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I'm trying to help my son (27) navigate his first Trial Work Period with SSDI. He's been on disability for 3 years due to severe bipolar disorder, but he's doing well enough to try part-time work at a local warehouse. I'm confused about how SSA tracks his Trial Work Period months though. Does Social Security count the gross wages as WORKED/EARNED in a specific month or when they were actually RECEIVED/PAID? This seems really important for determining which months count toward his 9-month TWP. For example, his last pay period was May 26-June 8, but he got paid on June 15. Some of those hours were worked in May, some in June. If he worked enough hours in May to go over the TWP threshold ($1,110 for 2025?), but the actual paycheck came in June, which month gets counted? And if SSA goes by when the work was PERFORMED rather than PAID, how do they even figure that out? His paystubs don't break down which hours were worked on which dates - only his timesheets show that detail, and SSA doesn't ask for timesheets, just paystubs. Any insights from those who've dealt with this? I'm worried about accidentally triggering TWP months or worse, having him get an overpayment later because we reported incorrectly.
I'm trying to understand how working until my Full Retirement Age affects my Social Security calculation. I'm 61 now and planning to work full-time until my FRA (66 years and 8 months). I've heard Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings to calculate benefits, but someone told me that earnings after age 60 are weighted differently or might not count as much? Is this true? Will my salary from age 60 until FRA be fully counted in the top 35 years calculation? I'm earning about $78,000 now, which is higher than most of my earlier years, so I'm hoping these final years will boost my benefit amount.
I can understand the confusion - there's a lot of misinformation floating around about Social Security calculations! Let me add some clarity from someone who went through this recently. I'm 63 and just went through the detailed benefit calculation process with SSA. Your earnings from 60 until your FRA absolutely DO count toward your highest 35 years. The key difference people get confused about is the "indexing" - earnings before age 60 get adjusted upward for wage inflation, while earnings at 60+ are used at their actual dollar amount. But here's the important part: if your current $78,000 salary is higher than some of your earlier years (even after those earlier years are indexed for inflation), then yes, these recent years will boost your benefit calculation by replacing lower-earning years. I'd strongly recommend logging into your my.ssa.gov account to see your complete earnings history and get an updated benefit estimate. It shows exactly which years are being used in your top 35 calculation. In my case, my earnings from ages 60-63 replaced several low-earning years from my twenties, increasing my projected monthly benefit by about $200. Don't let the misinformation discourage you from working until your FRA if that's your plan - those higher-earning years can really pay off in retirement!
Thank you so much for sharing your real experience with this! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through the actual calculation process. I'm definitely going to log into my.ssa.gov account this weekend to look at my earnings history and see which years are currently in my top 35. A $200 monthly increase is huge - that's $2,400 more per year! I feel much more confident now about my plan to work until my FRA. All these responses have been incredibly helpful in clearing up the confusion.
I'm so glad to see this question being asked! I just turned 62 and have been getting conflicting advice from friends and family about this exact issue. My financial advisor told me to keep working because my recent earnings would help boost my Social Security benefits, but my brother-in-law (who retired early) kept insisting that only earnings before 60 "really count." Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. It sounds like the key takeaway is that ALL earnings can potentially be part of your highest 35 years calculation, regardless of when you earned them. The indexing difference for pre-60 vs. post-60 earnings doesn't mean the later years count less - it's just a different method of calculation. I'm in a similar situation to the original poster - earning more now than I did in my earlier career years. I think I'll follow the advice here and check my earnings record on my.ssa.gov to see exactly where I stand. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences and clearing up the confusion!
I'm trying to understand how SS payments work for divorced spouse benefits. My sister (62) just reached her full retirement age this month and applied for both her own retirement benefits and divorced spouse benefits based on her ex-husband's record (they were married for 13 years). She received her first payment yesterday and is completely confused. The amount she got is only $1,840, which is WAY less than what she expected based on her ex's earnings. She thought she'd get around $2,750 (half of his benefit). Now she's wondering if SS made a mistake or if there's supposed to be a second payment coming to make up the difference? Does anyone know if SS sends one combined payment or two separate checks in this situation? She's afraid to call and ask them in case they think she's being greedy, but this difference is huge for her monthly budget. Thanks for any help!
Update: My sister called SSA this morning (took almost 2 hours to get through). The representative confirmed that they haven't fully processed her divorced spouse benefit yet! Apparently, they processed her retirement claim first and are still working on the divorced spouse portion. They said it could take another 4-6 weeks to process, but she will receive backpay for the difference once it's done. Thank you everyone for your help! This forum saved her a lot of anxiety.
That's such great news! I'm so glad she was able to get through and get a clear answer. It's really helpful that you shared the update - I'm sure other people going through similar situations will benefit from knowing that this processing delay is normal and that backpay will be included. Four to six weeks seems like a long time to wait, but at least now she knows what to expect. Thanks for following up with the resolution!
