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I just turned 67 (my FRA) last month but I'm planning to keep working for another 2-3 years before actually claiming my SS benefits. My HR department is telling me conflicting things about whether the FICA deductions from my paycheck will continue. One person said that once I hit FRA, I can opt out of the Social Security tax deductions even if I'm still working and not collecting. Another said I have to keep paying as long as I'm working regardless of age. I'm confused! Does anyone know the correct answer? I'd appreciate not having those deductions if possible since I'm trying to build up my retirement savings in these final working years.
I'm turning 67 soon and trying to figure out my spousal benefit situation. My husband is 70 and just started collecting his delayed retirement benefits. We've been getting conflicting information from SSA representatives and I'm completely lost. Here's our situation: My husband's FRA benefit (at 67) was $4,540, but he delayed until 70 so now gets about $5,625. My own benefit at FRA would have been $975, but I started claiming early at 62, so I'm only getting $687 monthly now. I thought that when I reached my FRA of 67, I could switch to a spousal benefit that would be 50% of my husband's FRA amount ($2,270), but reduced because I claimed my own benefits early. But when I called SSA, one rep said my spousal benefit won't be reduced at all and would be half of what my husband gets at 70 (which I'm pretty sure is incorrect). Another rep refused to give me any numbers and said I'd have to apply first. Can anyone help me understand what my spousal benefit will actually be when I turn 67? And is there a way to get a definitive answer from SSA before I apply? This whole process is so frustrating!
One suggestion I want to make: request an appointment with a Claims Specialist at your local office rather than trying to resolve this by phone. Bring your husband with you if possible, as they may need information from both records. In-person appointments often result in more thorough explanations and accurate calculations since they can show you the numbers directly on their system. And make sure to ask them to provide you with a breakdown of the calculation in writing. This will be valuable for your records and for verifying that everything was done correctly.
I went through this exact same scenario with my parents a few years ago. The key thing to remember is that spousal benefits have a "deemed filing" rule that applies when you've already claimed your own retirement benefits early. Since you took your retirement at 62, when you apply for spousal benefits at your FRA, SSA will calculate what's called an "excess spousal benefit" - basically the difference between 50% of your husband's PIA ($2,270) and your own PIA ($975), which would be $1,295. But this excess amount gets reduced because you filed early. The reduction is roughly 25/36 of 1% for each of the first 36 months early, then 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. Since you filed 60 months early, your excess spousal benefit will be reduced by about 30%. So your total benefit would be approximately your current $687 plus an excess spousal benefit of around $906 (the $1,295 reduced by 30%), giving you a total of about $1,593 per month. This is significantly less than the $2,057 some others estimated, but the deemed filing rules are what make the difference. Definitely get this calculated properly by SSA, but this should give you a more realistic expectation.
Hi everyone! I've been researching SS benefits for months and am still confused about my options. I'll be turning 62 this December and thinking about retirement. My wife (we've been married 40+ years) has been receiving SSDI for the past 5 years due to a chronic health condition. She won't turn 62 until April 2025. I'm trying to maximize our household benefits and wondering: Can I claim half of her SSDI benefit when I turn 62 but delay claiming my own retirement benefits until I'm 70 to get the maximum amount? Has anyone successfully done this type of strategy? I'm getting conflicting information about whether spousal benefits work with SSDI the same way they do with regular retirement benefits.
Thank you all so much for the helpful responses! Based on everything here, I think my best option is to: 1. Get the exact benefit amounts for both of us 2. Use that Claimyr service to actually speak with someone at SSA about our specific situation 3. Probably delay taking any benefits until at least my FRA (67) if not 70, since my benefit would be significantly higher than any spousal benefit I'm disappointed that I can't use the strategy I was hoping for, but I'm glad I asked before making a mistake! This forum has been so much more helpful than the confusing SSA website.
Just wanted to add one more consideration that I don't see mentioned yet - make sure to factor in taxes when you're doing your calculations! SSDI benefits can be taxable depending on your total household income, and so can retirement benefits. Since you're still working and presumably have other income sources, taking benefits early could push you into a higher tax bracket or make more of your benefits taxable. A tax professional who specializes in retirement planning might be worth consulting before you make your final decision. Also, if you do decide to wait until 70, remember that you MUST start taking benefits by April 1st of the year after you turn 70 - there's no advantage to waiting beyond that point, and you could actually lose benefits if you delay too long.
