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Since you're planning to continue working part-time while collecting, also be aware of how your earnings will be calculated for the earnings test. SSA counts income when it's earned, not when it's paid. So December bonuses count for December even if paid in January. Good news is that once you reach your Full Retirement Age, the earnings test no longer applies - you can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. For the year you reach FRA, there's a higher limit and a lower penalty rate for the months before your birthday month. Regarding application timing - I recommend applying approximately 2 months before you want benefits to begin. The SSA's processing times can vary dramatically depending on their workload and staffing.
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who did exactly what you're planning! I took Medicare at 65 but delayed SS for about a year. The key things that worked for me: 1. Applied for SS benefits exactly 8 weeks before I wanted them to start - perfect timing 2. Set up automatic Medicare premium payments through my bank since I wouldn't have SS to deduct from 3. Created a my Social Security account online early to track my estimated benefits as they grew each month One thing I wish I'd known: if you're getting any kind of pension or 401k distributions while waiting, make sure those won't affect your future SS benefits calculation. Most won't, but it's worth double-checking. Also, since you mentioned reducing to 20 hours - that's actually a sweet spot for many people. You keep some income flowing while your SS benefits increase, plus you might qualify for some ACA marketplace subsidies if your employer plan gets too expensive. Good luck with your plan!
This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you for sharing all those practical details. The 8-week timeline seems to be the sweet spot that everyone's mentioning. I hadn't thought about setting up automatic Medicare payments - that's a great tip since I'll need to handle those separately. And you're right about the 20-hour arrangement potentially being ideal - keeps me active and earning while letting my benefits grow. Did you find the online account helpful for tracking your benefit increases month by month?
Yes, the online account was super helpful! I could literally watch my monthly benefit estimate go up each month I delayed. It's motivating when you can see the dollars adding up. The interface shows you exactly how much you'll get at different claiming ages, so you can make informed decisions about when to pull the trigger. Plus having the account set up early meant no delays when I was ready to apply - everything was already verified and ready to go. Definitely recommend getting that set up ASAP if you haven't already!
This is such valuable information about children's benefits! I'm the original poster and I'm so glad @Giovanni Rossi brought this up. I had been so focused on my own benefit eligibility that I completely overlooked what might be available for my kids. Just to clarify - when you say children can get benefits when their parent retires, does this apply even if the parent remarries? My ex got remarried last year, and I wasn't sure if that would affect anything for our children's potential benefits. Also, would my own remarriage impact my kids' eligibility in any way? I'm definitely going to organize all his employment and SSN information better now. It's reassuring to know that even though I missed out on the 10-year rule, my children still have these potential benefits available to them. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Great questions! Neither your ex-spouse's remarriage nor your own remarriage affects your children's eligibility for benefits on their father's record. Children's benefits are based solely on their relationship to the worker (their father) - not on the parents' marital status. So even though your ex remarried, your kids can still receive benefits when he retires, becomes disabled, or dies. And your remarriage doesn't impact their eligibility either. The only factors that matter for children's benefits are: 1) The child's age (must be under 18, or under 19 if in high school) 2) The child's relationship to the worker (biological or legally adopted) 3) The worker's benefit status (retired, disabled, or deceased) This is one area where Social Security rules are actually pretty straightforward - children's benefits aren't affected by all the complicated marriage duration and remarriage rules that impact spousal benefits. It's definitely worth keeping that documentation organized since you never know when circumstances might change!
As someone who's navigated similar Social Security questions, I want to echo what others have said about the 10-year rule being absolute - there truly are no exceptions for having children together when it comes to divorced spouse retirement benefits. I learned this the hard way when helping my sister with her situation. However, I'm really glad @Giovanni Rossi brought up the children's benefits aspect! This is something many people overlook. Your kids having potential access to benefits on their father's record is actually quite valuable, especially since your youngest will still be under 18 when your ex reaches early retirement age. One thing I'd add is to consider creating a simple file with all the relevant information - your ex's full name, SSN, dates of employment at major jobs, etc. You never know when circumstances might change, and having this organized will make any future applications much smoother. I've seen too many people scramble to find this information when they need it most. It's frustrating about missing the 10-year mark by such a small margin, but focusing on maximizing your own earnings record and knowing about your children's potential benefits gives you a clearer path forward for retirement planning.
