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I just wanted to update everyone. I finally got through to a supervisor at SSA who confirmed that YES, I can take ONLY survivor benefits at my FRA without taking my own retirement benefits. She explained I need to be very explicit when applying that I'm only applying for widow's benefits. Thank you all for your help and advice - it gave me the confidence to keep pushing for a clear answer!

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That's great news! Make sure to get the supervisor's name and direct extension if possible for when you actually file. Also request a written confirmation of this policy if they can provide it. When you do file, review all paperwork carefully before signing to ensure it only shows an application for survivor benefits. Glad you got the right information!

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I'm so sorry for your loss and glad you were able to get a clear answer from SSA! Your story really highlights how important it is to be persistent and ask for supervisors when needed. For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation - I went through this process myself 18 months ago and found it helpful to bring a printed copy of SSA's Program Operations Manual (POMS) section RS 00615.001 which specifically covers survivor benefit applications. Having the official policy in writing seemed to help clarify things with the representative. Also, when you do apply, consider doing it in person at your local office rather than online or by phone - you can review everything before signing and make sure they understand exactly what you're requesting. Best of luck with your application!

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm new to this community but going through something similar - my father passed recently and I'm trying to navigate survivor benefits for my mother. The POMS reference is particularly valuable since it gives you official documentation to reference. Quick question for anyone who's been through this - when you mention bringing printed copies of the policy, did you find certain sections more useful than others? Also, is there a specific way to phrase your request that helps ensure the rep understands you only want one type of benefit? Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I'm sorry for your loss, Steven. As someone new to this community, I wanted to share what I learned when helping my aunt navigate similar decisions. The SSA website has a benefit calculator tool that might help you estimate your future survivor benefits with projected COLAs included. Also, if you haven't already, consider scheduling an appointment at your local SSA office about 6 months before you plan to apply - they can walk you through the entire process and help you understand all your options. Sometimes having that face-to-face conversation can clarify things that seem confusing online. The folks here have given you excellent advice about keeping documentation and double-checking calculations. Wishing you the best as you plan ahead.

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Thank you for mentioning the SSA benefit calculator - I didn't know that existed! That sounds like it could be really helpful for planning purposes. I'll definitely look into scheduling that appointment closer to when I turn 63. Having someone walk through all the options in person does sound much better than trying to figure everything out from their website. I really appreciate everyone's advice in this thread - this community has been so helpful during a difficult time.

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I'm new to this community but wanted to offer my condolences on your loss. My father-in-law went through something similar when my mother-in-law passed away in 2021. One thing that really helped him was creating a simple spreadsheet to track the annual COLA increases and estimate his future benefits. He used the historical COLA percentages (which you can find on the SSA website) to project different scenarios. It gave him peace of mind to see the numbers on paper and helped him make better financial decisions while waiting to claim. The folks here have given you excellent advice about documentation and double-checking calculations. Don't hesitate to reach out to this community if you have more questions as you get closer to your claiming date - everyone here seems very knowledgeable and supportive.

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One thing I'd add based on my experience helping my mom with this same situation - consider scheduling your appointment for early in the morning if possible. The SSA representatives tend to be less rushed and more thorough earlier in the day. Also, if your local office offers appointments (not all do), definitely take that over walking in. And here's something nobody mentioned yet - make sure you understand what happens at age 70 when you switch to your own retirement benefit. You'll need to contact SSA again to make that switch, and there can be a gap in payments if you don't time it right. My mom's advisor recommended filing for her retirement benefit about 2-3 months before her 70th birthday to ensure seamless transition. Just something to keep in mind for your future planning! Also seconding what others said about bringing a written statement - I helped my mom type up a one-paragraph summary that she handed to the rep, and they really appreciated having it spelled out so clearly.

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This is such valuable information about the transition at 70! I hadn't even thought about the potential gap in payments when switching from survivor benefits to my own retirement benefit. That's definitely something I need to plan for and discuss with SSA when I apply. The timing of filing 2-3 months before my 70th birthday makes perfect sense. And I love the tip about morning appointments - I've noticed that with other government offices too, people are generally more helpful when they're not stressed from a long day. I'm definitely going to request an early appointment when the time comes. Thank you for thinking ahead to that transition piece - it's exactly this kind of real-world experience that makes this community so helpful!

