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Will Social Security delayed retirement credits for 2024 apply if I file in December for age 70 benefits?

I'm turning 70 in January 2025 and planning to finally claim my retirement benefits at that point. I've been delaying past FRA for the 8% annual delayed retirement credits, but I'm confused about exactly WHEN to file to get full credit for 2024. If I apply in December 2024 for benefits to start in January 2025, will I still receive the full delayed retirement credits for all of 2024? Or do I need to wait until January 2025 to apply to make sure I get credited for the final 2024 DRCs? My financial advisor mentioned something about SSA not giving me the final DRCs until later if I file in December, but that doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't all the DRCs through my 70th birthday be included automatically? I'm worried about losing out on hard-earned benefit increases just by filing at the wrong time.

One more thing i learned the hard way - make sure you specificlly tell them you want your benefits to START in January. Don't just say you're applying for benefts AT age 70. If your birthday is in Jan. but you file in Dec. be VERY CLEAR about this!!!

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As someone who just went through this process myself (turned 70 last month), I can confirm what others have said about the timing. I applied in November for December benefits and received my full DRCs, though it took about 2 months for the final adjustment to show up correctly. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned - when you apply online or at the office, there's actually a specific question asking what month you want your benefits to BEGIN. Make sure you select January 2025, not December 2024. This prevents any confusion about whether you're trying to claim benefits before your 70th birthday. Also, keep copies of everything and take screenshots of your online application if you file that way. Having documentation makes it much easier to resolve any issues if they come up later.

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Social Security earnings limit question - filing after FRA in same year but still working

My husband will reach his Full Retirement Age (FRA) in October this year. He's working at a job where his income is well above the $59,000 yearly earnings limit. We're trying to figure out if he can receive his FULL benefit amount if he waits to file for Social Security in November or December (after reaching FRA), even though he plans to continue working until the end of March next year. I know the earnings limit goes away once you reach FRA, but I'm confused about whether it affects benefits when you file after FRA but are still in the same calendar year. Will he face any benefit reductions because of his high earnings earlier in the year before he reached FRA? Or does filing after FRA mean he's completely free from the earnings test? We're trying to maximize his benefit while working our retirement transition plan. Thanks for any clarification!

Just to add one more piece of advice - since your husband will be retiring at the end of March next year, you might want to create a my Social Security account online (if you haven't already) to make the application process smoother when the time comes. Also, make sure to apply for benefits about 2-3 months before he wants them to start. While he can apply right after reaching FRA in October for November benefits, giving SSA a little extra processing time is always smart. And remember that even though the earnings test won't apply, his benefits might still be subject to federal income tax if your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. Up to 85% of Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your overall income.

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Thank you! We do have the my Social Security accounts already set up, and we've been checking his estimated benefit amounts there. Good point about applying early - we'll start the process in September then for November benefits. And yes, we're working with our tax advisor on how the benefits will affect our overall tax situation. Really appreciate the help!

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact scenario two years ago! I reached my FRA in September and filed for benefits in November while still working full-time. Got my full benefit amount with zero issues. The key thing to remember is that Social Security looks at this on a month-by-month basis once you reach FRA, not annually. So even though your husband's total 2025 earnings will be high, SSA only cares about what he earned in the months before reaching FRA in October. One small tip - when he does apply, have his recent pay stubs ready. Sometimes they ask for documentation to verify current employment status, and having everything organized can speed up the process. The whole thing was much smoother than I expected!

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Does Social Security count pension and deferred comp as income for earnings limit? Plus ex-spouse survivor benefit confusion

I'm planning to start collecting SS at 62 (in 2025) but I'm totally confused about the earnings limit between 62-67. I know I can't earn more than about $25,000 per year without SS reducing my benefits, but I'm unclear what counts toward this limit. Specifically, do these count as "earnings"? - My government pension (I paid into FICA/Medicare throughout my career) - My deferred comp annuity payments - Potential survivor benefits from my ex-husband I'm guessing pension and SS are counted as income for Medicare premium calculations, but not for the earnings limit? But what about the deferred comp distributions? Also dealing with a frustrating situation regarding my ex. We were married 19 years, have two children, and I never remarried. He was receiving SSDI before he passed away in 2012, and our kids collected some benefits on his record. Now I'm trying to get information about potential survivor benefits, but SSA is demanding his death certificate. I paid $27 for a certified copy from New Jersey, but they DENIED me saying I'm not eligible for a copy! How am I supposed to prove his death to SSA? Shouldn't they already have this information since he was receiving benefits when he died? This is so frustrating!