This is excellent advice about keeping organized records! I'm definitely going to create a dedicated file with all my ex's employment information. You're absolutely right that it's easy to overlook the children's benefits angle when you're focused on your own retirement planning disappointment. I have to say, this whole conversation has been so educational. When I first posted, I was really hoping there might be some exception to the 10-year rule that I hadn't heard about. While it's disappointing that there isn't, at least now I have a complete picture of what benefits are and aren't available. The children's benefits information is honestly a silver lining I never would have discovered on my own. Even though my kids are already 12 and 14, knowing they could potentially receive benefits during their final years of high school and knowing to keep that documentation ready is really valuable planning information. Thank you everyone for taking the time to educate me on all these different aspects of Social Security!
my neighbor works for ssa and she says they're getting training about the wep/gpo changes already, so they must think it's really happening this time! good luck with everything!
I'm so sorry for your loss, Peyton. Losing a spouse so young is devastating, and dealing with benefit calculations during grief is incredibly difficult. From what I understand about survivor benefits, the SSA does calculate your wife's PIA based on her actual earnings record up to her death date, but they treat it as if she reached her full retirement age - so no reduction for early death. This is different from regular retirement benefits. The GPO situation is particularly complex. Currently, it would reduce your survivor benefit by 2/3 of your government pension amount. If HR82 passes, this reduction would be eliminated entirely. I'd strongly recommend getting a written survivor benefit estimate from SSA that shows both scenarios - with and without the GPO reduction. This will help you understand exactly what you're looking at financially. Don't rely on online calculators for your specific situation. Also, since you mentioned you're affected by GPO, I assume you have a government pension. Make sure SSA has all the correct information about both your wife's earnings record and your pension details when they do the calculation. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.
Thank you Katherine for the compassionate and thorough response. You're absolutely right about getting written estimates from SSA for both scenarios. I do have a government pension (teacher's retirement system), so the GPO has been a concern of mine for years. It's helpful to hear from someone who understands how complex these interactions can be. I'll make sure SSA has all the correct information about both records when I meet with them. Your advice about not relying on online calculators is spot on - my situation has too many variables for generic tools to handle accurately.
Update: I used the office locator and found my local SSA office address. I'm going to go in person tomorrow with my completed W-4V form and request a receipt. Thanks everyone for your help! Hoping to get this resolved before the next tax year starts.
I went through this same process about 6 months ago and can share what worked for me. I ended up mailing my W-4V to my local SSA office using certified mail with return receipt requested - cost about $6 but gave me peace of mind knowing they received it. The withholding started showing up on my benefits about 5 weeks later. One thing to note: they don't send you any confirmation letter when the withholding begins, so you'll only know it worked when you see the reduced payment amount on your monthly deposit. I'd recommend keeping track of your monthly benefit amounts so you can tell right away when the withholding kicks in. Good luck with getting this sorted out!
Carmen Ortiz
Good luck with calling tomorrow morning! Just a tip - I've found that calling right when they open (usually 9 AM) gives you the best chance of getting through quickly. Also, if you do end up needing to mail or fax documentation, make sure to include your Social Security number on every page and keep copies for your records. The whole WEP situation is frustrating, but you're doing the right thing by reporting it promptly to avoid any overpayment issues down the road.
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Samantha Johnson
•That's great advice about calling right when they open! I never thought about that timing strategy. I'll definitely make sure to have my SSN on all the documents too. This whole process seems more manageable now with everyone's help. Fingers crossed I can get through on the first try tomorrow morning!
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Yuki Nakamura
Just wanted to share my experience as another newcomer here - I went through something similar last month when my state pension increased. I called my local SSA office at exactly 9 AM like Carmen suggested and got through in about 10 minutes! The representative was super helpful and walked me through exactly what they needed. They made a note in my file right away and said I'd get a letter in 2-3 weeks if my benefit amount changes. One thing that really helped was having my pension administrator's letter with the exact new monthly amount ready when I called. They asked for the effective date of the increase too, so make sure you have that info handy. Good luck with your call tomorrow Reginald!
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Nadia Zaldivar
•That's really encouraging to hear Yuki! Thank you for sharing your recent experience. It gives me hope that I can actually get through without waiting forever. I'll definitely have all my documentation organized before I call - the pension letter with the new amount and effective date, plus my SSN handy. It's so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this exact same process successfully. Thanks for the tip about the effective date too, I wouldn't have thought to have that ready!
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