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As someone who went through this exact situation with my spouse, I can confirm what others have said - definitely keep the SSDI going until FRA! We made the mistake of overthinking it initially and almost considered having my husband switch to early retirement at 62 (thankfully we didn't). One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: when you do get to the point of potentially claiming spousal benefits for your husband, make sure SSA calculates it correctly. The spousal benefit is based on 50% of YOUR Primary Insurance Amount (not your actual benefit if you delay past FRA). So if you wait until 70 to claim, your benefit will be higher due to delayed retirement credits, but his potential spousal benefit is still calculated from your PIA at FRA. Also, since you mentioned you're almost 60, you might want to start thinking about whether you can afford to delay your own benefits. The extra years of delayed credits can really add up, especially as the higher earner. But I know that's easier said than done depending on your work situation!
This is such valuable insight, especially about the spousal benefit calculation! I didn't realize it's based on the PIA at FRA rather than the actual delayed benefit amount. That's definitely something I need to factor into my planning. Regarding delaying my own benefits - you're right that it's easier said than done. I'm fortunate that I can probably continue working for a few more years, and the delayed retirement credits would really help maximize our household income given that I'm the higher earner. It sounds like the math really favors me waiting if I can manage it financially. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who actually navigated this situation successfully!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in benefits administration (though not specifically for SSA). The advice you've received here is really solid, especially about not switching from SSDI to early retirement at 62. I see people make that mistake fairly often and it's heartbreaking because it can't be undone. One additional consideration for your planning: since you're the higher earner and likely to have survivor benefits implications down the road, maximizing YOUR benefit through delayed retirement credits becomes even more important. If something were to happen to you first, your husband would potentially be eligible for survivor benefits based on your record (including any delayed retirement credits you earned). Conversely, if he passes first, your survivor benefit would be based on his SSDI/retirement amount, which won't grow beyond FRA. I'd also suggest documenting everything when you do speak with SSA representatives. Get names, dates, and reference numbers for any advice given. The rules around SSDI transitions and spousal benefits can be complex, and having a paper trail helps if you get conflicting information from different agents. You're being smart to research this thoroughly ahead of time rather than making rushed decisions at 62!
It depends on your aunt's age: - If she's at full retirement age or older: She can work ANY amount (full-time, part-time, whatever) with NO reduction in survivor benefits - If she's under full retirement age: There are earnings limits that apply. For 2025, if she's not reaching FRA this year, she can earn up to about $22,320 without reduction. If she's reaching FRA this year, she can earn up to about $58,000 in the months before reaching FRA. Benefits are reduced $1 for every $2 or $3 earned above these limits (depending on which limit applies). The rules are the same whether it's part-time or full-time work - only the total earnings matter.
Miguel, you've gotten some excellent advice here! Just want to reinforce what others have said - since you reached your FRA in February, you are absolutely in the clear to earn your full $8,000/month salary alongside your survivor benefits with zero penalties. I went through something very similar when I was caring for my father through his Social Security maze. The misinformation from SSA reps is unfortunately very common, especially on these earnings limit rules. I'd recommend documenting this conversation thread and maybe even calling back to SSA to get the correct information on your record. One additional tip: since you mentioned you're planning to retire fully in 4 months, now might be a good time to create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can track your benefits, get verification letters, and monitor any changes without having to call and wait on hold. Congratulations on navigating this successfully - it sounds like you have a solid plan for maximizing both income streams during your transition to retirement!
This is such great advice! I'm actually in a similar situation myself - trying to navigate Social Security while caring for my aging parents. The my Social Security online account has been a lifesaver for tracking everything without those endless phone waits. Miguel, it really sounds like you've got this figured out now thanks to everyone's help here. It's so frustrating that the SSA rep gave you incorrect information initially, but at least you found the right answers. The fact that you can earn unlimited income at FRA is one of the few "good news" stories in the Social Security system! Good luck with your last 4 months of work - what a nice way to transition into retirement with both your salary and survivor benefits flowing in!
I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is such a difficult time, and it's wonderful that you're helping your sister-in-law navigate this process. Just wanted to add a few practical tips from when I went through this with my own family: 1) When you call SSA, have your sister-in-law be the one on the phone since she's the surviving parent - they won't discuss details with other family members due to privacy rules, even with good intentions. 2) Consider calling your local SSA office directly rather than the national number. Sometimes local offices are easier to reach and can schedule in-person appointments if phone wait times are impossible. 3) If your niece has any disabilities or special circumstances, mention this during the call as there may be additional benefits available that continue beyond age 18. 4) Keep in mind that once the benefits start, they'll be deposited monthly and your sister-in-law will need to report them on taxes (though they're often not taxable depending on total household income). The benefits will make a real difference for your niece's future. Take care of yourselves during this difficult time.
This is really helpful advice, especially about having my sister-in-law make the call herself. I didn't think about the privacy restrictions. The tip about calling the local office is great too - I'll look up our local SSA office number. Thank you for taking the time to share these practical details during what I know is a overwhelming process.
