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Thanks everyone for the advice! I've decided to file when I turn 70 in a few months. I'll make sure to set aside enough for taxes since I'll be dealing with both work income and SS benefits. Really appreciate all the insights!
Smart choice! One last tip - when you're ready to file, you can do it online at ssa.gov up to 4 months before you want benefits to start. So around your 69 years and 8 months mark, you could go ahead and submit your application with a start date for your 70th birthday month. That way everything's in place when you hit 70.
Just want to echo what others have said here - there's definitely no financial advantage to waiting past 70! I made this mistake myself and didn't file until I was 71 because I thought there might be some additional benefit for high earners who continue working. Nope! I basically threw away a year of payments that I can never recover. The good news is that once you do file at 70, you can absolutely continue working without any penalty. I've been collecting for 3 years now while still running my small business, and the SSA automatically recalculates my benefit each year if my current earnings are higher than one of my previous 35 years. It's actually pretty seamless. One thing to consider for tax planning - you might want to talk to a CPA about quarterly estimated payments once you start receiving both SS and business income. The tax withholding can get tricky when you have multiple income sources, but it's definitely manageable. Don't let tax concerns keep you from claiming what you've earned!
Thanks for sharing your experience! As someone new to this community, it's really reassuring to hear from people who've actually navigated this situation. The quarterly estimated payments tip is especially helpful - I hadn't thought about how having both SS and business income would complicate the tax withholding. Did you find it difficult to estimate the right amount, or does your CPA handle most of that calculation for you?
My CPA handles most of the heavy lifting on the calculations, but I've learned to track my quarterly business income pretty closely so we can adjust as needed. The first year was definitely the trickiest because we had to estimate what my SS benefit would be plus project my business income. Now that I have a few years of data, it's much more predictable. I'd definitely recommend getting professional help at least for the first year - the interaction between SS taxation thresholds and self-employment income can get complex quickly. But once you have a system in place, it becomes routine.
Hi there! This is a great question and a common situation many families face. Yes, your son can potentially receive both DAC benefits and partial SSI to make up the difference - this is called "concurrent benefits." Here's how it typically works: SSA will pay the higher of the two benefits first (in your case, the DAC), and then SSI can supplement up to the federal benefit rate if your son meets all SSI eligibility requirements. Since his DAC will be about $60 less than the full SSI amount, he should be eligible for that $60 difference in SSI. The good news is that since your son already receives Medicaid through a waiver, he likely meets the disability requirements for SSI. During your Monday appointment, make sure to ask specifically about: - Concurrent benefits eligibility - How the SSI supplement calculation works - Whether his current Medicaid waiver will transition smoothly - Any required documentation for the SSI application Having that waiver already in place should help streamline the process. Good luck with your appointment on Monday!
This is really helpful information, thank you @Millie Long! I'm also navigating SSA benefits for my adult child and had no idea about concurrent benefits. Just to clarify - when you mention "federal benefit rate," does that change annually? And would the DAC amount potentially increase over time with cost of living adjustments while the SSI portion might decrease accordingly? I'm trying to understand the long-term financial planning aspect of this situation.
KEEP FIGHTING!!! Don't let them get away with this! When this happened to me I had to call my congressperson's office to get help when SSA was dragging their feet. The congressional inquiry lit a fire under them and suddenly they were VERY responsive. Don't be afraid to escalate if you're not getting answers.
Congressional help is no joke. My mom had an overpayment issue that was going nowhere until she contacted her rep. fixed in 2 weeks after 6 months of nothing
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this - what a stressful situation! Based on what others have shared here, it definitely sounds like an administrative error during your conversion. One thing I'd suggest is also requesting a "benefit verification letter" from your mySocialSecurity account if you can access it - this sometimes shows more detail about how they calculated your current payment amount and might give you clues about what went wrong. Also, if you do end up needing to escalate to your congressperson, having documentation of multiple failed attempts to reach SSA by phone will strengthen your case. I really hope you get this resolved quickly - that's a huge difference in your monthly income and you shouldn't have to stress about this when the conversion was supposed to be seamless!
That's excellent advice about the benefit verification letter! I hadn't thought to look for that in my mySocialSecurity account. I'll check that first thing in the morning - maybe it will show some calculation details that aren't obvious elsewhere. And you're absolutely right about documenting all my failed call attempts. I've been so focused on just trying to get through that I haven't been keeping track, but I should start writing down every time I call, how long I wait, and what happens. Thanks for the practical suggestions and the encouragement - it really helps to know that others think this sounds like a fixable mistake rather than something permanent!
Everyone's talking about the website but my grandson helped me call the Social Security number (1-800-772-1213) and they mailed me a statement that showed all my options. Took about 2 weeks to get it. Shows what I'd get at 62, 67, and 70. I'm going with 67 since my health isn't great and I need the money. Don't believe what the financial advisors say about always waiting - sometimes taking it earlier makes sense!
Hi Miguel! I went through this exact same process about 6 months ago when I was planning my retirement. The my Social Security account on ssa.gov really is the gold standard - it shows your actual earnings history and gives you personalized estimates based on your real work record. For the identity verification issues others mentioned, I had better luck doing it during off-peak hours (like mid-afternoon on a weekday). The system seems less overloaded then. You'll need your Social Security card, a photo ID, and be able to answer questions about your credit history or past addresses. Since you mentioned working consistently since 22 with about 6 years off, you likely have close to 30+ years of earnings, which puts you in a decent position. The calculator will show you exactly how those gap years affected your benefit calculation. And regarding your brother-in-law's estimate of $2,500 - that's not unrealistic depending on your earnings history. The national average is lower, but if you had steady middle-class income for most of your career, you could definitely be in that range at full retirement age (67 for you). One tip: if you do decide to work a few more years, even part-time income can help replace some of those zero-earning years from the 90s in your calculation!
Lilly Curtis
One last tip - when you actually apply online, have these documents ready: - Your birth certificate (or passport) - Your most recent W-2 or tax return - Marriage certificate if you've been married - Divorce decree if applicable - Military discharge papers if you served Having everything prepared makes the online application process much smoother. The system also lets you save and come back if you need to gather more information.
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Ryder Everingham
•Perfect! I'll get these documents together well before I apply. I think I have everything except I'll need to dig up my military discharge papers. Really appreciate the specific document checklist.
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Zara Khan
Just wanted to add one more thing that caught me off guard - make sure to create your my Social Security account online BEFORE you apply if you don't already have one! It takes a few days to verify your identity and get full access. Having the account set up ahead of time lets you track your application status and access all your Social Security documents in one place. I wish I had known this earlier in my planning process. The account creation is at ssa.gov/myaccount and you'll need it anyway for managing your benefits once they start.
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Ashley Adams
•That's such a helpful tip! I hadn't even thought about setting up the online account first. I'll definitely do that as soon as possible so there's no delay when I'm ready to apply. Thanks for mentioning the few days it takes for identity verification - that could have been a real gotcha moment if I waited until the last minute.
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