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Update us when you get the letter! I'm curious whether this was related to any cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) that might have been applied retroactively, or if there was some kind of earnings record correction. The timing with your son's age-out from benefits makes me think this is legitimate.

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I'll definitely update once I know more! The letter came today actually - it was for my son. Apparently there was an earnings record correction on my late husband's account which increased the PIA, and that meant my son should have been getting higher payments all along. Since he just aged out of eligibility, they calculated the total underpayment and sent it as a lump sum. Mystery solved! Now I'll help him set up a meeting with a financial advisor before he gets too excited about this unexpected windfall.

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That's fantastic news! I'm so glad it worked out and was legitimate. Smart move on the financial advisor - $18K is a great head start for a young person if managed well. Thanks for following up with the resolution - this kind of update really helps other community members who might face similar situations!

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Congratulations on getting this resolved! This is exactly why the SSA community here is so valuable - your experience will help so many other parents who might face similar unexpected payments. The earnings record correction scenario you described is actually pretty common when there are updates to deceased worker records, but SSA's communication about it is often delayed or unclear. Really glad you're getting your son set up with financial planning too - that's excellent parenting right there!

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That's a good point about the 35-year calculation. For anyone unfamiliar, Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings (indexed for inflation) to calculate benefits. Years with no earnings count as zeros in this calculation. This is why the spousal benefit is particularly important for those who spent time out of the workforce or had lower earnings for significant periods.

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As someone who just went through this process with my parents last year, I can confirm the system does automatically calculate both benefits and gives the higher amount. However, I'd strongly recommend setting up a my Social Security account online if your wife hasn't already - this lets you track the application status and see exactly what benefits are being calculated. The processing can take 2-3 months to get the full amount right, so having online access helps you monitor what's happening rather than waiting and wondering. Also, definitely ask about those retroactive benefits when she applies - at 70, the 6 months of backpay is usually worth more than the small reduction in monthly benefits.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation with my mom who's considering applying soon. The online account suggestion is great - I helped my dad set his up and it made tracking everything so much easier than trying to call. Quick question though - when you mention the 2-3 months to get the full amount right, did your parents get any kind of notification when the adjustment was made, or did you just notice it in the online account? I want to know what to watch for so we don't miss anything.

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Congratulations on making a well-informed decision! Your situation really highlights how important it is to look at the whole picture rather than just the monthly benefit amounts. The earnings test can be such a trap for people who are still working - I've seen too many folks get surprised by those overpayment letters. Since you're waiting until June, you might want to start gathering your documents now so you're ready to apply right when you hit FRA. Having your tax returns, W-2s, and other paperwork organized ahead of time will make the process smoother. And definitely keep that Claimyr tip in mind when you're ready to call - dealing with SSA phone lines is nobody's favorite activity! Four months will fly by, and then you'll have that peace of mind knowing you're getting your full benefit without any earnings test headaches. Good luck with those home repairs when the time comes!

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Great advice about getting documents ready early! I hadn't thought about that but it makes total sense to be prepared. I'll start gathering everything now so I'm not scrambling in June. And yes, definitely keeping that Claimyr tip bookmarked - anything to avoid those endless hold times with SSA! Thanks for the encouragement about the decision too. It feels good to have a plan that makes financial sense and reduces stress.

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Welcome to the community, Maya! You've gotten some excellent advice here. I went through a very similar decision process last year and also chose to wait until FRA - best financial decision I made. One additional tip: since you're planning to wait until June, consider setting up a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you haven't already. You can verify your earnings record is accurate and get updated benefit estimates. Sometimes there are errors in their records that can affect your benefit amount, and it's much easier to correct them before you apply. Also, don't forget that once you reach FRA, you can earn as much as you want without any benefit reduction - so if you decide to pick up extra hours or take on additional work after June, it won't affect your Social Security at all. That flexibility alone is worth the wait!

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That's such a great point about setting up the online account! I actually haven't done that yet but will definitely do it this week. I'm a bit paranoid about errors in records after hearing horror stories from friends. Better to catch any issues now rather than when I'm trying to apply. And you're absolutely right about the flexibility after FRA - knowing I can potentially increase my work hours without penalties is really appealing. Thanks for the warm welcome and practical advice!