I just sold my small landscaping business this April and am officially retiring. The problem is my 2024 income will be MUCH higher than normal because of all the depreciation recapture on equipment and vehicles (about $92,000 on top of my regular income). I'm planning to apply for Social Security retirement in August when I turn 62, but I'm worried this one-time income spike will permanently reduce my monthly benefit amount. Will the SSA use my abnormally high 2024 income to calculate my benefits? Should I delay applying until 2025 when my income will be much lower? I've worked 40+ years and don't want to lose benefits because of this one unusual year.
Thanks everyone for the helpful advice! Based on what I've learned, I think I'll wait until January 2025 to apply rather than dealing with all the withholding complications this year. I'll use Claimyr to get through to an SSA representative to confirm this plan makes sense for my specific situation. Really appreciate all the insights about how the earnings test works vs. the benefit calculation!
Congratulations on your retirement! Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant to your situation. Since you mentioned depreciation recapture of about $92,000, make sure your tax preparer properly categorizes this on your return. While depreciation recapture is generally treated as capital gains (which doesn't count toward the earnings test), there can be some nuances depending on how your business was structured and whether any portion might be considered ordinary income. Also, when you do apply in January 2025, make sure to have all your 2024 tax documents ready. The SSA will want to see your final W-2 and tax return to verify your actual earned income for the earnings test calculation. Since you're planning to use Claimyr to speak with an agent, you might also ask them about the special monthly earnings test that can sometimes apply in your first year of retirement - it might provide some additional flexibility if your circumstances change. Good luck with your retirement planning!
I'm turning 65 next month and planned to retire January 2025, but I'm stuck in this frustrating limbo with SSA! As a widow, I need to know EXACTLY what my late husband's survivor benefit amount would be if I take my own retirement now and then switch to his higher amount at my FRA. I've called SSA three times and they keep saying 'we can't tell you the specific amount over the phone' and that they'd mail me the information. It's been over 5 weeks and NOTHING in my mailbox! How am I supposed to make an informed decision about my filing strategy without knowing the numbers?? At this rate, I'll have to delay my retirement because I can't risk making the wrong move financially. Has anyone else had trouble getting benefit amount information as a widow? Is there some special form I need to file? I'm beyond frustrated with this system!
I'm dealing with a similar situation as a newcomer to all this! My husband passed away 2 years ago and I'm approaching retirement age myself. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the BRIEF report or that Congressional representatives could help expedite requests. One thing I learned from a financial advisor is that if you're really stuck on timing, you might want to consider filing a protective application. This essentially holds your place in line for benefits while you're still gathering information. You can withdraw it later if needed, but it protects your filing date. Not sure if this applies to your specific situation, but might be worth asking about when you do get through to someone at SSA. The whole system really does seem designed to make us give up! But don't let them wear you down - you deserve to have all the information you need to make the best decision for your financial future.
Peyton Clarke
As someone who recently went through this exact situation, I can confirm what others have said - FICA taxes are mandatory as long as you're working, regardless of age. I hit my FRA at 66 and 8 months and kept working until 69, and every single paycheck had those deductions. It's frustrating at first, but I found it helpful to think of it as an investment rather than a tax loss. Those extra high-earning years at the end of my career significantly boosted my monthly benefit calculation. When I finally claimed, my benefit was about $380 higher per month than it would have been if I had stopped working at FRA. Over the course of retirement, that more than makes up for the FICA taxes I paid during those extra working years. Your HR department really should get their facts straight on this - it's causing unnecessary confusion for employees planning their retirement.
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Carmen Flores
I went through something similar when I reached my FRA two years ago. My company's benefits administrator initially told me the same wrong information about being able to opt out of FICA taxes. What I discovered is that many HR departments aren't well-trained on Social Security rules because they don't deal with these questions very often. I ended up printing out the official SSA publication on this topic and sharing it with HR so they could give accurate information to other employees approaching retirement age. The bottom line everyone has mentioned is correct - FICA taxes are mandatory as long as you're earning wages, period. But like others have said, those continued contributions during your highest earning years will likely increase your eventual benefit. I'd recommend getting your official Social Security statement from ssa.gov to see your projected benefits at different claiming ages - it really helps with planning!
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