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This is such valuable information from everyone! I'm also approaching my FRA situation and wanted to add one more consideration that might help others in similar situations. If you're like me and have been putting off claiming benefits specifically because of earnings test concerns, don't forget that delaying benefits past your FRA can actually increase your monthly payment through Delayed Retirement Credits (DRCs). You earn about 8% more per year for each year you delay up until age 70. So for those of you who are financially able to keep working without needing the Social Security income right away, it might be worth running the numbers to see if delaying a few more months or even years could result in significantly higher lifetime benefits. Of course, this depends on your individual situation - health, financial needs, life expectancy expectations, etc. But it's another factor to consider alongside all the great earnings test information shared here. The SSA website has a calculator that can help you compare different claiming scenarios, though as others have mentioned, actually getting through to speak with someone can be challenging!
Excellent point about Delayed Retirement Credits! That's something I hadn't fully considered. At 8% per year, that's a pretty significant boost - much better than what you'd get from most investments these days. For someone like me who's still earning good money and doesn't immediately need the Social Security income, it might make sense to keep working and delay claiming even past FRA. I'll definitely check out that calculator you mentioned. It's kind of nice to think that once I hit FRA in August, I won't have to worry about the earnings test anymore, but I could still choose to delay benefits for an even bigger monthly payment later. Takes some of the pressure off having to make the claiming decision right at FRA. Thanks for adding that perspective - it's helpful to think beyond just "when can I claim without penalties" to "when should I claim for maximum benefit.
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm also dealing with the FRA timing issue - mine is in October 2025 and I've been stressing about whether to reduce my work hours beforehand. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: I called my local SSA office directly instead of the national 800 number and had much better luck getting through. The local office staff seemed more knowledgeable about these timing scenarios too. They confirmed what everyone here is saying - once you hit FRA, the earnings test is completely done. No more monthly limits, no more worrying about overpayments. But they also emphasized checking your exact FRA date like Ana mentioned - mine is actually October 14th, not my birthday on October 15th. For anyone still worried about the calculations, the SSA representative told me they have internal systems that automatically handle the month-by-month calculations for your FRA year, so you don't need to do complex math. They'll send you a clear explanation if any adjustments are needed. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to decode the official SSA publications!
I'm in a similar situation planning ahead - my daughter wants to buy our family home next year when I turn 65. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! A few additional thoughts from my research: 1. Make sure to keep detailed records of the entire transaction - purchase agreement, closing documents, proof of mortgage payoff, etc. Even though regular SS retirement benefits aren't affected by assets, having everything documented gives peace of mind. 2. Consider timing if you're close to any income thresholds. Since IRMAA looks at tax returns from 2 years prior, the timing of when you realize any capital gains could matter for future Medicare premiums. 3. If your son is planning major renovations for the mother-in-law suite, you might want to clarify upfront how much of the sale proceeds (if any) you'll contribute to those improvements, as this could affect your tax situation. 4. One thing I learned from my research - if you do end up paying your son some monthly amount for utilities/maintenance, make sure it's documented properly. The IRS likes clear paper trails for family financial arrangements. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been a goldmine of practical information!
This is such valuable advice, especially about the documentation and timing aspects! I hadn't thought about how the timing of capital gains realization could affect future Medicare premiums. Your point about keeping detailed records resonates with me - even though my regular SS benefits won't be affected, having everything properly documented will definitely help me sleep better at night. The suggestion about clarifying upfront how much I might contribute to renovations is really smart too. I was thinking about helping with some of the mother-in-law suite improvements, so I'll make sure we document that properly. Thanks for sharing your research - it's so helpful to hear from someone planning a similar transition!
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and helpful information! I'm not in this exact situation yet, but my aging parents have been talking about potentially selling their home and moving in with one of us kids in the next few years. Reading through this thread has been incredibly educational - I had no idea about the distinction between regular Social Security retirement benefits and SSI, or about the IRMAA Medicare premium adjustments. The point about keeping detailed documentation and the capital gains exclusion for primary residences is especially valuable. One question that comes to mind after reading all these responses: For those who have gone through similar family arrangements, how did you handle the emotional/family dynamics aspect? Obviously the financial and legal considerations are crucial, but I imagine there might be some adjustment challenges when parents move in with adult children, even with separate living spaces. Any advice on making that transition smoother for everyone involved? Thanks again to @Paolo Esposito for asking such a relevant question, and to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise!
