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I've been dealing with a disability for almost 7 years but never applied for benefits. Now I'm approaching 65 (birthday in June 2025) and trying to figure out my options. The problem is I don't have enough work credits to qualify for Social Security on my own record. My husband already receives Social Security retirement (he's 76) and gets around $2,750/month. I've heard conflicting information about spousal benefits. Can I really claim 50% of his benefit amount when I turn 65? Or do I need to wait until my Full Retirement Age (which I think is 66 and 10 months for my birth year)? Also completely confused about Medicare enrollment. Does it automatically start at 65 or do I need to apply? I don't want to miss any deadlines and get penalized later. Will they take the Medicare premium directly from whatever spousal benefit I might get? Really appreciate any help navigating this - the SSA website is overwhelming!
I'm trying to figure out my Social Security strategy and getting confused about the rules. I'm 62 and planning to file for my retirement benefits soon (I know it's before my full retirement age which is 67). My husband (64) has been receiving SSDI for the past 3 years due to a serious back injury that left him unable to work. Here's what I'm trying to understand: Can I file for benefits on my own work record now AND still get the spousal top-up from his SSDI record even though he's not at his full retirement age yet? His SSDI payment is about $2,450 monthly while my estimated benefit at 62 would only be around $1,380. I realize I'll get a reduced amount for filing early, but our mortgage is almost paid off and I'd rather start collecting something now. I've looked at the SSA website but the explanations about SSDI spouses vs regular retirement spouses are making my head spin! Has anyone navigated this specific situation? Thanks in advance for any insights!
Whatever you do, make sure you ask specifically about how early filing affects the spousal portion!! My sister-in-law messed this up and is getting way less than she expected because she didn't understand how the reductions were applied.
I'm in a very similar situation - 63 and considering filing early while my husband is on SSDI. From what I've researched and heard from others, you definitely can receive both your own retirement benefit and potentially a spousal supplement from his SSDI record. The key thing to understand is that when you file for your own benefits before FRA, you're automatically considered to be filing for any spousal benefits you're eligible for too (this is called "deemed filing"). So SSA will calculate both and give you whichever combination results in the higher total payment. Based on your numbers ($1,380 own benefit vs. his $2,450 SSDI), it sounds like you might not qualify for much of a spousal supplement since your benefit is already fairly close to 50% of his. But definitely get the exact calculation from SSA because there are nuances with how they figure the Primary Insurance Amounts vs. actual payments. One tip: if you can't get through to SSA by phone (and trust me, it's nearly impossible), try going to your local office in person early in the morning. I found they were much more helpful face-to-face and could run all the scenarios for me on the spot. Good luck!
My family's been surviving on Social Security survivors benefits since my husband passed away 12 years ago. My daughter (who has significant disabilities) and I each receive about $1,350 monthly. She's turning 16 in a few months, and I'm trying to understand what happens next with our benefits. From what I've gathered, at 16 I need to have SSA formally deem her disabled to continue her benefits. But I'm confused about what happens to MY benefits as her mother? Do I lose my mother's benefits when she turns 16, even though she'll still be receiving her survivors benefits as a disabled child? If I do lose my benefits, I'll have to transition from part-time to full-time work (I'm only 43). Will my increased income affect her disabled child survivors benefits? I've been keeping my income limited because I was afraid of affecting our current benefits, but I'm drowning in debt and need to make changes if my check stops. I'm getting conflicting information about whether I need to wait until she's 18 for adult disability or if the disability determination at 16 is enough to continue both our benefits. The local office wasn't very clear about this transition process. Any advice would be so appreciated - I need to plan ahead if my income is about to drop significantly!
Another consideration: once your daughter turns 18, even if she continues on survivor's benefits as a disabled adult child (DAC), she might also qualify for SSI if those survivor benefits are below the maximum federal benefit rate (currently $943/month for 2023). Also, when she turns 18, think about whether you should become her representative payee. If her disabilities affect her ability to manage finances, having you continue as her payee might be best. SSA will evaluate this when she transitions to adult benefits. Regarding work - some parents in your situation find that working full-time actually improves their overall financial situation because of benefits like health insurance and retirement contributions, even after accounting for the loss of SS benefits. It's worth doing a complete financial analysis.
You've given me a lot to think about regarding long-term planning. I hadn't considered the representative payee situation for when she turns 18, but that makes sense. She wouldn't be able to manage her finances independently. I'll definitely look into the potential for SSI supplementation as well. Thanks for these additional considerations!
I went through this exact situation 3 years ago with my son who has autism and intellectual disability. Here's what I wish I had known: 1. Start the CDB application NOW - don't wait. I made the mistake of waiting until 2 months before his 16th birthday and it was a nightmare of stress. 2. Get a comprehensive psychological evaluation done by a neuropsychologist if you don't have one recent. SSA weighs these heavily for intellectual and developmental disabilities. 3. Consider opening a special needs trust or ABLE account now while you still have time to plan. Once she's 18 and potentially on SSI, asset limits become really important. 4. Document EVERYTHING about her daily care needs. I kept a daily log for 2 months showing what assistance she needed with activities of daily living - this helped enormously with the determination. The financial hit when you lose your benefits is real, but manageable if you plan ahead. I actually ended up in a better place financially after a year of full-time work, plus my son qualified for additional state services we didn't know about before. One more tip: if your local SSA office isn't helpful, try calling the national number and asking to speak with a disability specialist. Some offices are just more knowledgeable than others.
