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I'm so glad you found this information helpful! As someone who went through a similar situation, I wanted to add one more important point: when you call SSA, make sure to specifically ask about the "deemed filing" rules since you're already receiving SSDI. Sometimes the SSA representatives aren't familiar with how SSDI interacts with spousal benefits, so you might want to mention that you understand you can receive the higher of either your SSDI amount or the spousal benefit amount, but not both in full. Also, since you're 62, ask them to calculate both what you'd get now versus what you'd get if you waited until your full retirement age - sometimes the math works out better to wait depending on your specific situation. One last thing - if the first person you talk to seems uncertain about the rules, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist. These cases can be complex and not every rep handles them regularly. Wishing you the best of luck with this process!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't heard about the "deemed filing" rules before, so I'll make sure to bring that up specifically when I call. You're absolutely right that I should ask them to calculate both scenarios - getting benefits now versus waiting until full retirement age. Given that I'm struggling financially right now, any increase would be welcome, but it's smart to understand the long-term implications too. I really appreciate you mentioning that I might need to ask for a supervisor if the first rep isn't familiar with these rules. It sounds like these SSDI/spousal benefit combinations can be tricky even for SSA staff. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's giving me much more confidence going into this process!
I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share what I learned when I helped my neighbor with a similar situation last year. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you should ask SSA about any potential "government pension offset" (GPO) or "windfall elimination provision" (WEP) that might affect your benefits. These rules can reduce Social Security benefits if you receive certain types of pensions, though they typically apply to government pensions rather than SSDI. Also, since you mentioned being in Florida now, you might want to check if there's a local SSA field office near you. Sometimes it's easier to get help in person, especially for complex cases like yours where you're dealing with both SSDI and potential ex-spousal benefits. You can find local offices on the SSA website. One more tip: if your ex-husband's earnings were significantly higher than yours (which sounds likely given the potential benefit amounts others have mentioned), this could be a game-changer for your monthly budget. Don't get discouraged if the first call doesn't go smoothly - persistence really pays off with SSA. Good luck!
Welcome to the community, and thank you for sharing such helpful information! I really appreciate you mentioning the GPO and WEP - I had never heard of those before. Since I'm only receiving SSDI and don't have any government pensions, hopefully those won't apply to my situation, but it's definitely something I'll ask about when I call SSA just to be sure. The suggestion about visiting a local SSA office is great too. I've been dreading trying to handle this all over the phone, especially after reading about the long wait times. There's actually an SSA office about 20 minutes from me in Tampa, so maybe I'll try scheduling an in-person appointment instead. That might be easier for such a complex situation. Your point about persistence is really encouraging. After reading everyone's experiences here, it's clear that this process can be challenging but potentially very rewarding. The thought that this could significantly help my monthly budget is what's motivating me to push through whatever obstacles come up. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice!
One additional thing to consider - if you received retroactive survivors benefits while also receiving another type of benefit (like retirement on your own record), there might be an offset calculation happening too. Also, I'd recommend checking if the $13,358.20 figure includes any amount they might have withheld for potential tax liability. For larger backpay amounts, SSA sometimes withholds 10% for federal taxes unless you specifically requested otherwise. When you call, ask for a "MACADE" printout (Master Beneficiary Record Computer Access Data Extract) which shows all payment calculations and adjustments. Most representatives don't offer this unless specifically requested.
This is a really comprehensive discussion! As someone new to survivor benefits, I'm finding all these document names and potential reasons for discrepancies incredibly helpful. One thing I'd add - when you do call SSA, ask them to send you a written explanation of the calculation along with whatever documents people have mentioned. Having it in writing protects you if there are future disputes about overpayments. Also, if you're not satisfied with the first representative's explanation, don't hesitate to call back and speak with someone else. Sometimes different reps have different levels of knowledge about the more complex calculation issues that can affect survivor benefits. Good luck getting this sorted out - it sounds like you're being very proactive about understanding the numbers, which is exactly the right approach!