Welcome to the community @Sofia Rodriguez! You've asked such an important question about the emotional/family dynamics aspect. As someone who's been lurking here for a while but just starting to participate, I've seen a few posts touch on this. From what I've observed in other threads, setting clear boundaries and expectations upfront seems crucial - things like privacy, household responsibilities, financial contributions, and decision-making roles. Some families have found success with a "trial period" arrangement before making permanent changes. I think having separate entrances (like the mother-in-law suite @Paolo Esposito mentioned can) really help maintain independence and dignity for everyone. Also, regular family meetings to address any issues before they become bigger problems. The financial planning you re'all discussing is definitely the foundation, but you re'absolutely right that the relationship dynamics can make or break these arrangements. I d'love to hear from others who have navigated this successfully!
The SSA website is TERRIBLE abt explaining this stuff clearly!! No wonder ppl get confused when it talks abt "earnings" limits but doesnt clearly say it means WORK income not pensions! Glad u asked and got good answers here!
As a new member here, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who helped clarify this! I was in a similar situation last year - also a teacher with TRS pension and was completely confused about survivor benefits after my spouse passed. The distinction between earned income (from working) and pension income for the earnings test is SO important and not explained well anywhere official. I ended up getting my full survivor benefits on top of my pension once GPO was repealed. For anyone else in this situation - definitely explore those claiming strategies mentioned above about timing different benefits. It can make a huge difference in your total lifetime benefits!
One thing to keep in mind with the withdrawal option - make sure you have the cash flow to handle both paying back the 4 months of benefits AND potentially waiting several more months for your contract payments to come in. Contract work can sometimes have delayed payment schedules, and you don't want to be caught short on funds. Also, since you mentioned this is lucrative work, consider setting aside money for self-employment taxes (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) if you'll be working as an independent contractor rather than an employee. The tax hit on a $60K contract can be pretty substantial when combined with repaying your SS benefits.
This is such valuable advice about cash flow planning! I hadn't fully considered the timing gap between repaying SS benefits and receiving contract payments. You're absolutely right about the self-employment tax burden too - that 15.3% on top of regular income tax can be a shock if you're not prepared for it. I'm going to create a detailed cash flow projection before I proceed with the withdrawal to make sure I can handle all these financial obligations without putting myself in a bind. Better to be over-prepared than caught short!
Just a heads up - when you file Form SSA-521 for withdrawal, SSA will send you a letter showing the exact amount you need to repay, including any interest. You typically have 60 days to make the repayment, but they may grant extensions if needed. The process usually takes 4-6 weeks from when they receive your form to when they send the repayment letter. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of everything - the withdrawal form, repayment documentation, and any correspondence with SSA. You'll need these for your taxes and when you eventually reapply for benefits. Some people forget that the repayment amount might include spousal or survivor benefits if applicable, so double-check all the details before proceeding.
This is incredibly helpful information about the timeline and documentation! The 4-6 week processing time is good to know for planning purposes. I'm definitely going to start organizing a dedicated folder for all SSA-related documents right away. One question - you mentioned the repayment amount might include interest. Do you know how they calculate that interest, or is it typically a small amount for someone who's only been collecting for 4 months? I want to make sure I budget accurately for the total repayment amount.
Ethan Moore
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you're already on SSDI, you should also think about Medicare timing. If you've been on SSDI for 24 months, you're automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A and B. When you switch to any other type of Social Security benefit (like ex-spouse benefits), your Medicare coverage continues without interruption. This is important to keep in mind as you navigate these benefit decisions, especially if you have ongoing medical needs. The transition between benefit types won't affect your healthcare coverage, which is one less thing to worry about!
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Javier Morales
•That's a really good point about Medicare! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. I've been on SSDI for 3 years now so I do have Medicare Parts A and B. It's reassuring to know that won't be affected if I switch to ex-spouse benefits. With all the complexity around Social Security rules, it's nice to know at least one thing stays simple! Thanks for mentioning this - it's definitely one less worry.
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Andre Lefebvre
I work as a benefits counselor and see situations like yours frequently. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here is that you should also ask SSA about "protective filing" when you call. If there's any chance your ex-spouse benefit would be higher than your SSDI, you can establish an application date while they calculate the exact amounts. This protects you from losing any retroactive benefits if there are processing delays. Also, since you mentioned your ex-husband has always earned more than you, there's a good chance his PIA is high enough that 50% would exceed your current $1,450 SSDI. High earners often have PIAs in the $3,000-4,000 range, which would make your potential ex-spouse benefit $1,500-2,000. Don't forget that if you do switch to ex-spouse benefits, you'll still be protected by cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) just like with SSDI. The benefit type changes but the annual increases continue.
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