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Can I switch to survivor benefits at FRA after pausing early retirement? What happens to my $14,800 overpayment?

I made what feels like a huge mistake taking my Social Security at 62. Last month I got slammed with a $14,800 overpayment notice because I've been working part-time at my daughter's accounting firm and exceeded the earnings limit. I immediately contacted SSA and asked them to suspend my benefits to stop digging this hole deeper. Now my situation has changed dramatically - my husband passed away three weeks ago (still feels surreal typing that). From what I've researched, I think I can switch to survivor benefits when I reach my full retirement age next September without worrying about the earnings limit. But I'm confused about what happens to my currently suspended retirement benefits and that massive overpayment notice. Will they force me to repay everything before I can claim widow's benefits? Can I just let my own retirement benefits sit suspended until 70? The SSA website is so confusing, and I've called six times but keep getting disconnected after 45+ minutes on hold.

They are separate benefits, but the SSA systems treat them as choices within your overall record. When you apply for survivor benefits, clearly state that you want to KEEP your retirement benefits suspended. Get the representative to note this in your file. Also request written confirmation of this instruction. Without being explicit about this, there is a risk they could restart your retirement benefits. Document everything - the name of the representative, date, and confirmation numbers for all communications.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Lauren. You're dealing with a lot right now, and I want to add one important point that might help with your immediate financial concerns. Since you mentioned you're worried about managing financially during the survivor benefit application process - you may be eligible for a one-time lump sum death payment of $255 if you were living with your husband at the time of his death. This is separate from ongoing survivor benefits and can be processed much faster. You'll need to apply within 2 years of his death. It's not a huge amount, but every little bit helps when you're facing an overpayment situation. Also, regarding that overpayment - definitely explore the hardship waiver option given your changed circumstances. The loss of your husband's income combined with the suspended benefits could qualify you for relief. Document your current financial hardship thoroughly when you submit the waiver request.

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Can I see what my Social Security retirement benefit would have been if I hadn't claimed SSDI?

I'm turning full retirement age (FRA) in about 3 months and my SSDI will automatically convert to regular Social Security retirement. I understand the amount stays the same (around $2,175/month), but I'm curious what my retirement benefit would have been if I'd never gone on disability and just worked until FRA. I used to be able to see my projected retirement benefit on the SSA website years ago before I applied for SSDI, but I didn't save or print those statements. Once I started getting disability, that information disappeared from the portal. Is there any way to find out what my 'normal' retirement benefit would have been just for comparison? I'm just curious if claiming SSDI 8 years ago made a significant difference in my benefit amount or if they're roughly the same. The SSA office near me has been impossible to reach by phone and appointments are booked for months.

I went thru the same thing!! When my SSDI changed over i was SHOCKED it was the same amount, i always thought SSDI was more. My neighbor said her husband's check actually went DOWN but i think she's confused about something because everything i've read says the amount stays the same?? The whole system is so confusing lol.

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Your neighbor might be confusing it with another situation. SSDI benefits convert to retirement benefits at exactly the same amount. The only way benefits would go down is if someone was receiving multiple benefits (like dependent benefits) and something changed with their eligibility. But the base benefit amount definitely stays the same through the conversion.

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I'm in a similar situation - my FRA is coming up in a few months and I've been wondering the same thing! From what I've learned reading through these comments, it sounds like the key factor is whether you would have had higher earning years during those 8 years you were on SSDI. Since Social Security uses your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, if you were in your peak earning phase when you became disabled, you probably would have seen some increase in your retirement benefit. But the disability freeze protected you from having zero-income years hurt your calculation, which is actually a good thing. One thing that might help is looking at your old tax returns from right before you went on disability - that could give you an idea of what your trajectory was earnings-wise. If your salary was trending upward, you might have missed out on some higher benefit calculations. But honestly, the peace of mind from having SSDI during those years when you needed it was probably worth more than any potential difference in monthly benefits.

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Can I work part-time sitting jobs while receiving SSDI benefits? Confused about income limits

I recently got diagnosed with a pretty serious back condition that makes it impossible for me to work at my construction job anymore. My doctor is recommending I apply for SSDI since she doesn't think I'll be able to return to physical labor. I'm only 52 and honestly don't know how I feel about going on disability this young. My question is about possibly working while on SSDI. If I were to find a sedentary job (something where I can sit all day), would it make sense to still collect SSDI or should I just forget about disability benefits altogether? How much can you even earn before they cut off your benefits? Is there a phase-out period or do they just terminate everything if you make over some threshold? I'm totally confused about how this all works and don't want to mess up my future benefits. Any advice from people who've been through this?

Regarding sedentary work while on SSDI - there are also programs specifically designed to help SSDI beneficiaries return to work if they're able. The Ticket to Work program provides free employment support services and protection against medical Continuing Disability Reviews while you're participating. Depending on your situation, this might be a good option to explore after you're approved for benefits. You can test your work ability with various supports in place. Look into Benefits Planning Assistance and Outreach (BPAO) services in your area for personalized guidance on how working might affect your benefits.

