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Congratulations on getting through and getting approved! That's a significant monthly benefit that will definitely help with raising your daughter. Just wanted to add a couple of things others haven't mentioned: 1) If your situation changes and you and your husband legally separate or divorce, you may still be eligible for divorced spouse benefits later when you turn 62 (as long as your marriage lasted at least 10 years, which yours has). 2) Keep good records of all the paperwork you submit to SSA. Sometimes documents get lost in their system and having copies can save you time if you need to resubmit anything. 3) The benefits should be retroactive to when you first became eligible (likely when your daughter started receiving benefits), so you might get a lump sum back payment. It's really encouraging to see someone navigate the SSA system successfully and get the help they're entitled to. Your story will definitely help other parents in similar situations!

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This is such valuable additional information! I hadn't even thought about the retroactive payments or keeping copies of documents. The point about divorced spouse benefits is interesting too - good to know that's an option down the road if needed. It's amazing how many different types of Social Security benefits exist that most people don't know about. Thanks for sharing these practical tips!

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - my ex-husband is collecting disability benefits and our 12-year-old receives benefits on his record. I'm 45 and have primary custody. I had no idea I might be eligible for mother's benefits too. The information about it not mattering that we're divorced (as long as I'm caring for the child) is news to me. Gabriel, thank you for asking this question and sharing your successful outcome - it's given me hope that I can navigate this process too. The tip about Claimyr.com might be a lifesaver since I've also had terrible luck getting through to SSA by phone. Going to look into applying for these benefits this week!

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Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds very similar to Gabriel's, and you're absolutely right that you may be eligible for mother's benefits. The great news is that being divorced doesn't disqualify you as long as you're caring for a child under 16 who receives benefits on your ex-husband's record. The key requirements are that you have custody/care of the child and that you were married to the worker (your ex-husband) for at least 10 years - though for these specific mother's benefits, I believe the 10-year rule may not even apply since it's based on caring for the child. Definitely worth pursuing! Good luck with your application this week.

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As a newcomer here, I wanted to share something that might be helpful based on my recent experience helping my mother navigate Social Security. One thing we discovered is that you can actually request a personalized survivor benefit estimate directly from SSA by calling or visiting in person. They can run the exact calculations based on your current earnings record and projected benefit amount. This gave us much more accurate numbers than the online estimators. Also, I'd suggest documenting not just your benefit statements, but also any conversations you have with SSA agents - get names, dates, and case numbers if they assign one. My mom had conflicting information from different agents, and having those details helped resolve the discrepancy. Finally, consider setting up automatic notifications in your MySocialSecurity account so both you and your wife get alerts about any changes to your benefits or earnings record. It's a small step but can help catch issues early.

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Welcome to the community, StarSurfer! This is incredibly practical advice. I hadn't thought about requesting a personalized survivor benefit estimate directly from SSA - that sounds much more reliable than trying to piece together information from online calculators. The documentation tip is especially valuable - I've heard too many stories in this thread about people getting conflicting information from different agents, and having names and case numbers would definitely help if we run into that situation. Setting up automatic notifications is also a great suggestion that I'll implement right away. It seems like so many issues with Social Security could be avoided with better record-keeping and proactive monitoring. Thanks for sharing what you learned from helping your mother - these real-world tips are exactly what we need when planning for something this important.

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add something that might be useful for your planning. I recently went through Social Security benefit planning with my spouse, and one thing our financial advisor emphasized was the importance of understanding the "do-over" rules. If you change your mind within 12 months of starting benefits, you can withdraw your application and repay what you've received (without interest) to essentially reset and claim later at a higher amount. This could be relevant if you start claiming at your FRA but then realize waiting until 70 would significantly benefit your wife's future survivor benefits. Also, make sure you both understand that survivor benefits aren't just about monthly payments - your wife would also become eligible for any Medicare benefits you're receiving, and she'd retain the higher benefit for life (unless she remarries before age 60). The peace of mind from having this all documented and understood ahead of time is really invaluable.

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Welcome to the community, Carmella! That's fascinating information about the "do-over" rules - I had no idea that was even possible! The ability to withdraw and repay within 12 months could definitely be a game-changer for our planning. If I start claiming at my FRA and then realize the math works better for waiting until 70 for my wife's sake, having that option could be really valuable. I'll definitely need to research this more and maybe discuss it with a financial advisor. The point about Medicare benefits transferring is also something I hadn't considered - it's amazing how many interconnected pieces there are to Social Security planning. Thanks for bringing up these additional layers of complexity that we should be thinking about!

