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Also if you end up having to go to the office bring WATER AND SNACKS!! Trust me, we were there for almost 3 hours total and they don't even have a vending machine in the waiting area. And charge your phone fully!

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That's great advice - thank you! I'll definitely pack a small cooler with water and snacks for her if we end up having to go in person.

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I went through this same nightmare with my grandmother last year! Here's what finally worked: I called the SSA office directly (not the main 1-800 number) and explained it was for tax purposes with a tight deadline. They were able to schedule a same-day "emergency" appointment. Bring your mom's ID, your ID, the power of attorney paperwork, and any recent bank statements showing her SS deposits. The local office staff were actually super helpful once we got past the phone system. Also pro tip: if you go the bank statement route that others mentioned, make sure to add back in not just Medicare premiums but also any voluntary tax withholdings - those show up on the 1099 but not in the direct deposit amount.

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This is incredibly helpful - I didn't know local offices could do same-day "emergency" appointments for tax deadlines! I'm going to try calling our local SSA office directly tomorrow morning. And thank you for the tip about tax withholdings - I would have missed that completely when calculating from bank statements. Really appreciate you sharing what actually worked!

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To find out what your late husband's full benefit would be, you'll need to speak with an SSA representative. This information isn't readily available on your my Social Security account. When you call, ask specifically for what his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) was - that's the term for his full benefit amount. Then compare that to your own benefit to see which will be higher at your FRA.

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Thank you! I'll specifically ask about his PIA when I call. This has been really helpful - I understand my options much better now.

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I'm in a similar situation and have been researching this extensively. One thing I learned that might help you is that you can actually do a "restricted application" strategy in some cases. Since you're currently receiving both SSDI and survivor benefits, when you reach FRA you'll want to calculate which option gives you the most money overall. Sometimes it makes sense to take your full survivor benefit now and delay your own retirement benefit until age 70 to get delayed retirement credits (8% per year), but this depends on your specific numbers. Also, make sure to get everything in writing when you speak with SSA - I've heard too many stories of people getting different answers from different representatives. Document the date, time, and name of whoever you speak with.

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This is really valuable information about the restricted application strategy! I hadn't heard about delaying my own retirement benefit to get those delayed credits while taking the survivor benefit. That 8% per year increase could really add up. Do you know if there's a calculator somewhere that can help figure out which option would be better long-term? And you're absolutely right about getting everything in writing - I've already gotten different answers from the automated phone system versus what people are saying here.

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my neighbor said if you work over the limit they just take it back later not right away

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That's not quite right. If you expect to earn over the limit, you should report your estimated earnings to SSA right away. They'll reduce your benefits proactively throughout the year. If you don't report it, and they discover later (through tax records) that you earned over the limit, they'll send you an overpayment notice and you'll have to pay back the excess benefits. Much better to have them withhold correctly from the start!

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I'm in a similar situation - turning 62 soon and trying to figure out the best strategy. One thing I learned from my research is that you should also consider the tax implications. If you're working and collecting SS, your benefits might become taxable depending on your "combined income" (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits). For single filers, if combined income is over $25,000, up to 50% of benefits are taxable. Over $34,000 and up to 85% can be taxable. This could affect your overall financial picture even if you stay under the earnings limit.

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Wow, I hadn't even thought about the tax implications! That's a really important point. With my bookkeeping income of $22,000 plus pension of $18,000, plus whatever I'd get from SS at 62 (probably around $1,500/month), I might be looking at some of my benefits being taxable. Do you know if there are any strategies to minimize this tax hit, or is it just something you have to factor into the overall decision?

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Does anyone know if the benefit increase happens RIGHT AWAY after they do the recalculation?? Or is there another waiting period? With Social Security there's ALWAYS some complication they don't tell you about until afterwards!!!

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The benefit increase is applied immediately once the recalculation is completed (typically in October of the year following your work year). There's no additional waiting period - you'll simply see the increased amount in your payment. Sometimes you might receive a small retroactive payment if the increase applies to benefits you've already received in the current year.

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This is such great information! I'm in a similar situation - took early retirement at 62 but now considering part-time work. Reading through all these responses, I'm curious about one thing: does it matter HOW MUCH you earn when it comes to the recalculation? Like, if I only work part-time and earn say $15,000 a year, would that still potentially increase my benefit if it's higher than one of my lower earning years from the past? Or do the new earnings need to be substantial to make any meaningful difference in the monthly payment? Also, for those who've been through this process - do you get any notification from SSA when they do the recalculation, or does your payment just quietly increase one month?

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Great questions! Yes, even part-time earnings of $15,000 can definitely increase your benefit if that amount is higher than one of your lowest earning years in your top 35. Since you retired at 62, you might have some very low or zero earning years that could easily be replaced by even modest part-time work. The increase might seem small on a monthly basis, but remember it's permanent for the rest of your life, so even a $20-30 monthly increase adds up over time. And yes, SSA does send you a letter explaining the recalculation when it happens - they're actually pretty good about documenting benefit changes. The letter will show your old benefit amount, new amount, and briefly explain why it changed (usually says something like "due to additional earnings"). Just keep in mind that since you claimed at 62, you're subject to the earnings test until you reach your FRA, so watch those earning limits if you're still a few years away from full retirement age!

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wait i thought medicare was only for people over 65???

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Medicare is primarily for those 65+, but it's also available to people who've received SSDI for 24 months, regardless of age. This is sometimes called "Medicare for the disabled." It provides the same coverage as Medicare for seniors.

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Just wanted to add that you should also check if your husband qualifies for any state disability programs while waiting for Medicare. Some states have programs that can help bridge the gap during that 24-month waiting period. Also, when he does get Medicare, make sure to understand the difference between Parts A, B, C, and D - Part A (hospital) is free for SSDI recipients, but Part B (medical) has a monthly premium. You can enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan (Part C) or stick with Original Medicare plus a supplement. Start researching these options about 6 months before his Medicare eligibility date so you're prepared!

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This is really great advice! I hadn't thought about looking into state disability programs. We're in California - do you happen to know if they have any programs that might help during the waiting period? And thanks for the heads up about the different Medicare parts. I'm already feeling overwhelmed trying to understand all of this, so starting to research 6 months early sounds like a smart idea.

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California does have some good options! Look into Medi-Cal (California's Medicaid program) - many SSDI recipients qualify based on income limits, and it can provide coverage during the Medicare waiting period. There's also the California COBRA Continuation Coverage program and subsidized plans through Covered California that might be more affordable than regular COBRA. I'd recommend calling your county's social services office - they often have benefits specialists who can walk you through all available programs. The sooner you apply for anything you might qualify for, the better, since there can be waiting periods for approval.

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