my sister didnt apply til like 9 years after but her disability started in year 6 so they still approved her. its when the disability starts not when you apply thats what matters

I'm so sorry for your loss and the health challenges you're facing. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you definitely shouldn't give up! The key point everyone is making is that what matters is when your disability BEGAN, not when you apply. Since you mentioned your condition started about 5 years ago (which would be 2019-2020), that's well within the 7-year window from your husband's 2017 death. I'd suggest when you call back, be very specific and say something like: "I need to apply for disabled widow's benefits under Section 202(e) of the Social Security Act. My husband died in 2017, and my disabling condition began in [specific year/date if you know it], which is within the required 7-year period." Don't let them rush you off the phone or give you generic answers. If the first person can't help, ask to speak with someone who specializes in survivor benefits. Having your medical records ready that show when your condition started will be crucial. You've got this - keep fighting for what you're entitled to! 💪

This has been an incredibly informative discussion! As someone who helps people navigate Social Security benefits, I want to add one more consideration that could be crucial for your planning: the restricted application strategy. Since you'll be under your full retirement age when potentially eligible for survivor benefits, you'll have the advantage of being able to claim survivor benefits while letting your own retirement benefit continue to grow with delayed retirement credits until age 70. This could potentially increase your own benefit by 24% beyond your full retirement age amount. However, it's important to understand that once you switch from survivor benefits to your own retirement benefit, you can't switch back. So the timing of that decision becomes critical - you'll want to switch when your own benefit (including delayed retirement credits) exceeds what you'd receive in survivor benefits. Given your income level and the earnings test withholdings, you might find that the optimal strategy is actually to wait until closer to your FRA to claim survivor benefits, then potentially delay your own retirement until 70 if your benefit would be significantly higher. Also consider that if you have any children under 18 (or under 19 if still in high school), they could also be eligible for survivor benefits on your wife's record, which wouldn't be subject to the earnings test. The complexity of these decisions really underscores why speaking with a knowledgeable SSA representative is so valuable for your specific situation.

As a newcomer to understanding Social Security, I have to say this discussion has been incredibly enlightening! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - my spouse and I have a significant age gap, and I had no idea about the flexibility of survivor benefits until reading this thread. One question I have after reading through all these excellent responses: Is there a "best practices" guide or worksheet that SSA provides to help people work through these different scenarios? It seems like there are so many variables (earnings test, delayed retirement credits, FRA timing, etc.) that having a structured way to compare options would be really helpful. Also, I'm curious about the tax implications of survivor benefits. Are they taxed the same way as regular Social Security retirement benefits? This seems like another important factor in the decision-making process that hasn't been mentioned yet. Thank you to everyone who has shared their knowledge here - this is exactly the kind of practical information that's hard to find elsewhere!

I just wanted to update everyone. I finally got through to a supervisor at SSA who confirmed that YES, I can take ONLY survivor benefits at my FRA without taking my own retirement benefits. She explained I need to be very explicit when applying that I'm only applying for widow's benefits. Thank you all for your help and advice - it gave me the confidence to keep pushing for a clear answer!

I'm so sorry for your loss and glad you were able to get a clear answer from SSA! Your story really highlights how important it is to be persistent and ask for supervisors when needed. For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation - I went through this process myself 18 months ago and found it helpful to bring a printed copy of SSA's Program Operations Manual (POMS) section RS 00615.001 which specifically covers survivor benefit applications. Having the official policy in writing seemed to help clarify things with the representative. Also, when you do apply, consider doing it in person at your local office rather than online or by phone - you can review everything before signing and make sure they understand exactly what you're requesting. Best of luck with your application!

One thing I'd add based on my experience helping my mom with this same situation - consider scheduling your appointment for early in the morning if possible. The SSA representatives tend to be less rushed and more thorough earlier in the day. Also, if your local office offers appointments (not all do), definitely take that over walking in. And here's something nobody mentioned yet - make sure you understand what happens at age 70 when you switch to your own retirement benefit. You'll need to contact SSA again to make that switch, and there can be a gap in payments if you don't time it right. My mom's advisor recommended filing for her retirement benefit about 2-3 months before her 70th birthday to ensure seamless transition. Just something to keep in mind for your future planning! Also seconding what others said about bringing a written statement - I helped my mom type up a one-paragraph summary that she handed to the rep, and they really appreciated having it spelled out so clearly.

I'm going through a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add that my financial advisor emphasized - make sure you get a written confirmation or summary letter after your appointment that clearly states you've applied for survivor benefits only and that your retirement benefit remains unaffected. My advisor also suggested asking the SSA rep to walk through the exact dollar amounts you'll receive as survivor benefits versus what your retirement benefit would be at 70, just so you can confirm the strategy still makes sense with the actual numbers. Sometimes the projected amounts can be different than what people initially calculated. Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where you're receiving survivor benefits and then get remarried before age 60? I know it affects eligibility, but I'm curious about the timing rules. Not planning to remarry anytime soon, but want to understand all the implications of this decision. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice you can't get from the SSA website!

I'm sorry for your loss, Steven. As someone new to this community, I wanted to share what I learned when helping my aunt navigate similar decisions. The SSA website has a benefit calculator tool that might help you estimate your future survivor benefits with projected COLAs included. Also, if you haven't already, consider scheduling an appointment at your local SSA office about 6 months before you plan to apply - they can walk you through the entire process and help you understand all your options. Sometimes having that face-to-face conversation can clarify things that seem confusing online. The folks here have given you excellent advice about keeping documentation and double-checking calculations. Wishing you the best as you plan ahead.

I'm new to this community but wanted to offer my condolences on your loss. My father-in-law went through something similar when my mother-in-law passed away in 2021. One thing that really helped him was creating a simple spreadsheet to track the annual COLA increases and estimate his future benefits. He used the historical COLA percentages (which you can find on the SSA website) to project different scenarios. It gave him peace of mind to see the numbers on paper and helped him make better financial decisions while waiting to claim. The folks here have given you excellent advice about documentation and double-checking calculations. Don't hesitate to reach out to this community if you have more questions as you get closer to your claiming date - everyone here seems very knowledgeable and supportive.