I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my mom (she's 65). Her husband passed away last month and we're trying to figure out her survivor benefits too. One thing I learned from the SSA office is that they sometimes quote percentages differently than we expect. When they told my mom she'd get "90% of his benefit," what they actually meant was 90% of what he was receiving at the time of death, but since he had delayed retirement credits from waiting until 70, that 90% was still more than his full retirement age amount would have been. Also, make sure your sister-in-law understands that if she switches to survivor benefits, she gives up her own retirement benefit. It's not additive - it's whichever is higher. The SSA rep should have explained this to her, but sometimes they assume people already know. Has she received her first survivor benefit payment yet, or is she just going off what the SSA rep told her during the application? Sometimes there's a difference between the initial estimate and the actual payment amount.

I work for a nonprofit that helps seniors navigate Social Security benefits, and this type of confusion comes up frequently. The 94% figure your sister-in-law mentioned is almost certainly not her actual reduction percentage for claiming survivor benefits early. Here's what likely happened: Since her husband waited until age 70 to claim, his benefit included delayed retirement credits that boosted it to about 132% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). When she claims survivor benefits at 63 and 2 months, she gets roughly 82% of his PIA due to the early claiming reduction. But 82% of his PIA might equal around 94% of what he was actually receiving monthly (since his actual benefit was inflated by delayed credits). So she's probably getting about $2,665 per month (82% of his PIA), which happens to be roughly 94% of his $3,250 monthly payment. The percentage she quoted refers to his actual payment, not the standard survivor benefit calculation. She should definitely review her MySocialSecurity account or award letter to see the exact calculation. Also confirm she understands that switching to survivor benefits means giving up her $1,100 retirement benefit - it's not both benefits combined.

I'm a Social Security claims specialist and can confirm that the representative you spoke with was completely incorrect. As a widow, you absolutely retain the right to choose between your own retirement benefit and your survivor benefit, and you can switch between them at any time to maximize your total lifetime benefits. The confusion likely stems from the 2015 changes to spousal benefits (for married couples), but those changes did NOT affect survivor benefits. The "deemed filing" rule that eliminates choice only applies to spousal benefits, not survivor benefits. Your proposed strategy - taking your own benefit now and switching to survivor benefits at FRA - is a legitimate and often recommended approach. However, before proceeding, I'd suggest getting exact benefit calculations for both scenarios: 1. Your current reduced retirement benefit vs. your full survivor benefit at FRA 2. Your current reduced survivor benefit vs. your delayed retirement benefit at age 70 When you call back, ask specifically for the "survivor benefits unit" and reference Section 404.335 of their regulations regarding benefit switching for survivors. Also request a written benefit estimate for both options. Don't accept verbal estimates - get everything in writing to avoid future confusion. I've seen this misinformation happen far too often, and it's concerning how many widows are getting incorrect guidance on such an important financial decision.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that incorrect information during an already stressful time! As someone who recently went through the Social Security maze myself, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - you absolutely CAN take your own retirement benefit now and switch to survivor benefits at your FRA. The representative you spoke with was definitely wrong, and unfortunately this seems to happen way too often. I had to call three different times before getting someone who actually understood the survivor benefit rules correctly. What really helped me was calling early in the morning (around 8 AM) and specifically asking to be transferred to someone who specializes in survivor benefits. One thing I'd also suggest is logging into your MySocialSecurity account online before you call back - you can see estimates there for both your retirement benefit and survivor benefit amounts, which will help you ask better questions and verify that the representative is giving you accurate calculations. Don't give up! The rules are definitely on your side here, you just need to find someone at SSA who actually knows them. Wishing you the best of luck getting this sorted out properly.

Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm going to: 1. Gather documentation about when my vacation time was earned 2. Fill out that SSA-131 form to report it as a special payment 3. Try using Claimyr to actually reach someone at SSA (thanks for that tip!) 4. Continue tracking my monthly earnings carefully for the rest of 2025 It's such a relief to know the vacation pay likely won't count against me. This community has been more helpful than hours of reading the SSA website!

Great plan, Aaliyah! You're taking all the right steps. Just wanted to add one more tip - when you do connect with SSA, ask them to make a note in your file about the vacation pay discussion so there's a record of it. That way if any questions come up later, they'll have documentation of the conversation. Also, don't be discouraged if the first person you talk to isn't sure about the special payment rules - sometimes it takes speaking with a supervisor or someone more experienced with earnings test issues. The key is that you're being proactive about reporting everything correctly. You've got this! It sounds like you're handling a complicated situation really well.

This is such valuable information for families! I'm in a similar situation - my husband is planning to retire next year and we have a 14-year-old. I had no idea the children could get benefits even if I'm not collecting yet. One thing I'm wondering about - do the kids need to provide any special documentation when you apply for their benefits, like birth certificates or school enrollment records? And does it matter if they live with both parents or if there's a custody arrangement involved? Want to make sure I have everything ready when the time comes!

I just went through this process myself about 6 months ago when I retired early at 62. My twins were 16 at the time and I was worried about the same thing since my spouse won't be eligible for another 5 years. The good news is that your kids absolutely CAN get benefits based on just your record! When I filed for my retirement benefits, I made sure to mention I had minor children during the application process. The SSA representative walked me through everything and set up their benefits at the same time. Each of my kids now receives about 40% of my benefit amount (it would have been 50% each but the family maximum kicked in slightly). The whole process was actually smoother than I expected once I got the right person on the phone. My advice is to apply for everything together in one appointment - don't wait or try to add the kids later as a separate process. Also keep good records because you'll get annual forms to report how you're using the children's benefit money.

Since several people have mentioned the earnings test, let me provide some clarity on that since it might affect your decision: 1. For 2025, the earnings limit is projected to be around $22,800 if you're under full retirement age for the full year (this is an estimate based on current trends). 2. If you earn over that amount, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 you earn above the limit. 3. However, it's important to understand that this isn't a penalty - it's a deferral. After you reach FRA, your benefit will be recalculated to give you credit for months when benefits were withheld. 4. If you're planning to continue working full-time at a job with significant earnings, you might want to calculate whether it makes sense to claim at 60 or wait until your earnings decrease or you reach FRA. I strongly recommend discussing these specifics with an SSA representative who can look at your exact situation and provide personalized guidance.

I'm in a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my SSA appointment last month. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to compare different scenarios before my meeting. I calculated: 1. What I'd receive at 60 with the earnings test reduction 2. What I'd get if I waited until I could reduce my work hours 3. My break-even point for when the withheld benefits would be made up With your $65K salary, you're looking at about $42K over the earnings limit, which means roughly $21K in withheld benefits annually. Even though you get credit later, that's a significant cash flow impact. Another option to consider: some people reduce their work hours or negotiate part-time arrangements around age 60 to stay under the earnings limit while still collecting survivor benefits. It's not feasible for everyone, but worth exploring if your job allows flexibility. The SSA representative was very helpful in running through different scenarios with actual numbers from my husband's record. Don't feel like you have to figure it all out beforehand - they have tools that can show you exactly how different timing decisions would affect your benefits.