I'm trying to figure out my options for the future. I'm 63 and my current husband is 71. We've been married for 13 years. I was also previously married for 18 years to my ex. Both my current husband and my ex-husband have higher lifetime earnings than me. I'm wondering about survivor benefits if my current husband passes away before me. Would I be eligible for survivor benefits from either one of them? Can I choose whichever would give me the higher amount? I'm not planning to claim my own retirement benefits until I reach my full retirement age, but I want to understand all my options for the future. Thanks for any clarification!
Just one more thing to keep in mind: When calculating survivor benefits, the age at which the deceased claimed their own benefits can affect the survivor benefit amount. If they claimed early (before FRA), that can reduce the survivor benefit. If they delayed claiming (after FRA), the survivor benefit includes those delayed retirement credits. Also, should either your current husband or ex-husband pass away, you should contact Social Security promptly. As another commenter mentioned, retroactive benefits are limited, and the application process can take time. Having all your documentation ready (marriage certificates, divorce decree, birth certificates, Social Security numbers) will make the process smoother.
Thank you for this additional information. I know my current husband is planning to delay claiming until age 72, so that would potentially increase any survivor benefit I might receive from him. I'm not sure about my ex's plans. This is all so complicated, but I appreciate everyone's help in understanding how it works.
One more consideration that might be helpful - if you're still working when you become eligible for survivor benefits, be aware of the earnings test. If you claim survivor benefits before your Full Retirement Age and you're still earning income, Social Security may temporarily reduce your benefits if your earnings exceed certain limits. For 2024, you can earn up to $22,320 without any reduction, but they'll reduce benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. Once you reach your FRA, the earnings test no longer applies. This might factor into your timing decisions if you're planning to continue working.
My husband retired from teaching in 2019 after 31 years and receives his state pension (not covered by Social Security). I've worked in the private sector my entire career and will be eligible for my own Social Security retirement next year. We never had him apply for spousal benefits on my record because we knew the Government Pension Offset (GPO) would reduce them to basically nothing. Now with all this talk about the Social Security Fairness Act possibly passing, we're wondering if he'd be eligible if the GPO is eliminated. Here's my question: since he never applied for spousal benefits before (because it made no sense with the offset), would he be required to have applied previously to qualify if the law changes? Or can he just apply once the law passes (if it does)? Anyone been through anything similar or know how this works?
my neighbor is in this exact situation and she just keeps checking the news every day hoping it'll pass. she's missing out on like $900 a month because of GPO! thats REAL money that could change her life
I'm in a similar boat as your husband! I'm a retired state employee with a pension (no SS contributions during those years) and my wife has been paying into Social Security her whole career. We've been holding off on me applying for spousal benefits because of the GPO mess. From everything I've read and heard from others here, you're absolutely right that he doesn't need to have applied previously - he can just apply once the law passes (fingers crossed it does!). The key thing is that if this bill goes through, it completely eliminates both GPO and WEP, so all those previous calculations become irrelevant. I'd definitely recommend staying on top of the legislative updates and having all your documentation ready to go. We've been keeping track through Congress.gov and contacting our representatives regularly to show support. Here's hoping 2025 is finally the year this gets fixed!
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone in the exact same situation. I've been following Congress.gov too but sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the legislative jargon. Do you have any tips on which specific updates to watch for that would signal the bill is actually moving forward versus just sitting in committee? Also, when you contact your representatives, do you mention specific dollar amounts you're losing or keep it more general? I want to make sure my message has the most impact possible.
Victoria Scott
Regarding your question about the reduction for claiming spousal benefits early: The reduction is approximately 25/36 of 1 percent for each month before your FRA, up to 36 months, and 5/12 of 1 percent for each additional month. With your FRA at 66 and 10 months, filing at exactly 65 means a reduction of about 10.56%. So instead of 50% of your husband's PIA, you'd receive about 44.7%. If your husband receives $2,750/month, his PIA is likely around $2,400-$2,500 (depending on when he started collecting). So your spousal benefit at FRA would be ~$1,200-$1,250, but at age 65 would be reduced to ~$1,075-$1,120. Is waiting 22 months worth approximately $125-$130 more per month? That's a personal decision, but mathematically it would take about 15 years of receiving the higher amount to make up for the 22 months of benefits you'd forgo by waiting.
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Ezra Collins
AuthorThis is exactly the calculation I was trying to figure out! When you break it down that way, it makes more sense to claim at 65 rather than waiting almost 2 years for just $125 more per month. Thank you for doing the math!
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Ravi Choudhury
One thing I'd add about the Medicare enrollment - don't forget about Part D (prescription drug coverage)! Even if you don't take many medications now, you'll face a late enrollment penalty if you don't sign up during your Initial Enrollment Period and decide you need it later. The penalty is 1% of the national base premium for each month you delay, and it's permanent. Also, if you have any current health insurance through your husband's employer or COBRA, make sure to coordinate the timing. You don't want a gap in coverage, but you also don't want to pay for overlapping coverage unnecessarily. Some employer plans work as secondary to Medicare once you're 65, others might terminate when you become Medicare eligible. The my Social Security online portal really is the easiest way to apply for both benefits simultaneously. You can even estimate your spousal benefit amounts using their calculators before you officially apply.
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