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This is such valuable information! I'm 61 and in a similar situation - divorced after 15 years, ex-spouse passed away 8 years ago. I've been wondering about this exact strategy but wasn't sure if it was allowed. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. I especially appreciate the tips about using specific terminology like "restricted application for survivor benefits only" and the reminder about gathering all the necessary documents early. One question I have - has anyone here actually gone through this process recently? I'm curious about how long it takes from application to receiving the first benefit payment. Also, does SSA automatically send you reminders when you're approaching 70 to switch to your own benefits, or is it really up to you to remember and initiate that change?

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Hi Anastasia! I went through this process about 18 months ago, so I can share my recent experience. From application to first payment took about 6-8 weeks, which was faster than I expected. I applied online initially but ended up having to go to the local office to sort out some documentation issues. As for the switch at 70 - no, SSA definitely does NOT automatically remind you or switch you over. You have to be proactive about it. I actually set up calendar reminders starting 6 months before I turn 70 to make sure I don't forget. The representative I worked with emphasized that this is entirely on you to remember and initiate. She suggested applying for your own retirement benefits about 2-3 months before you turn 70 to ensure there's no gap in payments. Hope this helps!

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I'm 58 and recently widowed after being divorced from my ex-husband for 6 years. We were married for 14 years before the divorce. Reading through this thread has given me hope that I might have some options when I get older! I had no idea that divorced spouses could be eligible for survivor benefits. Does anyone know if there are any special considerations for people who become widows/widowers closer to age 60? I'm wondering if I should start gathering documents now or if there are other benefits I might be eligible for sooner than the full retirement age strategy discussed here. Also, is there a difference between being a "surviving divorced spouse" versus a regular surviving spouse in terms of benefit amounts? This is all so overwhelming but everyone's shared experiences here are really helping me understand what might be possible.

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As a newcomer to this community and someone approaching retirement age myself, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea these Social Security phishing scams were so prevalent and sophisticated. The timing aspect you experienced, Landon, would have completely freaked me out too - it's such a relief to hear from multiple people (including an actual SSA employee) that this is just an unfortunate coincidence and not a sign of a security breach. The practical advice here is invaluable - I'm writing down all the red flags everyone mentioned: exclamation points in subject lines, urgent language like "Check Now!!", direct clickable links, and anything that doesn't come from an official @ssa.gov address. The fact that legitimate SSA communications only go through the message center and are always formal in tone is something I definitely wouldn't have known otherwise. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise. This is exactly the kind of knowledge-sharing that makes online communities so valuable, especially for those of us navigating these major life transitions for the first time!

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Welcome to the community, Andre! I'm also relatively new here and found this thread to be such a valuable learning experience. It's amazing how much practical knowledge gets shared in discussions like this. What really stood out to me was how the scammers seem to exploit that vulnerable moment right after applying when you're already anxious about the process. The fact that multiple experienced members and even an SSA employee confirmed this is just coincidental timing really helps put things in perspective. I'm definitely going to be much more cautious about any emails I receive once I start my application process. Thanks for summarizing all those red flags - having them in one place makes it so much easier to remember what to watch out for!

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As someone who's new to this community and will likely be applying for Social Security benefits in the coming months, this entire discussion has been incredibly educational! I can't imagine how alarming it must have been to receive that suspicious email so soon after submitting your application, Landon. The timing really would make anyone panic. What I find most valuable about this thread is how it shows the importance of community knowledge-sharing. Between the experienced members explaining the red flags and Melissa from the actual SSA office confirming the official protocols, I now feel much better prepared to handle these situations if they arise. The key takeaways I'm noting are: never click links in emails claiming to be from SSA, always go directly to ssa.gov, look for formal language and @ssa.gov addresses, and remember that legitimate communications come through the message center. It's unfortunate that scammers target people during such important life transitions, but knowing what to expect makes all the difference. Thank you to everyone who contributed their experiences and expertise - this is exactly why communities like this are so valuable!