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I'm going through a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add that my financial advisor emphasized - make sure you get a written confirmation or summary letter after your appointment that clearly states you've applied for survivor benefits only and that your retirement benefit remains unaffected. My advisor also suggested asking the SSA rep to walk through the exact dollar amounts you'll receive as survivor benefits versus what your retirement benefit would be at 70, just so you can confirm the strategy still makes sense with the actual numbers. Sometimes the projected amounts can be different than what people initially calculated. Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where you're receiving survivor benefits and then get remarried before age 60? I know it affects eligibility, but I'm curious about the timing rules. Not planning to remarry anytime soon, but want to understand all the implications of this decision. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice you can't get from the SSA website!

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To summarize the correct information for you: 1. Taking spousal benefits early will NOT affect your survivor benefits 2. Your future survivor benefit will be based on your husband's benefit amount 3. Since he claimed at 62, his benefit (and consequently your future survivor benefit) is permanently reduced 4. You can claim spousal now and later switch to survivor benefits when applicable 5. To maximize your survivor benefits, you would need to wait until your FRA to claim them when the time comes Given that you're turning 64 next month, taking spousal benefits now means approximately a 13.3% reduction from what you'd get at your FRA. Only you can decide if getting payments now is worth this permanent reduction to your spousal benefits.

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Thank you for this clear summary! This helps me understand my options much better. I think I'm leaning toward claiming now since it won't affect my survivor benefits later. I appreciate everyone's help with this!

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Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you mentioned you have less than 40 work credits, make sure to also ask SSA about any potential benefits you might qualify for based on your own work history, even if it's minimal. Sometimes people are surprised to find they have more credits than they thought, or there might be other benefit options available. Also, keep all your documentation from when you do file for spousal benefits - it will make the transition to survivor benefits much smoother later on. The consensus here seems clear that your spousal decision won't hurt your survivor benefits, so that's one less thing to worry about!

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I work at a local SSA field office and see this situation fairly regularly. Here's what you need to know: 1. **Act fast** - You have 12 months from your entitlement date to withdraw, but don't wait 2. **Form SSA-521** - You can download it from ssa.gov or pick it up at any office 3. **Don't return money yet** - Wait for SSA's instructions on how they want repayment 4. **Visit in person if possible** - This ensures proper processing and you get a receipt The good news is that once your withdrawal is processed, your Medicare Part B enrollment will automatically terminate, and since you have employer coverage, you won't face any penalties when you eventually enroll. One important note: Make sure you understand that this is your ONE lifetime withdrawal opportunity. If you're not absolutely certain about your retirement timing, you might want to consider benefit suspension instead (available at Full Retirement Age), which preserves your withdrawal option for true emergencies. The process typically takes 4-6 weeks once all paperwork and repayment are complete.

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This is incredibly helpful information from someone who actually works there! I really appreciate the insider perspective. The 4-6 week timeline gives me a much better idea of what to expect. I think I'll definitely visit the office in person since this is so important to get right the first time. Thank you for clarifying about not returning the money until they tell me how - I was getting conflicting advice on that part.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago! The stress is real, but you're going to be fine. Here's what worked for me: I called the national number (1-800-772-1213) first thing Monday morning around 8:15 AM - got through in about 25 minutes. The key is calling right when they open. The agent walked me through everything and actually started the Form SSA-521 process over the phone, then mailed me the completed form to sign and return. For returning the money, they gave me specific instructions - DO NOT just send a check back on your own. They need to process it through their system properly or it can create more problems. They'll either send you a Treasury check to return or give you wire transfer instructions. One thing that really helped my peace of mind: the agent explained that as long as you're within that 12-month window and haven't spent the money, this is considered a routine transaction for them. They handle withdrawals regularly and have clear procedures. The whole process took about 5 weeks from start to finish for me. My advice: get that form submitted ASAP, but don't panic - you caught this early and you're taking the right steps!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, practical advice I was hoping for! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm going to try calling first thing Monday morning like you suggested - 8:15 AM seems like the magic time. It's such a relief to hear that they can actually start the process over the phone and then mail the form. I was worried about trying to navigate their website and potentially filling something out wrong. The part about not returning the money on my own is really important too - I definitely don't want to create more complications by doing it incorrectly. Five weeks feels manageable knowing there's a clear process. Really appreciate you taking the time to walk through exactly what worked!

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