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I'll definitely look into the Ticket to Work program. I really don't want to be on disability forever if I can avoid it, but I need the safety net while I figure out what kind of work I can sustain with my condition. Thanks for mentioning this!

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Just wanted to add one more perspective as someone who went through this exact situation. I was a roofer for 15 years before my back gave out at 48. Got approved for SSDI after 14 months and one appeal. The key thing that helped my case was getting my orthopedic surgeon AND a pain management doctor to both write detailed RFC assessments specifically stating I couldn't sit for more than 20-30 minutes at a time, needed to lie down 2-3 times during an 8-hour period, and would miss more than 2 days of work per month due to pain flares. Those specific functional limitations are what convinced the judge that even desk jobs weren't viable for me. I now do some freelance bookkeeping from home (maybe 10-12 hours a week) staying well under the SGA limit. The flexibility to work when I'm having good days and rest when I'm not has been a lifesaver. My advice: don't let anyone pressure you into thinking you're "too young" for disability if you truly can't work. Document everything thoroughly and consider getting a disability attorney if you get denied initially.

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Filing joint Social Security application with spouse - anyone done this successfully?

I'm planning to file for my SS retirement benefits next month (turning 67) and my wife will be applying for spousal benefits at the same time (she's 66). We've been looking at the SSA.gov website and I'm getting confused about whether we can submit our applications together or if she needs to wait until my application is approved first. Has anyone gone through this process with their spouse recently? Did you apply simultaneously or wait? And if you applied together, did you do it online or did you have to schedule an appointment? The local office is always packed whenever we drive by, so hoping to avoid that nightmare if possible! This is our first time dealing with Social Security benefits and we want to make sure we're doing it right.

Yes, you'll both need your own my Social Security accounts. Each person needs their own account authenticated with their own personal information for security reasons. The online system will allow you to link the applications during the process, but your wife will need to complete parts of her application herself through her own account. Make sure you both have accounts set up before you start the application process - it will make things much smoother!

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Thank you! I'll make sure we both have accounts set up before we start the process. Really appreciate all the helpful advice from everyone!

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One additional tip that helped us tremendously - make sure to check your Social Security statements online before applying to verify your earnings history is correct. We discovered my wife had a missing year of earnings that we had to get corrected before her spousal benefit calculation would be accurate. It's much easier to fix these issues before you apply rather than after. You can access your statements through your my Social Security account once you set it up. Also, keep copies of everything you submit - the confirmation numbers, uploaded documents, etc. Having a paper trail really helps if you need to follow up on anything during the process.

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Social Security retroactive payment dilemma - $15,500 lump sum vs higher monthly benefit at 69

I'm turning 69 next month and facing a tough decision about my SS retirement benefits. I planned to wait until 70 to maximize my monthly amount, but health issues forced me to reconsider. I've been working at a hardware store and developed severe arthritis in both knees (store's concrete floors are brutal). After a fall that damaged my hip, their workers' comp doctor basically dismissed it as "age-related pain" and now I'm still struggling a year later. When I called SSA about starting benefits now instead of waiting the final year, they offered me a retroactive payment option: about $15,500 lump sum payment (going back 6 months) but my monthly benefit would be permanently reduced by about $95 compared to taking it now without retro. Either way, I'm looking at approximately $250 less per month than if I'd waited until 70. I'm torn. That lump sum could cover some medical treatments insurance won't pay for, or I could invest it. But is losing that extra $95 monthly worth it long-term? I was hoping to keep working part-time while collecting, but my health makes that uncertain. With inflation and all the political talk about potential SS and Medicare changes, I'm worried about making the wrong choice. Anyone been in this situation or have insights? Is taking the retro payment shortsighted?

I just wanted to post a final update - I was able to get an appointment at my local SS office (had to wait 3 weeks!) and went through all the numbers in detail. I decided to take the retroactive payment after all. The lump sum is exactly $15,392 and reduces my monthly payment by $92 compared to filing without retroactivity. I've already set up a separate savings account for about 30% of it for potential taxes next year (thanks for that advice!). The remaining money will go toward medical treatments and paying off debt. Even with the permanently reduced monthly amount, I feel good about this decision given my current health and financial needs. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences and advice!

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Great update! Sounds like you made a well-informed decision that works for your specific situation. Smart move setting aside money for potential taxes too. I hope the treatments help with your knees and hip pain!

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Congratulations on making such a thoughtful decision! It sounds like you really did your homework and considered all the angles - the tax implications, the debt payoff benefits, and most importantly your health needs. I'm in a similar situation at 68 with some health issues, and your post has been really helpful in thinking through my own options. The fact that you'll actually improve your monthly cash flow by $180 after paying off that credit card debt is a great point that shows sometimes the "optimal" choice on paper isn't always the best real-world choice. Wishing you all the best with your treatments and recovery! Thanks for sharing your experience - it's going to help a lot of people in similar situations.

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