I need to double-check my Social Security calculations before I make a big mistake! I'm 66 years and 1 month now, with my Full Retirement Age (FRA) coming up in June 2025. My husband already started his SS benefits at his FRA last year. I'm trying to decide whether to start my benefits NOW (January 2025) or wait until my actual FRA in June. My own benefit plus the spousal top-up would give me $500 extra per month from my husband's record. I've calculated that starting in January instead of waiting until June would only reduce my monthly benefit by about $52. This makes me think I should just start in January. HERE'S MY CONCERN: I work seasonally from March-December earning about $3,500 monthly (so under $22,000 total before reaching my FRA in June). Will the earnings limit affect me since I'm starting benefits before FRA? Will they withhold some of my benefits? Is my math right that it's better to start in January despite the small reduction? I'm worried I'm missing something important in my calculations!
Based on all the information and corrections, here's a summary of your optimal strategy: 1. Apply now but specify January 2025 as your benefit start month 2. Make sure to apply for both your retirement benefit and the spousal benefit simultaneously 3. Your March-May earnings ($10,500) are well below the pre-FRA limit, so no benefits will be withheld 4. The permanent reduction for starting 5 months early is minimal ($52/month) compared to receiving 5 extra months of payments 5. After June 2025 (your FRA), you can earn unlimited amounts without affecting your benefits Taking benefits in January 2025 appears to be the mathematically optimal choice in your specific situation.
Congratulations on doing your homework before making this decision! As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through all the helpful responses here. One thing I'd add that might be worth considering - when you apply online, make sure to print or save copies of everything you submit. I've heard from friends that having documentation can be really helpful if any questions come up later about your application or benefit calculations. Also, after you submit your application, you should receive a confirmation letter from SSA within a few weeks confirming your benefit amounts and start date. Good luck with your application!
I officially started receiving Social Security retirement benefits in February 2025 (for my January payment). Here's my situation - I had significant earnings in 2023 (around $85,000) that would definitely improve my benefit calculation by replacing one of my zero-income years from when I was younger. When I called SSA about this, the representative told me they won't include my 2023 earnings in my current benefit amount, but will make an automatic adjustment in October 2025. Is this normal? Has anyone experienced this October recalculation? I'm also wondering when the annual COLA increase typically hits our payments. This is my first year receiving benefits, so I'm still learning how everything works!
Does anyone know if they do these AERO adjustments for SSDI too or just retirement? My son is on disability and had some earnings in 2023 (under SGA limits).
As someone who just went through this process myself, I can confirm everything others have said about the October AERO timing. One thing I'd add - when you get your adjustment letter, keep it for your records! The letter will break down exactly how your new benefit was calculated and show which year got replaced in your earnings record. It's really helpful to understand how SSA determines your benefit amount. Also, don't be surprised if the retroactive payment takes a few extra weeks to arrive after your regular benefit gets adjusted - they process them separately.
Zachary Hughes
There's no specific SSA form for breaking down cross-month earnings. A simple typed or handwritten note attached to your wage report is sufficient. I recommend something like: "For pay period 5/26/25-6/8/25 (paid 6/15/25), earnings were earned as follows: $X.XX earned in May and $X.XX earned in June based on attached timesheet." Keep copies of everything you submit. And when you report through the my Social Security portal, take screenshots as proof of submission. One important point nobody has mentioned: After the 9-month TWP is complete, your son will enter the Extended Period of Eligibility (EPE) for 36 months. During EPE, he can still receive SSDI benefits in any month he earns below Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) level ($1,550/month for 2025). This is when precise tracking becomes even more important.
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Mia Alvarez
wait what happens after the 36 month EPE thing?? does SSDI just stop forever if u work to much?? my brothers been getting ssdi for like 3yrs but his mental health goes up n down and sometimes he can work but then has bad episodes
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Chris King
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses. It sounds like officially SSA counts when the money is EARNED, but in practice they often go by the pay period end date on the paystub unless there's a specific reason to look more closely at it. I'm going to: 1. Keep detailed records of which hours my son works on which days 2. Submit all paystubs promptly through his my Social Security account 3. Include notes explaining the breakdown for pay periods that cross months 4. Keep all timesheets as backup documentation It's frustrating that something seemingly so simple is actually so complicated! But I appreciate all your insights and experiences.
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Carmen Ruiz
@Mia Alvarez After the 36-month EPE ends, if your brother is still earning above SGA level consistently, his SSDI would terminate. However, there are some important protections: 1 He) can request Expedited "Reinstatement within" 5 years if his condition worsens and he can t'work again - no need to reapply from scratch, 2 There) s'also something called unsuccessful "work attempt provisions" that can protect benefits if he tries to work but has to stop due to his disability within 6 months. Given that your brother has bipolar like (the OP s'son ,)the episodic nature of mental health conditions is something SSA does consider. I d'recommend he speak with a disability advocate or attorney before his EPE period ends to understand all his options.
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