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Welcome to the community, Amara! I'm also fairly new here and this thread has been such an incredible resource. What strikes me most is how these scammers seem to specifically prey on people during major life transitions when we're already feeling anxious and vulnerable. The fact that Landon received that phishing email just hours after applying really shows how these criminals try to exploit our heightened emotional state. I'm particularly grateful for all the specific red flags everyone has identified - the exclamation points, urgent language, suspicious timing, and fake domains. Having Melissa from the actual SSA office confirm the official protocols gives me so much confidence about how to handle these situations. The advice about always typing ssa.gov directly instead of clicking any email links is something I definitely wouldn't have thought of on my own. It's reassuring to know that there are experienced community members here who are willing to share their knowledge and help newcomers like us navigate these challenges safely. This discussion should honestly be pinned as essential reading for anyone approaching retirement!

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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this worry. The financial gap between ages 55-60 is unfortunately very real and affects many widows. Here are a few additional things to consider while you're planning: 1. Look into whether you'd be eligible for any spousal benefits on your own work record before age 60 - even if you haven't worked recently, you might have enough credits from earlier employment. 2. Consider whether it makes sense for your husband to delay his Social Security to increase the survivor benefit you'd eventually receive (though this is complex and depends on your ages and health). 3. Some employers offer survivor benefits through pension plans that might kick in earlier than Social Security. The life insurance suggestion others mentioned is crucial - term life insurance specifically for this 5-year gap period might be more affordable than permanent coverage. You're being smart to think about this now rather than after it's too late to plan.

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This is really helpful information, thank you. I haven't worked in about 8 years, so I'm not sure if I have enough credits for my own benefits. How do I find out how many work credits I have? And regarding the life insurance - would a 5-year term policy be enough, or should we consider longer coverage? I'm trying to balance the costs with our current budget since we're living on just his Social Security right now.

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You can check your work credits by creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov - it will show your complete earnings history and how many credits you've earned. You need 40 credits (about 10 years of work) for retirement benefits, but you might qualify for spousal benefits on your husband's record even with fewer credits. For life insurance, a 5-year term policy could work if you're confident about the survivor benefit timing, but consider a 10-year term instead - it's usually not much more expensive and gives you a buffer in case you decide to delay claiming survivor benefits until your full retirement age for the higher amount. Given that you're living on just his Social Security now, even a modest term policy (maybe $100-200k) could make a huge difference during that gap period.

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I've been helping people navigate Social Security for over 20 years, and your concern is completely valid. The 55-60 gap is one of the harshest aspects of the survivor benefit system. A few things to add to the excellent advice already given: 1. **File immediately when the time comes** - Even though you can't get benefits until 60, you should still report your husband's death to SSA right away to get that $255 lump sum and establish your case in their system. 2. **Consider working part-time** - If you do end up needing income during that gap period, even part-time work could help you earn additional Social Security credits for your own future benefits. 3. **Don't overlook COBRA** - If your husband has employer health insurance, you may be able to continue coverage through COBRA, which could be crucial during those gap years. 4. **State programs vary widely** - Some states have emergency assistance programs for widows. Contact your local Department of Social Services to ask about any state-specific programs. The system isn't perfect, but planning ahead like you're doing puts you in a much better position than most people who face this situation unexpectedly. Document everything and keep good records - it will help when you do apply for benefits.

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This is incredibly helpful and thorough information - thank you so much for taking the time to share your expertise. I hadn't thought about COBRA or the importance of filing immediately even if I can't get benefits right away. The part about working part-time is interesting too - I've been out of the workforce for so long that it feels daunting, but maybe it would be good for both financial and personal reasons. Do you know roughly how many work credits I could earn per year with part-time work? And is there a minimum amount I'd need to earn for it to count toward Social Security credits?

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You can earn up to 4 Social Security credits per year, which is the maximum. In 2024, you earn 1 credit for every $1,730 in covered earnings, so you'd need $6,920 in annual earnings to get all 4 credits. That's very achievable with part-time work - even working 15-20 hours per week at minimum wage would likely get you there. The great thing about going back to work, even part-time, is that it can actually increase your future Social Security benefits if your recent earnings are higher than some of your earlier working years. Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings, so new work could potentially replace lower-earning years from decades ago. Plus, many employers offer benefits even to part-time workers these days - things like retirement plan access, health insurance subsidies, or employee assistance programs that could help during your transition period. Starting to think about this now gives you time to explore what kind of work might interest you and maybe even start building those credits before you need them. Even if it's just seasonal or very part-time work, every little bit helps both financially and for your own sense of security and independence.

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