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Well, I thought I was ready to be done with the workforce, but turns out retirement and I don't get along! I left my federal government position about 8 months ago with my pension, and I've already filed my Social Security application to begin when I turn 62 next month (April 2025). But honestly, I'm climbing the walls with boredom and missing the structure (and extra income) of working. I haven't received any SS payments yet since my benefits haven't started. Can I just cancel my application at this point? I've heard about the 'one withdrawal in a lifetime' rule, but since I haven't actually received any payments, would this even count as using that option? Is there paperwork I need to complete? I'm planning to return to work full-time in the healthcare field with benefits, so I'd rather wait until my FRA to claim Social Security anyway. Does anyone have experience with withdrawing an application before benefits start? Is it a complicated process? Any drawbacks I should know about?
I'm confused about the spousal benefit process with Social Security. Just received my retirement approval letter yesterday and there's no mention at all about ex-spouse benefits even though I think I qualify. On my application, I definitely filled out the marriage/divorce section with my ex-husband's name and SS number (we were married 12+ years). I assumed SSA would automatically calculate if I'm eligible for the higher amount based on his record, but now I'm wondering if I have to specifically request this? They never asked for marriage/divorce documents either, which makes me wonder if maybe my own benefit is already higher than half of his? But that seems unlikely since he earned significantly more than me during our working years. He started collecting at 62 about three years ago. Do I need to call SSA to specifically request the spousal calculation? Or will they automatically pay me whichever is higher? My benefit starts next month and I don't want to miss out on potentially higher payments!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I'm feeling much better now understanding that they likely did check both calculations already. I'll still call to verify (and try that Claimyr service someone mentioned since the wait times sound awful), but it makes sense that my own benefit might be higher even though my ex-husband earned more during his career. I've worked consistently for almost 40 years, so maybe that's why my own benefit ended up higher. The formula explanations really helped me understand how it all works. I'll update once I talk to SSA just in case it helps someone else with the same question!
Great question! I went through something very similar about 6 months ago. The SSA automatically compares your own benefit to any spousal benefits you might be eligible for when you provide that information on your application. Since your approval letter only mentions your own benefit, it's almost certainly because that amount is higher than what you'd get from your ex-husband's record. The key thing to remember is that divorced spouse benefits are capped at 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (what he would get at full retirement age), not what he actually receives since he claimed early at 62. Also, the Social Security benefit formula is progressive - it replaces a higher percentage of lower earnings, which often means people with steady work histories get better benefits than expected. You can definitely call to double-check, but based on what you've described (they have his info, no request for documents, consistent work history), your own benefit is likely the higher amount. Congrats on your approval!
I started collecting Social Security retirement benefits last March based solely on my own work record. During my application, I provided information about my ex-husband (we were married for 12 years, divorced in 2008, and I never remarried). I included his name, SSN, and our divorce date in my application. When SSA calculated my benefit amount, they never mentioned anything about spousal benefits or getting a 'top-up' from his record. I figured this was because I was affected by the Government Pension Offset (GPO) and Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) rules due to my non-covered pension, making any spousal benefit less than what I'd get on my own record. Now that Congress has repealed WEP/GPO (effective 2025), I'm wondering if SSA will automatically recalculate my benefit to include any ex-spousal amount I might be entitled to? Here's my concern - they never asked me to submit my marriage certificate or divorce decree during my application. Is it worth calling them now to ensure they consider the ex-spouse benefit in their recalculation? Would I need to speak with some kind of account specialist? My past experiences calling SSA haven't been very productive, and the website is practically useless for specific situations like this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
The whole system is DELIBERATELY CONFUSING!!! They never tell you what documents you actually need until it's too late. Then they blame YOU for not providing something they never asked for in the first place! I've been fighting with them for 8 months about my WEP reduction. Every person tells you something different. It's all designed to make you give up and take less money than you deserve.
While the system can definitely be frustrating, it's more about understaffing and outdated technology than deliberate confusion. The WEP/GPO rules are genuinely complex - most frontline employees don't fully understand all the technical details themselves. That's why it's important to specifically ask for a Technical Expert or Claims Specialist who has advanced training on these issues. General claims reps usually handle more straightforward cases and might not recognize all the nuances of the WEP/GPO rules and how they intersect with divorced spouse benefits.
