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I've been through a similar situation and wanted to share some practical tips that helped me prepare for when my daughter's benefits ended. First, create a written timeline now - mark your calendar for when your son turns 17.5 (to watch for that school status form), his 18th birthday, and his expected graduation date. Second, start reaching out to SSA about 4-5 months before he turns 18 to confirm the exact termination date and get any necessary forms. Third, if you're planning to modify child support when benefits end, consider consulting with a family law attorney about 6 months before the benefits stop - they can help you understand your state's specific requirements and timeline for filing. Finally, document everything - keep copies of all SSA correspondence, your annual payee reports, and records of how the benefits were used. This documentation will be helpful both for SSA and for court proceedings. The transition doesn't have to be overwhelming if you plan ahead!

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This is such excellent advice! I'm definitely going to create that timeline right away - having specific dates marked will help me feel more in control of this situation. The 6-month advance planning for the attorney consultation is particularly helpful since I know these things can take time. I've been keeping good records for the SSA payee reports, but you're right that I should organize them better for potential court use too. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process successfully. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed guidance!

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I'm new to this community but facing a similar situation with my 15-year-old daughter who receives benefits from her father's disability record. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the Student Statement form or that benefits could continue until 19 if still in high school. One thing I'm wondering about - does anyone know if the rules are different for children receiving benefits from a parent on disability versus retirement? My ex went on SSDI rather than early retirement, but I assume the age cutoffs are the same? Also, I've been struggling with those annual payee reports - they're so confusing. Does anyone have tips for organizing records throughout the year to make completing them easier?

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Welcome to the community! The age cutoffs are the same for children receiving benefits from a parent's SSDI record versus retirement - benefits continue until 18, or 19 if still in high school full-time. The Student Statement form applies to both situations too. For organizing records for those payee reports, I've found it helpful to keep a simple monthly log or use a dedicated folder (physical or digital) where I track major expenses throughout the year. I note things like housing costs (rent/mortgage portion), food expenses, clothing purchases, medical bills, school supplies, etc. Even keeping receipts in a shoebox labeled by month makes it much easier when report time comes around. Some people use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, expense type, and amount. The key is staying consistent throughout the year rather than trying to reconstruct everything at report time!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through something similar! I received a delayed profit sharing payment from a company I worked for in the late 90s, and it had zero impact on my Social Security benefits. The key thing that helped me was having the original employment agreement and profit sharing plan documents to show SSA that this money was earned decades ago. When I reported it (which I definitely recommend doing), the SSA representative was actually quite knowledgeable about these situations and immediately understood it wasn't current earned income. They made a note in my file and that was it - no reduction in benefits, no complications. The peace of mind from being upfront about it was worth it. Plus, having it properly documented in their system prevents any future questions if they ever audit or review your case. Good luck with your windfall!

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This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear! Having someone share their actual experience with a similar situation makes me feel so much more confident about handling this properly. I'm definitely going to dig up my old employment paperwork and profit sharing documents before I contact SSA. It sounds like being well-prepared with documentation makes the whole process much smoother. Thanks for sharing your story - it really helps to know that the representatives do understand these situations when they come up!

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Welcome to the community! As someone new to Social Security, I found this thread really helpful since I'm in a somewhat similar boat - not with profit sharing, but trying to understand all the income rules before I file next year. Reading through everyone's responses, it seems like the consensus is pretty clear that your 1994 profit sharing shouldn't affect your current benefits since it's not considered "earned income" for the earnings test. But I'm curious - when you do report it to SSA (which sounds like the smart thing to do), do you call them or is there a specific form you need to fill out? Also, has anyone had experience with how long it typically takes SSA to process this kind of information and confirm it won't affect your benefits? I imagine it would be nerve-wracking to wait and wonder if your next check might be reduced while they figure it out!

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Hi there! Welcome to the community! Great questions - I'm also pretty new to navigating all this Social Security stuff and finding this thread super educational. From what I've been reading on the SSA website and from others' experiences here, it sounds like you can either call their main number (1-800-772-1213) or visit your local Social Security office to report this kind of income. Some people also mentioned that having documentation ready (like old employment agreements or profit sharing plan docs) really helps speed up the process. As for timing, it seems like it varies a lot based on how busy they are and whether the representative you get is familiar with these situations. From what @Camila Jordan shared, if you re'well-prepared with paperwork, it can be pretty straightforward. But @Ellie Perry mentioned it took her 3 months to get sorted out, so I guess it really depends! I m planning'to start my benefits soon too, so I m definitely'bookmarking this thread for future reference. This community has been so helpful for understanding all these complicated rules!

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Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant - if your mom's boyfriend is currently 62 and taking reduced benefits, his monthly payment will continue to be reduced for the rest of his life. However, when he passes away (hopefully many years from now), your mom as his surviving spouse would be eligible for survivor benefits based on what he WOULD have received at his full retirement age, not his reduced amount. So even if the spousal benefit doesn't help her now, the marriage could still provide valuable survivor protection down the road. This is different from the spousal benefit calculation and something else to factor into their decision. Of course, nobody likes to think about these scenarios, but it's part of the overall financial picture when considering remarriage at this stage of life.

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That's a really thoughtful point about the survivor benefits being based on his full retirement amount rather than his reduced payment! It's good to think about the long-term financial protection aspect even if the immediate spousal benefit doesn't pan out. These kinds of considerations really show how complex Social Security planning can be when you're thinking about remarriage later in life. Thanks for bringing up that important distinction between spousal and survivor benefit calculations.