I'm very sorry for your loss. Just wanted to share that my experience with SSA was actually much smoother than some others here have described. When my father passed away two years ago, I was able to get through to SSA on my second call (called around 10am on a Tuesday). The representative was compassionate and walked me through everything step by step. A few things that helped me prepare: - I called from a landline rather than cell phone (not sure if this matters but the connection was crystal clear) - Had all documents spread out in front of me before calling - Wrote down questions beforehand so I wouldn't forget anything during the emotional conversation One thing I didn't see mentioned above is that they can sometimes expedite the process in cases of financial hardship. If your sister-in-law is struggling with immediate expenses related to your brother-in-law's passing, it's worth mentioning this during the call. Also, the benefits will likely be retroactive to the month after his death, so even if there's a delay in processing, your niece won't lose out on those payments. Wishing your family strength during this difficult time.
Thank you for sharing your positive experience with SSA - it's encouraging to hear that sometimes the process does go smoothly! The tip about calling from a landline is interesting, and I'll definitely suggest my sister-in-law prepare all her questions in advance. It's reassuring to know about the retroactive payments too, since we're already a month out from his passing. I appreciate you mentioning the financial hardship option as well - we hadn't considered that but it could be helpful given all the unexpected expenses that come with losing someone so suddenly.
I want to thank everyone for their helpful responses! I feel much better knowing I can manage my annual earnings rather than worrying about each individual month. I'll definitely keep track of my total earnings to make sure I stay under the $22,680 limit for the year. I'm going to call SSA just to confirm this information for my specific situation, but at least now I have a much better understanding of how the earnings test works. This community has been so helpful!
That's a good plan to call SSA for confirmation. Just remember that when you call, you might need to politely ask for a supervisor if the first representative seems unsure about the annual vs. monthly earnings test. Unfortunately, not all SSA staff are equally knowledgeable about every rule. Good luck!
I've been dealing with survivor benefits for about 2 years now and went through a similar confusion with earnings limits. What really helped me was getting everything in writing from SSA. When I called, I asked the representative to send me a letter confirming the annual earnings test applies to my situation (since I'm past my first year of benefits). Having that documentation gave me peace of mind and also serves as proof if there's ever a discrepancy later. The annual limit approach is definitely correct for ongoing survivor benefits, but I totally understand the anxiety about potentially losing benefits - those payments are so important for making ends meet. One more tip: if you do end up earning close to the $22,680 limit later in the year, you can always reduce your hours in December to stay under. I did that last year just to be safe. Good luck with your part-time job - it sounds like a rewarding place to work!
That's really smart advice about getting documentation in writing! I never thought about asking for a letter confirming which earnings test applies to my situation. Given all the conflicting information people seem to get when they call SSA, having something official in writing would definitely help me sleep better at night. And you're right about the daycare job - I really do enjoy working with the kids and helping my grandson's teachers. It keeps me active and gives me a sense of purpose beyond just the extra income.
Peyton Clarke
I'm sorry for your loss, Sadie. Reading through this thread has been really educational - there's so much conflicting information out there about survivor benefits timing! It's great that you got direct clarification from SSA during your appointment. One thing I wanted to mention that I don't see covered here is that you might want to ask about potentially switching to your own retirement benefits later if they would be higher than your survivor benefits. Since you're 61 now, you could potentially file for your own reduced benefits at 62 and then switch strategies later. The SSA representative should be able to run some projections for you to see what makes the most sense long-term. Also, if you haven't already, consider reaching out to a local SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) counselor - they can help navigate Medicare decisions when you become eligible, especially since survivor benefits can affect those choices too.
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Beth Ford
•This is excellent advice about considering the switch to your own retirement benefits later! I hadn't thought about that strategy at all. At 61, I was so focused on just getting through the immediate survivor benefit process that I didn't consider the long-term planning aspect. The idea of filing for my own reduced benefits at 62 and then potentially switching sounds complicated but could be worth exploring. I'll definitely ask about those projections when I have my follow-up with SSA. And thank you for mentioning SHIP - I had no idea that program existed. With everything else going on, thinking ahead to Medicare decisions feels overwhelming, but having professional guidance available is really reassuring. This community has been such a lifeline for navigating all these decisions I never expected to have to make.
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Grace Thomas
I'm so sorry for your loss, Sadie. What a difficult time to have to navigate all these bureaucratic details. I went through something similar when my father passed, and the Social Security timing rules can be so confusing. It sounds like you got great clarity from your appointment - the key point being that since your husband already received his September payment before passing, your survivor benefits start with October (paid in November). I'm glad you asked about the $255 death benefit too. One small tip that helped me: if you haven't already, consider setting up a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov. Once your benefits start, you can track your payments, get benefit statements, and handle some routine business online without having to call. The phone lines can be brutal when you need to make changes later. Wishing you strength as you work through all of this.
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