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I definitely will! I'm planning to call tomorrow morning right when they open. Based on everyone's feedback, I'm pretty confident the first agent was mistaken, but I'll update with what I find out.
I've been through a similar situation and want to emphasize something important that others have mentioned - even though you received incorrect information from an SSA agent, you're still responsible for any overpayments. However, don't let this discourage you from appealing if you do exceed the limit based on their advice. When you call back, ask to speak with a supervisor and document EVERYTHING - get the agent's name, ID number, time of call, and ask them to note your file that you're calling to clarify conflicting information you received. If possible, ask them to send you written confirmation of the correct earnings limits. Also, since you're doing 1099 work now, consider spreading your income strategically. You could potentially defer some payments until 2026 when the higher limit applies (January-March), or structure your contracts to minimize 2025 earnings. Just make sure any deferral strategies don't create tax complications. The earnings limit rules are confusing enough without getting wrong information from SSA agents. Stay strong and keep advocating for yourself!
Great to see this got resolved! Just want to emphasize one more important point for anyone else reading this thread: if you're planning large withdrawals from retirement accounts or annuities, consider spreading them across multiple years if possible. While they won't affect your Social Security benefit amount, bunching large withdrawals into one year can push you into higher tax brackets and increase the taxation of your SS benefits significantly. A tax professional can help you strategize the timing to minimize the overall tax impact.
That's excellent advice about spreading out withdrawals! I hadn't thought about the tax bracket implications. Since I'm planning to withdraw $15,000 this year and potentially more in future years, it sounds like I should definitely consult with a tax professional to see if there's a better strategy. Better to plan ahead than get hit with a big tax surprise later. Thanks for adding that perspective!
As someone who works in retirement planning, I want to add one more clarification that might help others: the Social Security Administration has a very specific definition of "earnings" that only includes wages from employment (W-2 income) and net earnings from self-employment. This is clearly outlined in their Publication 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits." What does NOT count as earnings for the Social Security earnings test: - Annuity payments - Pension benefits - IRA/401(k) withdrawals - Investment income (interest, dividends, capital gains) - Rental income - Social Security benefits themselves The confusion often comes from the fact that these same income sources DO count for determining if your Social Security benefits are taxable - but that's handled by the IRS, not SSA, and it's a completely separate calculation. Owen, you're absolutely safe withdrawing from your annuity without affecting your monthly benefit amount. Just keep good records for tax purposes!
I just went through this process myself in January when I turned 67! I applied exactly 3 months before my FRA and received my first payment right on time. The key thing to remember is that SSA processes applications much faster when you apply online versus going to an office or calling. I'd definitely recommend the 3-month timeframe - it gives them enough processing time without your application sitting in the system too long. One tip: make sure to create your my Social Security account first if you don't already have one, as you'll need it to apply online and track your application status. The whole process took me about 45 minutes to complete online, and I got confirmation immediately with a receipt number. Don't overthink it - June would be perfect timing for your September FRA!
Thanks William! Your recent experience is really helpful to hear about. I'm definitely feeling more confident about the June timeline now. Quick question - when you say you got confirmation immediately with a receipt number, did you also get an estimated timeline for when your application would be fully processed? I'm wondering if there's a way to know roughly when to expect the final approval before my first payment is due. Also, did you have to do anything else after submitting the online application, or was it pretty much hands-off until you started receiving benefits?
@William Schwarz That s'really encouraging to hear about your recent experience! I m'feeling much better about the timeline now. Did you receive any updates between submitting your application and getting your first payment, or was it pretty quiet until the benefits started? I m'the type who likes to know what to expect, so I m'wondering if there are any milestones along the way where SSA lets you know everything is progressing normally. Also, since you mentioned creating the my Social Security account first - is there anything specific I should review or update in there before applying?
As someone who works in benefits administration, I can confirm that the 3-4 month window is absolutely correct. I see these applications daily, and the online system is definitely your best bet - it's much faster than phone or in-person applications. One thing I'd add is that you should double-check that your Direct Deposit information is set up correctly in your my Social Security account before applying, as this can prevent delays in receiving your payments. Also, make sure your legal name exactly matches what's on file with SSA - any discrepancies can slow things down. Since you're planning to stop working in August, that timing works perfectly with a June application for September benefits. The system is actually running pretty efficiently right now despite what some people are saying about delays.
Thanks for the professional insight! I really appreciate hearing from someone who sees these applications regularly. The direct deposit tip is especially helpful - I hadn't thought about making sure that's set up properly beforehand. Quick question: when you mention that the legal name needs to match exactly, does that include things like middle initials or nicknames? I've always gone by a shortened version of my first name, but my Social Security card has my full legal name. Should I use my full legal name on the application even though I typically use the shorter version for everything else?
hey did ur husband ever work in the US at all? my uncle worked in both canada and US and my aunt got benefits from both places when he died!
Rachel, I'm so sorry for your loss. I went through a similar situation when my Irish husband passed away. Since your husband never worked in the US, you'll need to focus on the UK system for any benefits based on his work record. The UK does have "Bereavement Support Payment" which is different from their State Pension and has different age requirements - it's available to widows/widowers under State Pension age. You should definitely call that UK International Pension Centre number that Seraphina posted (+44 191 218 7777) and specifically ask about bereavement benefits, not just pension benefits. They have a whole separate system for widows that I wish someone had told me about earlier! Also, even with only 8 years of US work credits, you might still have some options through the totalization agreement if your husband had any UK National Insurance contributions. Don't give up - these cases are complex but there are often benefits available that aren't obvious at first.
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i always get confused about FRA. isn't it different for everyone?? mine is 67 according to my SS statement i got
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Peyton Clarke
•Yes, Full Retirement Age varies based on your birth year: - Born 1943-1954: FRA is 66 - Born 1955: FRA is 66 and 2 months - Born 1956: FRA is 66 and 4 months - Born 1957: FRA is 66 and 6 months - Born 1958: FRA is 66 and 8 months - Born 1959: FRA is 66 and 10 months - Born 1960 or later: FRA is 67 So if your statement says 67, you were born in 1960 or later.
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Mia Alvarez
Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - make sure you keep good records of your monthly earnings during those 10 months before your FRA! SSA sometimes asks for documentation if your reported earnings seem inconsistent with what employers report. I learned this the hard way when I had irregular consulting income. Also, if you're doing 1099 contract work, remember that self-employment income is counted when it's earned, not when you get paid. So if you complete a project in month 8 but don't invoice until month 11 (after FRA), it still counts against your pre-FRA limit. Keep track of when work is actually performed vs. when payment is received. The $59,520 limit for 2025 is really generous compared to previous years, so you should be in good shape with that consulting work!
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•This is excellent advice about record-keeping! I'm just starting to navigate this whole system myself and hadn't thought about the documentation aspect. Quick question - when you say "self-employment income is counted when earned," does that apply even if I haven't received payment yet? Like if I complete a consulting project in month 9 but the client doesn't pay me until month 12 (after my FRA), that would still count toward the pre-FRA earnings limit for month 9?
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