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Will my SSDI hearing be in-person or phone now that SSA is stopping remote work?

I filed for SSDI last June and just received notice about my upcoming hearing with an ALJ in May. My disability attorney initially said I could do a telephone hearing (which would be so much easier with my mobility issues). But yesterday she called saying something about SSA ending remote work policies, and that I might need to appear in person after all. Has anyone had a recent disability hearing? Are they really forcing everyone to do in-person hearings now? This would be really difficult for me given my condition, and the hearing office is almost 90 minutes away. Any info about what's actually happening with SSA's policies would be super helpful!

Just wanted to follow up - did you get this resolved? What did your attorney say?

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Yes! I got my doctor to write a detailed letter explaining why travel would worsen my condition, and my attorney submitted a formal accommodation request. I just heard back yesterday that my telephone hearing has been approved. Such a relief! Thanks everyone for the guidance.

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That's fantastic news! So glad to hear your accommodation was approved. Your experience really reinforces what others have said here - having proper medical documentation makes all the difference. This thread will be really helpful for other people facing the same situation. Best of luck with your hearing in May!

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Will Social Security benefit calculations use the 4.43% AWI from 2023 for all wage indexing?

I was going through some Social Security planning materials and noticed the 2023 Average Wage Index (AWI) was published at 4.43%. I'm trying to understand how this impacts my future benefits since I'm planning to retire in about 2 years. Does this mean that all my past earnings will be indexed based on that 4.43% for my benefit calculation? I've worked for almost 33 years and I'm trying to get a better estimate of what my monthly benefit will actually be. The SSA calculator is confusing me and I'm not sure if I'm entering the indexing factor correctly. Anyone know exactly how this AWI percentage factors into the benefit formula?

To answer your follow-up question - yes, they will count years with zero earnings if you don't have 35 years of work. If you have more than 35 years of earnings, they'll use your highest 35 years and ignore the lowest years. With 33 years of work history, if you work 2 more years, you'll have exactly 35 years. But if you don't, they'll include 2 zero-earning years in your calculation, which will bring down your average. And yes, if you're turning 62 in 2027, the 2025 AWI will be your indexing base year. The SSA's calculations always use the AWI from the year you turn 60.

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Perfect explanation - thank you! Sounds like I should definitely plan to work those 2 more years to avoid having zeros in my calculation. I really appreciate everyone's help in understanding this.

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The WHOLE SYSTEM is designed to be confusing on purpose!!! They don't want us to understand how our benefits are calculated because then we might realize we're not getting what we deserve after paying in our whole lives!!!!

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It's complex but not a conspiracy. The indexing system actually helps people by adjusting past earnings to reflect wage growth. Without indexing, your earnings from 30 years ago would seem tiny compared to today's wages.

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Social Security Fairness Act back payments vs. applying for spousal benefits now - what's the right move?

My wife (70) and I (75) are trying to figure out the right timing with all these Social Security changes. I'm a retired principal who worked 31 years in public schools but also earned some Social Security credits from private sector jobs during summers and before teaching. My SS benefits were reduced by about 65% due to WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision). With the new Social Security Fairness Act, I understand I'll be eligible for an increased amount and possibly back payments. My monthly SS benefit is currently only $467. Meanwhile, my wife worked entirely in the private sector and receives $2,350/month in SS benefits. We have a phone appointment scheduled with SSA in March to apply for spousal benefits for me. My question: Should I go ahead with the spousal benefit application now, or will that complicate any adjustments/back payments coming from the Fairness Act changes? I don't want to mess up the WEP relief that's coming by applying for spousal benefits at the wrong time. Has anyone dealt with this specific timing issue?

Just wanted to add - when we did our spousal benefit application, they told us my husband would still receive his original SS benefit plus a supplemental amount to bring the total up to 50% of mine (minus his WEP reduction). Then later when the WEP reduction changes, his base benefit will increase which might reduce the supplemental spousal portion, but the total will stay the same or increase. It's confusing but worked out fine for us.