Update: I finally got through to someone at SSA today after trying for three days. The agent explained that they had initially calculated my benefit based on my husband's estimated earnings for his last year of work, but when the actual earnings were processed, it was lower than estimated. They're giving me options to either have reduced payments for 10 months or pay a lump sum (which I can't afford). I'm still going to file for reconsideration because I don't think I should be penalized for their estimation error. Thank you all for your helpful advice and support during this stressful time. The forms and information you suggested really helped me understand what was happening and what my options are.
That's a very common cause of overpayments, unfortunately. When applying for survivor benefits, SSA often has to estimate the deceased's final earnings if tax information hasn't been fully processed yet. Later, when actual earnings are recorded, they adjust the benefit amount, which can result in an overpayment notice. Definitely proceed with the reconsideration, and be sure to emphasize that you had no way of knowing their estimate was incorrect and that recovery would cause financial hardship. Best of luck, and let us know how it goes!
I'm so glad you were able to get through and get some clarity on what happened! That estimation issue is incredibly frustrating - you're absolutely right that you shouldn't be penalized for their error. When you file your reconsideration, make sure to emphasize that: 1. You relied on SSA's benefit determination in good faith 2. You had no way to verify their earnings estimate was incorrect 3. The overpayment was entirely due to their administrative process, not any action on your part Also consider requesting a waiver alongside the reconsideration. Even if the overpayment stands, you might still qualify for waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship. Many people don't realize you can pursue both options simultaneously. Keep us posted on how the reconsideration goes - your experience could really help others in similar situations!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm bookmarking it for future reference. It's really reassuring to see how common these Medicare premium adjustment payments are when transitioning to Social Security. The lack of immediate explanation from SSA definitely causes unnecessary anxiety, but seeing everyone's experiences here shows it's just part of their standard process. For anyone else dealing with mysterious payments - it seems like the pattern is: if you're transitioning from direct Medicare payments to SS deductions, expect some kind of adjustment payment that might not be immediately explained in your online account. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those with professional knowledge who provided the detailed explanations!
Absolutely agree! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, threads like this are incredibly valuable. It's frustrating how SSA doesn't provide clearer communication upfront about these adjustment payments, but it's comforting to see how many people go through the same confusion and that it usually resolves itself. The community knowledge here really fills in the gaps where official communication falls short. I'm saving this thread too - the explanations about Medicare premium transitions and IRMAA adjustments are things I never would have figured out on my own. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and expertise!
This thread is incredibly helpful for anyone dealing with unexpected SSA payments! I just went through something similar when I started my disability benefits - got a random $67 payment about three weeks before my regular benefits began, with zero explanation. Like others mentioned, it turned out to be related to Medicare premium adjustments since I had been paying Part B premiums directly. The frustrating part is that SSA's customer service seems to assume everyone understands their complex payment systems, but for those of us new to the process, these mystery deposits can be really stressful. It's great to see the community filling in these knowledge gaps where official communication fails. For future readers: if you're transitioning any type of Medicare premium payment method when starting SS benefits, expect some kind of adjustment payment that may not be immediately explained!
Ava Williams
WAIT!! If you have a mySSA account you can get the updated benefit letter online in early December!! Thats what I did last year after waiting FOREVER for the paper letter!!! Go to ssa.gov and make an account if you dont have one!
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Ingrid Larsson
•Several people have mentioned this now - I definitely need to set this up! I have her POA so hopefully I can manage it for her. This sounds like the most reliable solution by far.
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Malik Jackson
I work at a local senior center and deal with this issue every year! Here's what I've learned: The SSA usually updates the online benefit verification letters in the first week of December, which is your best bet for meeting that December 10th deadline. Since you have POA, you can definitely set up the mySSA account for your mom. Just make sure to have her Social Security card, birth certificate, and a utility bill handy when you create it - they're pretty strict about identity verification. Also, pro tip: some assisted living facilities will accept a printed email from SSA customer service confirming the new benefit amount if you explain the urgent housing deadline when you call. Worth asking your mom's facility if they'd accept that as backup documentation!
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