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Great thread with lots of helpful information! I just wanted to add that when your mom calls SSA to get the estimate, she should also ask about the "deemed filing" rules. Since she's already receiving her own retirement benefit and is past full retirement age, if she does become eligible for a spousal benefit after marriage, SSA will automatically pay her the higher of the two amounts. But it's still worth understanding exactly how they calculate everything so there are no surprises. Also, if they do decide to get married, make sure to keep good records of the marriage date since SSA will need proof of the marriage duration when she applies for any spousal benefits. A certified copy of the marriage certificate will be required. Good luck to your mom - it sounds like you're doing a great job helping her navigate this complex decision!

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you should check out ABLE accounts if you get disability!! we set one up for my husband and it lets you save money without losing benefits. theres income limits for SSI but not SSDI but the ABLE account is still helpful for planning

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I'm going through a similar situation right now at 59 with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia. Based on my research and consultation with a disability attorney, here's what I've learned that might help you: First, start documenting EVERYTHING now - keep a daily symptom journal, get regular medical appointments, and make sure your doctors are noting functional limitations, not just diagnoses. The SSA wants to see how your conditions prevent you from working ANY job, not just your current one. Second, consider applying for SSDI while you're still working if your condition worsens. You can work part-time and earn up to $1,550/month (2025 limit) during the application process without it affecting your claim. Third, regarding your wife's potential spousal benefits - she could claim on your SSDI record starting at 62, but it would be reduced. However, if she also qualifies for SSDI on her own record, that might be more advantageous since there's no age reduction for disability benefits. One thing that really opened my eyes: my attorney said to think of SSDI as "pre-paying" for your full retirement benefit. You've already earned it through your work credits, and disability just lets you access it early without the typical early retirement penalties. The process is daunting, but don't let that discourage you from applying if you genuinely can't work. Start gathering your medical records now - you'll need them either way.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I had no idea you could work part-time during the SSDI application process - that could really help with the financial strain during the waiting period. The daily symptom journal is something I'm going to start immediately. Can I ask how long you've been working with your disability attorney? Did you hire them before applying or after getting denied? I'm trying to figure out the best timing for getting legal help. Also, the point about SSDI being like "pre-paying" for retirement benefits really helps me think about this differently. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone in a similar situation.

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Medicare Part A forced enrollment with Social Security benefits ruined our HSA - any way out?

I'm completely frustrated with what just happened to us regarding Medicare and our HSA! I retired last November at age 70 and filed for my Social Security retirement benefits (got my first payment in January 2025). My wife still works full-time with excellent health insurance that covers both of us, so I specifically declined Medicare enrollment on my SS application because we contribute the family maximum to her HSA. Well, guess what arrived in yesterday's mail? A Medicare Part A card showing I've been automatically enrolled as of October 2024! I immediately called SSA and they told me to visit our local office to cancel it. Took half a day off work to go there, only to be told by the agent that I CANNOT cancel Medicare Part A because it's automatically provided to anyone receiving SS retirement benefits after age 65. This creates a HUGE financial problem for us. From what I understand, we're now ineligible for HSA contributions since I have Medicare Part A! We've already put $7,450 in the HSA for 2025 and had $4,900 in there for late 2024. The agent said we'll have to remove all those contributions plus earnings or face a 6% penalty on excess contributions. Does anyone know if this is actually correct? Do I really have zero options to decline Medicare Part A while collecting Social Security? The financial hit on our retirement planning is significant since we were counting on those HSA tax advantages!

I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! My husband just turned 66 and we were planning to file for his Social Security next month while continuing to max out our HSA contributions. I had NO idea about this automatic Medicare Part A enrollment issue until I saw your post. This is exactly the kind of critical information that should be prominently displayed on the Social Security application forms and website. Instead, it's buried in fine print that most people miss. We've been contributing to our HSA for 8 years specifically as part of our retirement healthcare strategy, and now we have to completely recalculate our plans. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's saving us from making the same costly mistake. We're going to delay his Social Security filing until we're ready to give up the HSA contributions. It's frustrating that the system forces this either/or choice when many people could benefit from both programs simultaneously.

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I'm so glad this post helped you avoid the same mistake! It's really frustrating how poorly communicated this rule is. When I was going through the Social Security application process, there was no clear warning about the HSA implications - just a checkbox to decline Medicare enrollment that apparently doesn't actually work for Part A when you're claiming benefits after 65. You're absolutely making the smart choice by delaying your husband's Social Security filing. We're learning the hard way that the math really doesn't work out - losing those HSA tax advantages for multiple years isn't worth starting Social Security a few months earlier. The government really needs to fix this disconnect between programs that were created decades apart but now interact in ways that hurt retirement planning. Good luck with your revised timeline! At least you found out before filing rather than getting that surprise Medicare card in the mail like we did.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - it's one of the most frustrating "gotcha" rules in the entire Social Security/Medicare system. What happened to you is unfortunately very common and perfectly legal, even though it feels completely unfair. The SSA agent was correct that you cannot decline Medicare Part A while receiving Social Security retirement benefits after age 65. This is mandated by federal law and there are no exceptions. The decline option you saw during your SS application only applies to Medicare Parts B and D, not Part A. For your HSA situation, you'll want to act quickly to avoid penalties. Contact your HSA administrator and request an "excess contribution correction" for any contributions made after your Medicare Part A effective date (October 2024). They'll calculate any earnings on those excess contributions that also need to be withdrawn. As long as you complete this before your tax filing deadline (including extensions), you can avoid the 6% penalty entirely. The silver lining is that your wife can still contribute to the HSA at the individual rate since she doesn't have Medicare coverage yet. And all your existing HSA funds remain available for tax-free medical expenses throughout retirement. This rule really needs better disclosure - too many people get blindsided by it when they're just trying to optimize their retirement planning.

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