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As someone who recently went through a similar situation with my retired teacher spouse, I can confirm what others have said - the spousal benefit application and WEP adjustments are handled separately by SSA's systems. We were initially hesitant too, but our local SSA office assured us that applying for spousal benefits wouldn't interfere with the upcoming Fairness Act changes. One thing I'd add is to make sure you have a backup copy of your marriage certificate before mailing it to them. While they do mail it back, it can take several weeks and you might need it for other purposes. Also, during your March appointment, ask them to estimate what your spousal benefit amount would be - this will help you understand the potential impact when your WEP reduction is eliminated later. The peace of mind from getting the higher monthly payment now while waiting for the WEP relief is worth it, especially since you're not risking anything by applying.

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Can I stop my SS retirement application after previous withdrawal? LTD benefits still active

I'm in a complicated situation with my Social Security and hoping someone has faced something similar. I became disabled in May 2023 and applied for private Long-Term Disability (LTD). While waiting for approval, I started taking my SS retirement benefits early (before FRA). After months of fighting, my LTD was finally approved in September 2024 with help from a lawyer. Following the approval, I withdrew my SS retirement application and repaid all benefits I'd received (about $25,700). Now here's where things get messy. In October, my lawyer told me my LTD would expire in December 2024, so I applied for early SS retirement again. Two days later, I realized my LTD might actually continue until October 2025, so I immediately called SSA to cancel my application. The first rep told me to "wait until December since the application wasn't active yet" and call back. I called several times and finally someone told me I CANNOT cancel because I had previously withdrawn an application! This makes no sense to me because I hadn't received any payments from this new application. In January 2025, I received my LTD check as normal, but I'm terrified that SS benefits will start cutting into my higher LTD payments. Does anyone know if I can successfully appeal to cancel my retirement application? Has anyone gone through the appeal process for something like this? Any advice would be so appreciated!

Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I called SSA again today and specifically asked for a Technical Expert as suggested. I explained the difference between withdrawal and non-claim (which the first rep didn't seem to understand). After being transferred, the TE confirmed that since I hadn't received any payments yet, I could indeed file for a non-claim! I'll be sending a written statement to make it official. Such a relief. I plan to maximize my LTD until October and then reassess my options. This forum has been incredibly helpful - I was getting nowhere with the standard SSA phone line. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge!

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Great news! Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit and get some kind of confirmation in writing that your application was cancelled as a non-claim. This will protect you if there's any confusion later.

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That's fantastic news! I'm so glad you were able to get this resolved. Your experience really highlights how important it is to know the right terminology when dealing with SSA - the difference between "withdrawal" and "non-claim" seems to be something many reps don't fully understand. Your story will definitely help others who might find themselves in similar situations. It's a good reminder that persistence pays off, and sometimes you just need to find the right person who knows the system. Best of luck with your LTD benefits through October!

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Social Security survivor benefits starting date after husband's mid-month passing - will payments begin in October?

I lost my husband on September 17th and have my survivor benefits phone appointment with SSA tomorrow. I understand that at 61, I'll receive about 76.32% of his benefit amount permanently. What I'm confused about is WHEN the payments will actually start since he passed away in the middle of the month. Will my survivor benefits begin in October? His SS payment typically hit our account on the 3rd Wednesday of each month. I want to make sure I get all the benefits I'm entitled to from the date of his passing, but I'm not sure how SSA handles partial months. Does anyone know if they'll pay me for the portion of September after he died? I'm trying to get my finances in order and need to know when I can expect that first payment to arrive.

I'm so sorry for your loss, Sadie. I'm glad your appointment went well and you got the clarity you needed! Your experience really highlights how confusing the timing can be - I think the key takeaway for others reading this is that if the deceased spouse already received their payment for the month they died, survivor benefits typically start the following month. It's also great that you mentioned the $255 death benefit - that's something that often gets overlooked but every bit helps during such a difficult time. Thanks for sharing your update, it will definitely help others in similar situations know what to expect.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Sadie. What a difficult time to have to navigate all these bureaucratic details. I went through something similar when my father passed, and the Social Security timing rules can be so confusing. It sounds like you got great clarity from your appointment - the key point being that since your husband already received his September payment before passing, your survivor benefits start with October (paid in November). I'm glad you asked about the $255 death benefit too. One small tip that helped me: if you haven't already, consider setting up a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov. Once your benefits start, you can track your payments, get benefit statements, and handle some routine business online without having to call. The phone lines can be brutal when you need to make changes later. Wishing you strength as you work through all of this.

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