I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I was also affected by WEP due to my teacher's pension and never pursued spousal benefits because I assumed they'd be reduced to nothing. Now with the repeal coming, I'm realizing I might have left money on the table. One thing I'm curious about - does anyone know if there's a statute of limitations on how far back they'll pay retroactive benefits once you provide the proper documentation? I've been collecting for 18 months already and I'm wondering if I'll only get the difference going forward, or if they'll recalculate back to my original start date. The SSA website mentions something about a 6-month retroactive limit for some benefit types, but I can't tell if that applies to this situation.
I'm at my wit's end trying to schedule an appointment with Social Security! I work full-time Monday through Friday, 8-5, and simply CAN'T stay on hold for 2+ hours during work hours. My supervisor is already giving me the side-eye whenever I step away for personal calls. I need to discuss my retirement options since I'm turning 62 next March, but also want to understand how spousal benefits might work since my husband is already receiving SSDI. Is there ANY way to schedule an in-person appointment for a SATURDAY? Or maybe early evening hours? The online system keeps directing me to call the 800 number, which brings me back to square one. Has anyone successfully scheduled an after-hours appointment? Or found another solution for us working folks?
My sister works full time too and she said her office had an online form specifically for requesting a callback. Have you checked your local office's website? Some have different options than others.
I feel your pain! I'm in a similar situation - work 8-5 and my boss isn't thrilled about long personal calls either. What finally worked for me was using the SSA's "appointment request" feature on their website late at night (around 11pm when the site is less busy). You have to create a my Social Security account first, but then you can submit a request for a callback to schedule an appointment. It took about 5 business days, but they called me back and we scheduled everything over the phone during my lunch break. Way better than sitting on hold for hours! Also, since you mentioned retirement at 62 with spousal benefits involved, definitely ask about "restricted application" strategies when you do get through - there might be some timing advantages you can take advantage of.
I turned 67 last month and started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits ($1,580/month). My husband is 65 and already started his retirement benefits early at 62 ($2,950/month). We've been married for over 25 years. I just realized his benefit amount is nearly double what I'm getting, and I'm wondering if I'm entitled to any additional spousal benefits based on his record since mine is so much lower? I'm at my Full Retirement Age now, but I'm confused about whether I can get any spousal benefits when we're both already collecting our own retirement. The SSA website is so complicated and I can't get through on the phone. Anyone know if I'm missing out on money I should be receiving?
I finally got through to SSA today! The agent told me my husband's PIA (what he would get at his FRA) is about $3,750, and half of that is $1,875. Since my benefit is $1,580, I qualify for an additional $295 per month in spousal benefits! They're processing it now and said I'll get retroactive payments to when I reached FRA. I'm so glad I asked about this - thank you everyone for your help!
That's great news! Congratulations on the successful outcome. This is exactly why it's so important to understand all your benefit options. Many people miss out on additional benefits simply because SSA doesn't automatically calculate and apply them. That's an extra $3,540 per year you'll be receiving!
Wow, this is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation - I'm 66 and my husband is 68, both collecting our own Social Security. I never even thought about spousal benefits since we're both already getting our own checks. Reading through all these responses makes me realize I should probably check into this too. Does anyone know if there's a time limit on how long after you start collecting your own benefits you can apply for additional spousal benefits? I've been on Social Security for about 8 months now.
Sean Doyle
Update: I called SSA this morning (was on hold for over an hour) but finally got through. The agent confirmed everything you all said - I need to submit Form SSA-521 before my April entitlement date, and yes, this does count as my one-lifetime withdrawal even though I haven't received payments yet. They're mailing me the form today, but the agent also mentioned I could download it from ssa.gov and submit it immediately. I'm going to do that and also mail a copy with delivery confirmation. Thanks everyone for your help! Can't wait to rejoin the working world (never thought I'd say that!).
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Glad you got through to SSA and have a clear path forward! Smart move downloading and submitting the form right away rather than waiting for the mail. Just a heads up - when you do eventually file for Social Security again (whether at FRA or 70), make sure to mention this previous withdrawal application to the SSA agent. Sometimes it helps them locate your complete file history more quickly. Best of luck with returning to healthcare administration - sounds like you'll be much happier back in the working world!
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