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This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone new to Social Security benefits, I had no idea about the difference between the "cash receipt principle" for retirement benefits versus the "when earned" rule for disability benefits. Reading everyone's experiences really highlights how confusing these rules can be, especially when different SSA representatives give conflicting information. What strikes me most is how the timing of reaching FRA in the same year can actually work in your favor with the monthly earnings test versus the annual test. It seems like this is a detail that should be more prominently explained when people first apply for early retirement benefits. The community knowledge here is fantastic - you all understand these nuances better than some of the official representatives! I'm bookmarking this discussion for future reference since I'm sure I'll have more questions as I navigate this system.

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I completely agree! As someone who just went through this confusing process myself, I can't emphasize enough how valuable this community discussion has been. The distinction between retirement and disability benefit rules is something I never would have understood without everyone's explanations here. It's really eye-opening to learn about the "cash receipt principle" and how the monthly vs annual earnings test works in your FRA year. You're absolutely right that this information should be much more clearly communicated upfront - it would save so many people from the stress and confusion that comes with getting conflicting answers from different representatives. I feel like I've learned more about these rules from this one thread than from multiple calls to SSA! Welcome to the community, and I hope your Social Security journey goes more smoothly than mine did initially.

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This thread has been a lifesaver! I'm in a similar situation where my company laid everyone off right before the holidays, but I didn't get my final paycheck until early January. I've been terrified about getting hit with an overpayment notice since I started collecting benefits early last year. Reading all these explanations about the "cash receipt principle" and how the monthly earnings test works in your FRA year has been incredibly enlightening. It's shocking how many different answers people get from SSA reps on the same issue! I'm reaching my FRA in April, so it sounds like I'll benefit from the monthly limit for the first few months of this year too. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences - this community clearly understands these rules better than many of the official representatives. I feel so much more confident about my situation now!

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Welcome to the community, Miguel! It's really reassuring to see how many people have been in similar situations with company closures and delayed final paychecks. Your timing with reaching FRA in April actually works out great - you'll have that higher monthly earnings limit for January through March, and then complete freedom from any earnings restrictions after April. It's incredible how this one thread has provided clearer explanations than multiple calls to SSA could! The "cash receipt principle" was completely new to me too, but it makes perfect sense once you understand it. I hope your situation works out as smoothly as it sounds like it will. This community has been such a valuable resource for navigating these confusing rules!

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For a DAC claim like this, I'd recommend applying in person if possible, or at least starting with a phone appointment. Explain clearly that you're applying for Disabled Adult Child benefits based on her parent's record. The online system doesn't handle these specialized cases as well. Bring every medical record you can find from when she was 20-22 to establish that the disability began before 22. School records showing she had to drop out or accommodate her condition can help too. If her parents are both receiving Social Security, she could potentially file on either record - usually the higher earner's record would be best. This could be life-changing for her - both monthly income AND Medicare coverage regardless of her age after 24 months of benefits.

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Thank you so much. We'll definitely pursue this option. I can't believe no one ever mentioned this possibility to us before. I'm actually feeling hopeful that we might be able to get her some help after all these years.

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I'm so glad you found this community and asked this question! As someone who's been through the Social Security maze myself, I can tell you that what everyone is saying about the Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits is absolutely spot-on. The fact that your sister's disability started at age 20 and her parents are receiving Social Security makes this a very promising situation. Don't let the years of discouragement stop you now - I've seen so many people miss out on benefits they were entitled to simply because they were given incorrect information early on. One thing I'd add: when you go to apply, be very specific about requesting DAC benefits and emphasize that her disability began before age 22. Sometimes the intake staff aren't familiar with all the nuances of these programs. If you get pushback or confusion, ask to speak with a supervisor or disability specialist. Also, keep in mind that if approved, there might be some retroactive benefits available too, which could provide a significant lump sum. Don't give up if you get an initial denial - the appeals process exists for a reason and many deserving cases get approved on appeal. Wishing you and your sister the best of luck with this process!

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This is such valuable advice, thank you! I'm new to navigating all of this but reading through everyone's responses has been incredibly eye-opening. The DAC benefits option seems like it could really be a game-changer for my sister's situation. I'm definitely going to help her gather all the medical documentation from when she was 20 and make sure we specifically ask about DAC benefits when we apply. It's honestly shocking that after 40 years of being told she had no options, there might actually be help available. I really appreciate this community for sharing their knowledge and experiences - it's given us hope when we thought there wasn't any.

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