Does anyone know when these changes actually start? I heard 2025 but not sure exactly when during the year?

I just remembered something IMPORTANT! If you have 30+ years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security, you might be COMPLETELY EXEMPT from WEP even under the current rules!!!! You should check if your 35 years of SS work all count as "substantial earnings" - the threshold changes each year. For 2023 it was around $28,050 I think?? If you have 30+ substantial years you might not even need to worry about WEP at all!!!!

Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much clearer on what to do now. I'll wait until after my husband receives his first payment in 3 months, then call SSA to make sure my spousal benefits are being processed correctly. I'll have our marriage certificate ready just in case they need it. The deemed filing information was particularly helpful - I didn't realize that would automatically tie everything together.

Just wanted to add one more tip that helped me when I went through this process - keep detailed records of every phone call you make to SSA, including the date, time, and the name of the representative you spoke with (if they give it). Also write down any reference numbers they provide. I had to call back twice because of conflicting information from different reps, and having those details helped me get everything sorted out more quickly. The system can be frustrating, but most of the SSA staff really do want to help once you get through to them. Good luck with everything, and congratulations again on starting your retirement benefits!

my cousin did somthing smart, he worked jan-oct full time then retired in nov and got 2 SS checks that yr becuz he didnt go over monthly limit for those 2 months even tho the yearly total was over

Just wanted to add something important about working for your brother's landscaping business - make sure you're clear on whether you'll be classified as an employee or independent contractor. If you're doing regular landscaping work and he controls when/how you work, you're likely an employee even if it's family. This affects how your earnings count toward the limit and how taxes are handled. Also, since landscaping can be seasonal, you might want to plan your work schedule around the earnings limit - maybe work more hours in months when you're under the limit rather than spreading it evenly throughout the year.

I'm a newcomer to this community and found this discussion incredibly informative as I'm facing a similar situation. My husband passed away two years ago, and we have a disabled adult son who receives DAC benefits based on his father's record. I've been so anxious about how my eventual retirement filing might affect his benefits, but reading everyone's experiences here has been tremendously reassuring. What strikes me most is how consistent everyone's real-world experiences have been - in every case shared here, the DAC benefits remained unchanged when the surviving spouse filed for retirement. It's also eye-opening to learn about the distinction between DAC survivor benefits versus regular disability benefits, and how important it is to use the correct terminology when speaking with SSA representatives. I'm particularly grateful for the suggestions about widow's benefits and working with a Social Security specialist. Like many of you, I've struggled with the SSA phone system and gotten conflicting information, so having these community insights and professional resources to explore gives me a much clearer path forward. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences - it's made navigating this complex system feel much less overwhelming.

I'm new to this community and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences with DAC benefits and retirement planning. As someone who recently lost my spouse and is trying to navigate the Social Security system for the first time, this discussion has been incredibly valuable. What really stands out to me is how universally consistent everyone's real-world experiences have been - every person who shared their story confirmed that DAC benefits remained completely unchanged when they or their family members filed for retirement. This consistency across different situations gives me much more confidence than the conflicting information I've gotten from multiple SSA phone calls. I'm also grateful for learning about the precise terminology to use. The distinction between "DAC survivor benefits" versus other types of disability benefits seems crucial for getting accurate information from representatives. The suggestions about widow's benefits and working with Social Security specialists have opened up planning options I hadn't considered. For newcomers like myself who are dealing with loss while trying to understand complex benefit rules, finding this supportive community where people share actual experiences rather than speculation has been incredibly reassuring. Thank you all for your willingness to help others navigate this challenging system.

my father in law got burnt by GPO so bad... worked 40 years for the county and gets zero ss even though he paid in for 10 years at a second job. this whole system is garbage

I'm in a very similar situation as a newer CSRS retiree! Filed for spousal benefits at 62 but they were immediately suspended due to GPO. I've been following the GPO reform closely and from what I understand, the new law creates a more favorable calculation but doesn't change your original month of entitlement. However, I'd strongly recommend calling SSA in early 2025 to specifically ask about your case since you never received actual payments. Some field offices are more knowledgeable about complex CSRS cases than others - if the first person doesn't seem to understand GPO thoroughly, ask to speak with someone who specializes in government pension cases. Also keep detailed notes of who you speak with and when, as you may need to reference previous conversations. The reform should at least get you some benefit instead of zero, which is progress!