible, show the judge documentation of her communication difficulties from a psychologist or doctor 4. Consider requesting a video hearing if in-person would be too stressful 5. You can request a female judge, though this may further delay your hearing date Remember that the judge will likely have a medical expert and vocational expert present who will do much of the technical testimony. Your daughter will primarily need to answer questions about her daily life and limitations. One important tip: make sure your attorney emphasizes that your daughter's presentation on her 'best day' is not representative of her typical functioning. People with intellectual disabilities often mask their difficulties in formal settings through learned coping mechanisms.

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THIS!! My son does the same thing - puts on his 'best behavior' for doctors and then they don't see his real struggles. It's so frustrating because then they write in their reports that he seems 'fine' when that's NOTHING like how he functions day to day. Make sure your attorney understands this masking behavior!!

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The national average wait time for an ALJ hearing is currently around 8-10 months, though some offices are faster and others significantly slower. You can check the average processing time for your specific hearing office on SSA's website. Regarding the DAC benefits: This is actually a common misunderstanding. If your daughter meets the criteria for disability under SSA rules, and her disability began before age 22, she may be eligible for DAC benefits on her father's record regardless of whether she qualifies for SSDI on her own record (which would require sufficient work credits). Since her father is already receiving SSDI, she could potentially receive up to 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount as a DAC benefit. For the hearing preparation, your attorney should request specific accommodations based on your daughter's condition. The judge is required to make reasonable accommodations under the Americans with Disabilities Act. This might include: 1. Having you present to help explain or rephrase questions 2. Allowing written responses if verbal communication is difficult 3. Scheduling breaks during the hearing if needed 4. Using simple, direct language and questions Make sure all medical records clearly document her communication difficulties so these accommodation requests are supported by evidence.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize we could request specific accommodations like having me help explain questions. And thank you for clarifying about the DAC benefits - our attorney hasn't been great at explaining this part. Do you know if we need to specifically request DAC benefits or is this something that would automatically be considered once her disability is established?

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You'll need to specifically apply for DAC benefits - it's not automatic. Since your daughter is already receiving benefits on her father's record, SSA should have her information in their system, but you'll still need to file a separate application for DAC benefits once her disability is established. The timing can be tricky though. Some attorneys recommend waiting until after the SSDI hearing decision before applying for DAC, while others suggest filing both applications simultaneously. Since DAC benefits can be retroactive, you won't lose out on back pay by waiting, but getting both processed together might be more efficient. Your attorney should be able to advise on the best strategy for your specific situation. If they're not being clear about this, don't hesitate to ask them to explain the process step by step - you have every right to understand what's happening with your daughter's case.

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Social Security survivor benefits prorating between age percentages - how does SSA calculate at 66y6mo?

I'm trying to figure out if Social Security prorates survivor benefits when you apply between age milestones. My husband passed away last year, and I'm trying to make the smartest decision about when to claim. Looking at the SSA chart, at age 65 survivor benefits are 91.86% of my husband's benefit, and at age 66 they're 95.93%. If I apply at exactly 66 years and 6 months, would my benefit percentage be prorated to something in between those two percentages? Or does SSA just use the lower percentage until you hit the next full year? The difference might not seem huge but over years it adds up. I've read through the SSA website but can't find a clear answer about prorating between these specific percentage points. Anyone know how this works?

One more thing to consider - if you're eligible for both your own retirement benefit AND survivor benefits, you have additional options. You could take your own reduced retirement benefit at 62 and then switch to the full survivor benefit at your survivor FRA (66+8mo). Or take the reduced survivor benefit early and switch to your own benefit at 70 if it would be higher with delayed retirement credits. This is one of the few remaining ways to use a "claim now, claim more later" strategy since the 2015 law changes.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered! My own benefit would be less than my husband's, but maybe I should talk to a financial advisor about the best strategy. Seems like there might be more options than I realized.

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I went through this exact calculation with my mom when my dad passed in 2019. She was born in 1957 so her survivor FRA was 66 and 6 months. What really helped us was creating a spreadsheet to compare the monthly benefit amounts at different claiming ages. Don't forget that once you start receiving survivor benefits, you'll also get annual cost-of-living adjustments (COLA), so starting a bit earlier might make sense depending on your financial situation. Also, survivor benefits aren't subject to the earnings test once you reach your survivor FRA, which is different from regular retirement benefits. The SSA representatives can run benefit estimates for you at different ages if you call with your husband's Social Security number and death certificate information.

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Will 2025 COLA increase apply to my Social Security benefits starting in February?

I just completed my Social Security retirement application last month and selected January 2, 2025 as my start date. SSA confirmed I'll get my first payment in February and told me the monthly amount I'll receive. What I'm confused about is whether the 2025 COLA (cost of living adjustment) will be included in that February payment or if it only applies to people who were already receiving benefits before 2025. When I check my estimated benefit amount on mySocialSecurity, the number they're showing doesn't seem to include the COLA increase. Anyone know how this works with a January enrollment date? I thought the COLA applied to all 2025 payments regardless of when you started benefits.

Update: I finally got through to SSA this morning after trying for days! They confirmed that yes, my February payment (for January) WILL include the 2025 COLA. The representative explained that what I'm seeing online is my base amount before the COLA adjustment. She said the online portal won't display the updated amount until my claim is fully processed in January. Mystery solved! Thanks everyone for your help.

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Great news! This is exactly what I was explaining about how their systems work. Once January processing runs, your online account will show the updated amount. Glad you got confirmation directly from SSA.

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That's fantastic that you got confirmation directly from SSA! This is such a common source of confusion for new retirees. Your experience really highlights why it's worth the effort to call and get official confirmation rather than relying on the online estimates during the transition period. Hopefully your post helps other people in similar situations understand that the COLA will automatically be included in their 2025 payments, even if they're just starting benefits. Enjoy your retirement!

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