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One more important detail - the earnings test only counts wages or self-employment income. It doesn't count investment income, pension payments, annuities, capital gains, or government benefits. So if any of your income comes from these sources, they won't count toward either the monthly or annual limits. And remember that the earnings reduction isn't a permanent loss. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, your benefit will be recalculated to credit back the months when benefits were withheld.

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That's good to know about the recalculation at FRA. I wasn't aware they'd adjust it later. All my income now is from consulting work though, so unfortunately it all counts toward the limits.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact decision last year. I was 64 and had a similar situation with irregular income from freelance work. I ended up starting benefits in March after earning about $20k in Jan/Feb, then stayed under the monthly limit the rest of the year. The key thing I learned is to keep detailed records of your monthly earnings - not just annual totals. SSA will want to see month-by-month breakdowns if there's any question about whether you exceeded the monthly limits. I used a simple spreadsheet tracking gross income by month which made everything much clearer when I had to provide documentation. Also, if you're doing contract work, make sure you understand how they count the income. It's when you EARN it, not when you get paid. So if you do work in January but don't get paid until March, that income counts toward January for the earnings test purposes.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I was looking for! The point about when income is earned vs when it's paid is crucial - I have some contract payments that might span across months. Did you have any issues with SSA understanding the timing difference, or did your spreadsheet make it clear enough for them?

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Just wanted to add one more important tip from my experience - keep really detailed records of your monthly earnings throughout 2025! Even though you only need to worry about the annual limit, having month-by-month documentation will save you a huge headache if SSA ever questions your reported earnings. I use a simple spreadsheet with dates, sources, and amounts. Also, if you do end up going over the annual limit, the benefits they withhold get added back to your future payments once you reach FRA, so it's not completely lost money - just delayed. Good luck with your consulting work!

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This is such excellent advice about keeping detailed records! I'm definitely going to set up a spreadsheet to track everything monthly. And I had no idea that withheld benefits get added back later - that actually makes me feel a lot less anxious about accidentally going over. Thank you for mentioning that! It's reassuring to know it's not money lost forever, just delayed.

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm in a similar situation - retired at 66 last September and have been stressing about the earnings limits. One thing I wanted to add that my SSA representative mentioned: if you're doing consulting work, make sure you understand how they calculate "net earnings from self-employment." It's not just your gross income - you can deduct legitimate business expenses first. So if that $4,500 consulting gig costs you $500 in equipment, travel, or other business expenses, only $4,000 counts toward your earnings limit. This can make a real difference if you're doing contract work! Also seconding what others said about keeping detailed records - I learned this the hard way when I couldn't find receipts during tax season.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. This is such a difficult time to have to deal with these complicated financial matters. I went through something similar when my father passed away two years ago. The Social Security payment system is really confusing - they pay in arrears but require you to live the entire month to be eligible. It sounds like you've already gotten great advice here and have things sorted out with SSA. Just wanted to add that you might also want to notify his bank about the passing if you haven't already, as they'll need to know for account management purposes. Take care of yourself during this challenging time.

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Thank you so much for your kind words and condolences. You're absolutely right about how difficult it is to handle these things while grieving. I really appreciate everyone in this community who took the time to explain the system and share their experiences - it made such a difference. And yes, good reminder about notifying the bank directly too. It's helpful to have a checklist of all these things that need to be done. Thanks again for your support.

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I'm really sorry for your loss. Going through bureaucratic processes while grieving is incredibly difficult. It sounds like you've gotten excellent guidance from this community and have things well in hand with SSA now. Just wanted to mention that when my grandfather passed, we also had to deal with Medicare Part B premiums that were deducted from his Social Security - those had to be sorted out separately with Medicare. Also, if your father had any automatic bill payments set up from his bank account, you'll want to review those soon since the SSA payment reversal might affect the account balance. Wishing you strength as you work through settling his affairs.

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Thank you for mentioning the Medicare Part B premiums - I hadn't even thought about that! You're right, there are so many interconnected pieces when someone passes away. I'll definitely check on any automatic payments from his account. It's overwhelming how many different agencies and systems you have to navigate, but this community has been incredibly helpful in breaking it all down. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and practical advice during such a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Avery. It sounds like you've been incredibly thorough in handling all the estate matters. I went through something similar with my grandmother's estate last year, and the waiting on hold with SSA was brutal - but you got through it! One tip for anyone else reading this thread: when you receive that form from SSA, make copies of everything before you send it back. I learned this the hard way when SSA claimed they never received my paperwork the first time. Certified mail with return receipt is worth the extra cost for peace of mind. It's great that you were proactive about this. Many people don't realize they need to handle these payments separately from just reporting the death, and it can create bigger headaches down the road.

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That's excellent advice about making copies and using certified mail! I definitely learned from everyone's experiences in this thread about how important documentation is. I'm already making copies of everything before I send it back to SSA. Thanks for the condolences and the practical tip - it's these kinds of details that really help when you're navigating all this for the first time.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my mother's estate. One thing I learned from my attorney is that you should also notify the bank (or whoever is handling the estate account) about this SSA repayment situation. They may need to keep sufficient funds available in the estate account until this is fully resolved, especially if there are other estate debts or distributions pending. The last thing you want is to accidentally distribute estate funds and then not have enough left to cover the SSA repayment when they process it. Good luck with everything - you're handling this much better than I did when I was going through it!

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That's really smart advice about notifying the bank and keeping funds available! I hadn't thought about that potential complication. Since I'm still waiting on the form from SSA and don't know exactly when they'll want the repayment, I'll definitely make sure to keep that amount set aside in the estate account. The last thing I need is to create more problems by not having the funds available when they're ready to process it. Thanks for sharing that tip - it's exactly the kind of detail that could save a lot of headaches later.

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My aunt thought she was gonna get backpay for the COLA starting from her birthday month all the way to January lol. I had to explain that's not how it works! The SSA does such a bad job explaining this stuff.

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I can see why she thought that! The whole system seems unnecessarily complicated. Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone. I now understand that I'll see my increase in my February payment.

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add that you can actually see the exact dates and amounts on your my Social Security account online. If you log in and go to "Message Center" they usually send you a notice in December explaining the COLA increase and when it takes effect. Also, don't panic if your first payment with the increase seems delayed - sometimes there are processing delays in January/February that can push payments back a day or two, but you'll still get the full increased amount. The key thing everyone's mentioned is correct - January increase, but you see it in your February deposit!

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