Daniel, I'm sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! The good news is that multiple people have confirmed your pension and deferred comp won't count against the earnings limit - that's a huge relief for your planning. Regarding the death certificate issue, I had a similar problem when my father passed. What worked for me was requesting to speak specifically with a "Claims Development Representative" rather than a general customer service rep. These specialists have access to more detailed records and can often verify death information without requiring additional documentation, especially since your ex was already receiving benefits when he passed. For the survivor benefits decision, you might want to consider this strategy: if you're eligible for survivor benefits (which sounds likely given your 19-year marriage), you could potentially take reduced survivor benefits starting at age 60 while letting your own retirement benefit grow with delayed retirement credits until age 70. This could maximize your lifetime benefits depending on which amount is higher. I'd definitely recommend getting estimates for both scenarios before making your decision. The February appointment wait is outrageous - definitely try some of the workarounds others have suggested!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this bureaucratic nightmare! The death certificate situation is particularly frustrating when SSA clearly already has this information in their system. A few suggestions that might help: 1. **For the death certificate issue**: Since your children received benefits on his record after his death, SSA definitely has his death recorded. When you call back, specifically ask to speak with a "Technical Expert" or "Claims Specialist" and mention that his death was already established for your children's survivor benefits. Reference those benefit payments as proof they have the death information. 2. **Congressional assistance**: This is exactly the type of federal agency issue that Congressional offices are equipped to handle. Contact your Representative's or Senator's constituent services - they can often cut through red tape that would take you months to resolve. 3. **Survivor benefit timing**: You have some valuable options here. Since you can take survivor benefits as early as 60 (though reduced), you might be able to claim those while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70 with delayed retirement credits. The optimal strategy depends on the relative amounts. 4. **Getting through to SSA**: Try calling right when they open (8 AM local time) or during lunch hours when call volume might be lower. The Claimyr service others mentioned could also save you hours of frustration. The earnings limit clarification is great news for your planning - having that pension and deferred comp income without it affecting your Social Security makes retirement much more feasible!

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about mentioning my children's survivor benefits when I call back - that's concrete proof that SSA already processed his death years ago. I can't believe I didn't think to reference that earlier. The Congressional route sounds promising too. I've never contacted my Representative's office before, but this seems like exactly the kind of federal agency runaround they're meant to help with. At this point I'm willing to try anything to avoid that February appointment date. Your point about calling at 8 AM or during lunch is smart - I've been calling mid-morning when everyone else probably is too. I'll try the early morning approach tomorrow and specifically ask for a Technical Expert or Claims Specialist rather than general customer service. Thanks for taking the time to write such a comprehensive response. It's reassuring to know there are actually multiple paths forward here!

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Social Security FRA in January 2026 - when exactly can my husband stop working?

I'm really confused about the rules for my husband's retirement timing. His Full Retirement Age (FRA) starts in January 2026, and his birthday is March 11. We're trying to plan his retirement precisely and can't figure out if he needs to work until the end of January, just until January 11th, or if he can actually stop working on December 31st this year? The SSA website is so vague about this! Does anyone know the exact last day he needs to work to get his full benefits starting in January? We've been planning this for years and don't want to mess it up in the final stretch. Thanks for any insights!

To summarize for you and make sure everything's clear: 1) Your husband can stop working anytime - tomorrow, next year, or 5 years from now. His stop-work date has no direct connection to his FRA. 2) He reaches FRA in January 2026, meaning he can file for 100% of his benefit at that time. 3) If he wants benefits to begin in January 2026, he should apply around October 2025. 4) If he works in 2026 after starting benefits, there's no earnings limit since he'll be at FRA. Is this timeline making sense now?

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Yes! This makes perfect sense now. We've been stressing about his exact stop-work date when it really didn't matter. This gives us so much more flexibility in our retirement planning. Thank you all for the clear explanations!

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I went through this exact same confusion with my own retirement planning! One additional tip that might help: if your husband has been a high earner in recent years, it's worth checking if working those final months in 2025 would actually increase his Social Security benefit amount. The SSA calculates benefits based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so sometimes those last few months of work can bump up your average if you're earning more now than in earlier years. You can create an account on ssa.gov to see his earnings record and estimated benefits. But as everyone else has said, he's absolutely free to stop working December 31st, 2025 (or earlier) and still get full benefits starting January 2026!

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That's a great point about checking the earnings record! I hadn't thought about whether those final months of work would actually boost his benefit amount. He's been earning more in recent years than he did in his twenties and thirties, so it might be worth running the numbers. Thanks for mentioning the ssa.gov account - I'll have him set that up so we can see his full earnings history and projected benefits. It's nice to know we have options and don't have to stress about the exact timing!

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Will Social Security application in January be processed in time for April benefit after March FRA?

I finally hit my full retirement age (FRA) in March 2025 and I've been planning to start benefits the following month. I called SSA today and the earliest phone appointment they could give me was January 10th. I'm getting worried this won't leave enough time for processing before April. Has anyone applied 2-3 months before their FRA and still gotten their first check on time? Or should I be prepared for delays? Really hoping to avoid a gap in income since I've already told my employer my retirement date is firm.

My sister applied for her SS retirement last year and she said they asked her a bunch of questions about whether she ever had a different SSN or if she'd ever used another name that wasn't from marriage. Just something else to be prepared for! Also they wanted to know about any pensions from jobs that didn't pay into Social Security (for WEP calculation I guess).

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Thanks for the heads up! I've only ever had one SSN but I did have a different name before I was married. And I didn't realize they'd ask about pensions - I have a small one from a county job I had for 5 years. I should find that paperwork too.

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I'm new here but wanted to share my recent experience since it might help! I just went through this exact process last month - had my phone appointment in early October for December benefits after my November FRA. The timing worked out perfectly and I received my first payment right on schedule in January. A couple of things that really helped me: I created a simple checklist of all my documents beforehand and had them spread out on my desk during the call. Also, when they asked about my desired start date, I was very clear that I wanted benefits to begin the month AFTER my FRA to get the full amount. The representative was really helpful and walked me through everything step by step. Your January 10th appointment should give you plenty of time for April benefits. Good luck with your retirement!

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